Chrono Trigger

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Chrono Trigger had fantastic art

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Yes.

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fantastic music

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Yes.

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fun gameplay

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Yes.


[quote]interesting characters[quote]Yes.

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and a great story.

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No. Well, sorta. The story started out awesomely, but as the game went on and on the story took more and more of a backseat to everything else until it all but disappeared. Perhaps it kicked back in later in the game but I lost patience and stopped playing. I also don't usually care for RPGs where your character doesn't talk at all...kinda removes their personality and makes you less involved (though perhaps it helps some people imagine themselves in the character's place more easily, I dunno).

Well, at the time, it had the best plot twist ever... and I GUESS I'll spoiler it even though it's like 200 years old:

Crono dies.

BUT THEN, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT:

omg you can time travel and save him

That was amazing to me.

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Originally Posted by Zerodash

Back in June I tried out CT (PS release) figuring that I'd love the game to death. To this day, I cannot understand why people laud this game so highly.

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If you didn't play it at the time that it came out, when it was both the most visually stunning and all-encompassingly innovative game on the planet, then you already sacrificed about 50% of the game's inherent luster.

For me, it's a toss-up between FF6 and Chrono Trigger as my favorite games of all time.

Chrono Trigger is a game that I have beaten every year since it came out.

If you played it for the first time on the PS2, like 12 years after it came out, you had already played several games that drew a great deal of their influence from Squaresoft games after that. So of course it didn't seem like anything special to you. LOL, your bad.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Well, at the time, it had the best plot twist ever... and I GUESS I'll spoiler it even though it's like 200 years old:

Crono dies.

BUT THEN, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT:

omg you can time travel and save him

That was amazing to me.

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Hmm...that IS cool.

Trigger is still one of my all time favorites. As for a sequel i'd love to see cross completed, as in fleshed out stories for all the charecters. The game really felt unfinished to me and could have been easily a 5-6 disc game. Alot of speculation around the net implies its an unfinished work and given what we've seen i've love to see what Square could do with it given their current development abilities. Could easily be their biggest release since FF7 if they laid it out right.

But maybe my fanboi-ism is showing.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Well, at the time, it had the best plot twist ever... and I GUESS I'll spoiler it even though it's like 200 years old:

Crono dies.

BUT THEN, IF YOU DO IT RIGHT:

omg you can time travel and save him

That was amazing to me.

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Hmm...that IS cool. Maybe I'll dust off the ol' SNES cart. Hopefully my save game is still there after all this time...

CC is at LEAST the best RPG of its kind on Playstation. It's hard to compare to Chrono Trigger for me and a lot of people, mostly due to nostalgia probably, but it measures up pretty well. The music is amazing, some of the best ever in a game, and maybe even better than the first.

The in-game art is beautiful and pulled off a visual theme similar to FFX's much, much better imo, even if they were pre-rendered. The battle system is awesome too, and makes the other similar PSX Square RPG's systems look like trash in comparison.

And finally, I really dislike the FF7 character designer's art style usually (I forget his name), but I thought the characters ranged from great to decent, PLUS it has Luckydan (or Mojo, I guess).

As for the story, I still haven't finished the game (=X), but it was compelling enough for me. And frankly, if what it was lacking was a story on par with FFVIII or VII's I don't really care. I liked those games, but I don't exactly take the adolescents saving the world stories that seriously anyway (and hey, CC has plenty of that to go around anyway). Definitely the best RPG of its kind in my book.

Chrono Trigger > Chrono Cross

That much is certain. Cross wasn't as "personal" as Chrono Trigger was--you cared about Crono, Lucca, Magus, etc. What Cross did retain though was a fun combat system with combo attacks (there should of been more combinations, Suikoden beats it in this regard). The story got really convoluted and basically made Chrono Trigger's ending moot. I did enjoy the game overall and it is one of the better RPGs on the Playstation.

Chrono Cross > Chrono Trigger. Like, its not even close. Better art, battle system, and storyline. It ties into the original Trigger and expands upon it but doesnt undermine it. And it has some great WOAH revelations near the end.

People who bitch about the zillions of characters are really missing the point, theyre missing the forest for the trees. Only two characters in the game mattered, and they gave you the option of using all these other guys for, mainly, the battle system (which was amazing). If you dont like that, thats cool, but its hardly a problem with the game, as the two that mattered were well-fleshed out and did what they needed to do.

Cross was the last JRPG I beat and there's a reason for that, it makes everything else just look stupid and shitty.

As for more Chrono games... who needs 'em? I am fine with what we got.

I think CT was better than CC. I still liked CC a lot. It had cool characters, some were lame but it just was interesting to me. The story was neat and a good addition I thought to the Chrono Trigger fans. Chrono Trigger still was an awesome game and I liked it better than Chrono Cross, as I said.

I think they could do a nice Chrono Trigger sequel in 3-D but as it is always said, maybe it's best not to mess with things that are already great. If that's how you think then CT dies a great game but it could be a great series. At least I would think.

The whole Glenn in Chrono Cross being frog thing probably made me play the game more than I was going too. Just because it was interesting. I don't even remember the truth to this. Also weren't people saying the magic dude was Magus or something?