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Originally Posted by Dylan1CC

I seriously think the writers were trying to send a message to the swooner women on the 'net who always paint him in rose glasses when he said to Charlie with a very grim face "Because I'm not a good person, Charlie. I've never done a good thing in my life." I wasn't surprised he conned his old gf out of all that money but the flashback still made me mad to see how far he could sink.

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I think he ended the con the way he did so that she wouldn't totally hate him, and so that he could fess up to her but still take the money to appease his partner. I think, deep inside, Sawyer is a good person, but he's gotten so far into player the part of the conman that it is now hard for him to be anything but that. Plus, I'm sure there is a lot of true to the idea that he doesn't know how to deal with people at this point, and it's easier to have everybody hate you and not expect anything of you than to try to be friends and live up to the expectations that come with that.

What he did with the guns served two purposes: to get people to dislike him again, so that he could go back to being more of a loner, and to put Locke and especially Jack in their places. Jack and Locke have gotten more and more into the role of running things without asking the group their opinions, and it bugs the crap out of Sawyer. I'm sure it was also a power play in the way that he now has bargaining chip to play so that he isn't just expected to follow along with whatever plan is decided upon by Jack and Locke. Those two will now have to work with him if they want the guns back.

Sawyer wasn't the best guy in the world in season one, but almost nobody actually made an effort to treat him with any respect. And then in last night's episode, Jack is STILL just doing as he pleases and not trying to actually deal with Sawyer. Jack could have gone and talked to Sawyer like a man about the pills, and try to solve the problem that way, but he didn't. So while I don't agree with what Sawyer did, I understand why he did it.

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Sawyer wasn't the best guy in the world in season one, but almost nobody actually made an effort to treat him with any respect. And then in last night's episode, Jack is STILL just doing as he pleases and not trying to actually deal with Sawyer.

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Nope. Not even Hurley.

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So while I don't agree with what Sawyer did, I understand why he did it.

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I know what you're saying. I don't like the way Jack treats Sawyer overall. OTOH, shaving cream is one thing thing, but as a doctor, you can't blame him for being ticked off and wanting to lock horns with him when he keeps trying to hoard medication (or pretending just to mess with people). A doctor doesn't care about "con-man honor." Cuz there is no honor with Sawyer as we saw last night.

Everything you say makes perfect sense though and I agree. Jack has a temper and a control freak complex, as I said in my initial post it was good to see Sawyer take him down a notch.

i dislike james.. even more... i dont think his name is saywer anymore.. its james...

Cannot believe Sawyer would do that especially since he damn near died and would have if not for people dragging his ass around. They could easily torture his ass and get him to cough up the guns....Sayid is a specialist in torture! cmon now...lol. Is there any chance Ana IS one of the "others"? I just kinda got that notion watching this episode. I'm also glad Charlie made Locke look like an idiot. Locke and Jack were really starting to get on my nerves...Now just for some more Kate half nakes scenes...;)

I think there will be the inevitable "Oh nos! So-and-so was a mole all along! :eek: " But I don't think it is Ana based on her time with the kids, the fact she killed Goodwin and her flashbacks.

And while I don't buy into the theory that Vincent is some kind of spy, I sure am wondering if there is any significance as to why he seems to be the catalyst (this season) for one death (Shannon) and one attack (Sun) Lately he shows up before something bad happens. I wonder why he just nonchalantly walked past Sun as Charlie was creeping up on her, you'd think maybe a good dog would have given away someone skulking in the bushes. Then again, maybe I am just overreaching and Vincent is just one of those stupid, clueless dogs who isn't very alert.

This "one week new episode, one week repeat" shit is starting to piss me off. Was it this bad last year? I came in on the recap epsiode for Season 1, and then got caught up via the DVD set.

Yawn, another filler episode. As much happened in the preview they showed last week as all of this week. When the scenes from next week are the most interesting thing in the show you have a problem.

It's the first episode of a four episode story arc, according to the creators.

And I dunno, I liked the episode, except for the total cocktease of the counter finally reaching zero. Still pretty cool and ominous, but I thought maybe they'd actually let it happen this time.

Ya, I also thought it was a pretty good ep. When the timer reached zero, it was an animal and a bomb? hmm...Also, that guy that Said beat the crap out of....he is very convincing. But that look he gives Said at the end kinda tells ya that he really is one of the "others." Man, Sawyer is a fucker for crushing the frog...lol Can't believe he did that. It was funny as hell though, the scene were he was trying to sleep and was hella irritated by the frog's noises...LOL I can totally relate. I can't stand annoying, monotonous noises while I'm trying to sleep!

So, the blonde chick with the baby is gonna remember where the other's hideout is...pretty interesting...What else...Oh, lol...I thought it was funny how this episode was kinda pro-American military propaganda. Like any Iraqi soldiers were treated as kindly as Said..LOL and given like $800...HAHA Ya fucking right...

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Originally Posted by kevincal

I thought it was funny how this episode was kinda pro-American military propaganda. Like any Iraqi soldiers were treated as kindly as Said..LOL and given like $800...HAHA Ya fucking right...

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I don't think you understood what happened. The american army used Sayid to torture his own countrymen, they turned him into a monster. It wasn't pro-american at all, the tactics they portrayed violated the rules of war.