I have played all the ES games, but I simply couldn't enjoy exploring the wilderness. A lot of the areas looked the same and it made navigation hard. This is opposed to the Betrayal in -ara games which always felt good exploring. Is this a fault with the ES games or is it just me?
It's you.
There's only so much you can do to make forests, mountains and plains look varied.
Its you
Uhhhh AHEM...
*points two posts up*
i was agreeing with you :cry:
*sobs himself to sleep*
Honestly, I would spend around 4 hours a day just running through the ashlands, looking for trouble (doing it ASAP too, so I was in way over my head. Amulet of shadows = winner).
Experience exclusively from Morrowind: To take a wild guess I'd say it might be just learning so much ground at once. You're dropped into a world and unlike many games you've got the freedom to immediately head anywhere, it's not presented in any sort of small chunks that build up to larger chunks so that you know your surroundings before moving on to a larger area. That's a lot to learn, and when you're surrounded by trees and rocks as far as the eye can see, it's hard keeping a straight path to anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
I highly recommend constant usage of the map, but that's pretty obvious. Like any large wilderness, learning the layout takes time and memorization, I can still get lost just because ponds and mountains don't always give me the path I want. I'll end up in the totally wrong direction without realizing it because the nudging into different directions can be so subtle.
Which is exactly the problem I had when I first played. You *have* to stick to the task at hand, at least until you've built some skills up and got some decent equipment. After a few quests for your guilds of choice you are good to go explore where ever you wish, and you might make it back home afterwards. If you get excited and run off in a random direction first thing, trying to "Explore" you'll just explore yourself into a Daedra and a quick load from the last savepoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
If you're playing on the PC (and you're silly if you're not) get some mods; some make the game 100x better. I'm using fpsoptimizer (to increase view distance 2x), AdventurersTC (a total conversion combining some of the better mods and a higher level of difficulty without messing with the game storyline) and a few graphical enhancements. It's like a different playing experience.
i felt the same way about arena & daggerfall. morrowind fixed all that, what with the unique geographical features, signs & excellent map system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
That's not necessarily so; I've played characters who tossed out the imperial orders right off the bat and never even spoke to Caius. The enemies you fight are keyed to your level of experience, so unless you start running through Daedric ruins at level 2 you should be okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six
As for the exploration thing, try finding an item called the Boots of Blinding Speed (and the resist magicka you need to use them). That may increase your enjoyment of getting around one hundred-fold. Barring that, mixing racer plumes + trama root = your best friend.
Can't help with the "everything looks the same" part, though. There's a ton of geographical variance, especially if you have the expansions.
I know this is heresy, but I want to agree with the original poster.
I borrowed this game this previous summer, sat down with it for a few hours, and was sort of underwhelmed. I felt like I was playing Kings Field 2 again.
It hurt that I didn't have any documentation for this game, or much time ... but after sitting in the beginning town for an hour, than half-heartedly doing a quest ... I deleted the game and returned it to my friend.
(RPG guru status - 25)
Exploring is the only thing I liked about Morrowind. Go knows the combat was ass.
Same here. It's boring as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
...and worms kill me. WORMS!
Come on, this is like constantly running into the very first goomba in Super Mario Bros.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Morrowind has documentation? (I first borrowed it and then I got an OEM copy with a video card.)Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
Out of curiousity, if you never went anywhere how could you agree with the original poster? His complaint was about having trouble exploring the wilderness.Quote:
but after sitting in the beginning town for an hour, than half-heartedly doing a quest ... I deleted the game and returned it to my friend.
I recommend finding the attack button, because I've never been killed nor even severly wounded by a worm for any of the 10+ characters I've made for Morrowind.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Mech Deus admits to being lucky.
Downtown Cleveland is littered with amulets of +10 luck.
Also, my real name is X-X!V''Q.
I had trouble with worms because I play unarmed a low priority, so they were a little bit more difficult to kill at the start.
This is the truth, the "worm" which was a kwamma forager is really level up fodder, i can understand being killed by one first, before you learn the game mechanics. but never figuring out the mechanics enought to be able to hit the forager is kind of your fault, i could take it out with my high elf caster character at the start once i learned how the game was played, and she started patheticaly weak. One thing im happy about with oblivion is that they got rid of the "background rolling" and now if your weapon hits the baddie, it hits him, skill only applies to damage and maybe special move acquisition, So now people can finally quit complaining about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
The Elder Scrolls games are all insanely boring crap. There's nothing wrong with not enjoying it.
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
What the hell is up with the 25 character miniumum limit? That severely limits the believing of news.
I believe bbobb's news. Morrowind bored the hell out of me something fierce.
I don't know how I managed to put so many hundred hours into Morrowind, especially since I have such a short attention span.
The sad thing is, I never even finished the main storyline.
In as little as 4 hours you can have orcish arnour, a great deal of money, and great weaponry, all without doing a single quest.
if you think its slow paced you just must suck at it.
The only thing the King's Field series shares with Morrowind is the first-person perspective. King's Field is much more of an action RPG. You actually have to strafe around, dodge and time your attacks to interrupt whatever you're fighting. You aren't at the mercy of skill checks like you are in Morrowind. King's Field isn't quite as non-linear either, although you can take different paths to each goal and go back to places you've already been. I've always found the King's Field series much more compelling than the Elder Scrolls series, but I'm more of an action junkie than an RPG fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
so do i, morrowind caters to that mindset, get 50 quests, and then randomly find a cave to just waltz into, thats morrowind's mindset. and i love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tones
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The only thing the King's Field series shares with Morrowind is the first-person perspective. King's Field is much more of an action RPG.
Point taken.
I wish KF2 would have incorporated better story elements into it ... then I might have bothered to finish the game.
I think I lumped them together, because they are First-Person, Fantasy/RPG, large play area with alot of frustration because of the game mechanics. But thier frustrating elements are for different reasons.
It might be that there are hardly any FP-type games that has done melee combat correctly. I'm not a big First-Person type player ... so the above statement isn't in bold type.