He was...until this movie. As far as appearance goes he's probably one, if not the most intimidating-looking Jedi. Here's something kind of outlining his character.Quote:
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He was...until this movie. As far as appearance goes he's probably one, if not the most intimidating-looking Jedi. Here's something kind of outlining his character.Quote:
Originally Posted by PiotrRasputin
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Originally Posted by IronPlant
I don't get it. You go from saying that this guy shows how the Star Wars movies aren't supposed to just be older sci-fi series and then link to a site which sets up continual demonstrations of how Star Wars has similarities to older sci-fi series.Quote:Wait, what? Are you agreeing with all three of them or just Cow and Mzo in response to cka or what? Because cka's talking about how we're responding to the current ones while Cow and Mzo are saying how the originals are pulpy old-school but the current ones just aren't very good. There's two trains of thought going on there, which one are you agreeing with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Despair
In any case, I totally agree with Mzo as I've posted before what he said.It was similar with Pearl Harbor but only on a smaller scale because there weren't as many people that cared in the first place. Maybe it has something to do with that RotS is a movie the ENTIRE INTERNET wanted to see and it's filled with wooden acting, shitty dialogue, and overuse of special effects.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
I liked the lightsabers.
Mzo is good at expressing my feelings without going on for pages.
The CG shit totally robs the movie of soul, he's right.
Anyway as for what Dole was saying, yeah the movie seemed REALLY long the second time. Boring.
But I have to say... the first five minutes of the movie or whatever are great. The sequence following the two ships as they flew through the battle reminded me of Star Fox SNES/64. God...if any on-rails shooter looked that amazing I'd be creaming myself. You know, up until the buzzbots. Passing that cannon and stuff was all great.
I was agreeing with Mzo and Cow in response to cka post.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Thats what I said before Mzo post. It lacked SoulQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I take it you missed the part where he was trying to continue what others had done before him? And you also missed the entire page about Jung and Joseph Campbell and the importance of myth in regards to human culture, and how George KNEW this, was influenced by this, and tried to make a modern day version of this? Did you even read past the page about Flash Gordon, or did your mind just melt when it got to the parts that start referencing literature from before the 1900s? Do you understand anything about the importance of literature and fiction or do you feel its only purpose is to tickle your ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
You either didn’t read through the site, are lack anything that approaches reading comprehension.
Star wars isn't JUST a continuation of scifi, but a continuation of literature and myth. It is a continuation of the myths and folk lore of old. Star Wars is meant to be our culture’s folklore.
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Originally Posted by Despair
Everyone does that. Uwe Boll does that. THAT'S THE ENTIRE BASIS FOR MOST FICTIONAL LITERATURE EVER RECORDED. If that's your reason for why the Star Wars movies are so much more than just recreating an old style then your idea of deep reading is probably McFarlane's Spawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
All you've said is that Lucas used the most well-known story design in the entire history of mankind that pulls its documented written roots from at the latest the epic poems of the Greeks. Don't think you're deep because you pulled up something that's taught in grade school.
Wow, you're really going off the deep end. I think it's time you step back and don't watch any Star Wars for a while. Star Wars is meant to be our culture's folklore? Settle down there, buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
WTF, how can you make that claim? You know jack shit about all those people. You have no idea why they make their movies. Most people make movies because they enjoy doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
GL on the other hand has made it well known that he wanted to make a story that would continue the tradition from the past started by other great works of fiction. This is known. He has said so in many interviews.
Trivializing the fact that he made these movies to make a modern day myth, does not make your claim any stronger. Discrediting the alternatives does not make your stance that his movies are little more than a continuation of pulp fiction from the past a better one. That kind of arguing is done by the lowest of people, like politicians.
You may feel that they are little better than pulp fiction, but it isn't what GL wanted them to be. To say they are is just about as bad as shitting on his face.
Bullshit. They do not teach any of that in grade school. Grade schoolers are taught nothing about Greek literature, or about anything that has to do with the history of literature. The read shit about ants getting stuck in gum, and baseball players who take ballet during the summer to keep their game up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Bite my ass you elitist bastard. Just because something is fictional, does not make it meaningless past entertaining you.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
It may fail at it, but GL wanted to make SW be like folklore, and so did Tolkien with his books.
The fact you make fun of me for commenting on this, more than shows that you know very little about any of this stuff.
It's a busy night at work so I apoligize if this has already been posted, but my brother read that one of the extra scenes digital theaters are being treated to is Qui Gon speaking with Yoda.
I just wanted to say Jetman made some good points in his post. Especially in Anakin's turn/subtlety. I too thought it was interesting that on Mustafar he was crying, you could see it months ago in the 2nd trailer. Glad Lucas kept that shot, at least shows Anakin isn't feeling 100% good about what he is doing.
And also, the Ep 3 Visual Dictionary which should be canon in most respects says that Yoda deserts the fight eventually because he isn't quite powerful enough "...possibly due to his spirit being broken by the deaths of so many Jedi." I also think if he hadn't gotten ambushed by the lightning he would have had just enough strength to hang in there. Plus, once the fight moved into the senate, Sids had all kinds of new props to manipulate.
Oh yeah, and I don't buy that Sidious knows how to keep people living. At least do not believe this all the way. For all we know, maybe he killed Plagueis for that very fact...his Master was holding back this very valuable power from him. And why does Vader kick his shoe at OB1's cloak in ANH? I have always thought to myself "Vader has gotta be thinking to himself 'How did he do that?" or "Why have I never been able to learn that?!" I predict that in the Episode 3 commentary Lucas will say something along the lines of that it's ironic Anakin joins Sid for this reason. But when he joins the dark side, then Qui Gon appears and tells Yoda about the disappearing trick which theoretically could have been taught to Anakin eventually allowing him to keep his loved ones safe...without killing everyone else. :rolleyes:
Your brother lied to you, I saw it in a digital theatre, and nothing of the sort happened.