The don't ask don't tell policy works the best. Emu/Piracy is not smiled apon here and we don't talk about it much.
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The don't ask don't tell policy works the best. Emu/Piracy is not smiled apon here and we don't talk about it much.
I don't care what you do. Do I think game piracy is wrong? Yes. Do I have a few DC...ahem... backups? Yes. Am I such an anal retentive collector that I will have to buy the originals of these games? Yes.
(For a while I was downloading Japanese games to try them out before I bought them. I am such the hax0r.)
Now to ask the question I always ask whenever this discussion happens.
If piracy is such a terrible thing, how about buying used?
Justify away...
What would buying games used have to do with piracy?
The act of buying a used game doesn't, in itself, give any money to the developers/publishers. The used game, however, at one point, was purchased retail.
Buying a used game is refunding to the seller some of the money used to purchase that game retail.
Publishers/developers also maintain control in a used game situation, since they're able to limit the number of copies produced.
Would you argue that stealing used cars is okay, since the car company that produced the car wouldn't have received any of the used car's value anyways if that used car was sold?
Except that stealing a used car actually deprives someone else of their property. If there was an illegal way to make a used car for free without stealing it from someone else, then yeah, I'd say that it would be Okay to do.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Would you argue that stealing used cars is okay, since the car company that produced the car wouldn't have received any of the used car's value anyways if that used car was sold?
What about depriving someone of the economic value of their game?
Say you own a game that people will pay $50 for used. Some people pirate that game.
If those people couldn't pirate the game, then the value of that used game would go up (more people would want it). You might be able to get $60 for it, instead of $50.
So, by pirating you're artificially lowering the value of games that should be worth more.
1) If that was true, you wouldn't be paying $150 for games that aren't rare, like Radiant Silvergun, and $500 for games that are rare, like some NeoGeo games and such.
2) I frankly couldn't give a shit about people who buy games because of their monetary value and not to play them. If you bought the game for the express purpose of reselling it for more money and pirates made it lose value, too bad. Get a job.
You answer this question in your next statement.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
What would buying games used have to do with piracy?
So was the pirated game. The data had to come from somewhere...Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
The act of buying a used game doesn't, in itself, give any money to the developers/publishers. The used game, however, at one point, was purchased retail.
Selling pirated games is refunding to the seller some of the money used to purchase that game retail.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Buying a used game is refunding to the seller some of the money used to purchase that game retail.
Yeah... and?Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Publishers/developers also maintain control in a used game situation, since they're able to limit the number of copies produced.
Nope, but buying used games still makes you no better that someone who downloads their games. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
Would you argue that stealing used cars is okay, since the car company that produced the car wouldn't have received any of the used car's value anyways if that used car was sold?
Yes, I buy used games.
No, I don't give a shit if you buy new, used or pirate. I am just pointing out the obvious.
Worth more to who? Resellers? Who gives a fuck?Quote:
Originally posted by Stone
What about depriving someone of the economic value of their game?
Say you own a game that people will pay $50 for used. Some people pirate that game.
If those people couldn't pirate the game, then the value of that used game would go up (more people would want it). You might be able to get $60 for it, instead of $50.
So, by pirating you're artificially lowering the value of games that should be worth more.
I dont see anything wrong with the piracy of games for dead systems.Personally , I see emulation as preservation.Hardly anyone would be able to play great games like radiant silvergun and rakugaki showtime if it werent for downloading the ISo's.I feel sorry for who ever spent half of his monthly wage on saphire or divine sealing($700 and worst game , ever!).
You might be harming the retailers.......but your definetely not harming the developers. I doubt that these retailers make much of a margin off old NES games anyways.These games are ussually sold alongside the mainstream lineup to foster brand loyalty for the retailers own shops.However , I am against the piracy of games for systems that are still alive such as the DC ,GBA ,Neo geo , ps2,Xbox or GCN as you are eating potential profits of the developers.
Its partly the developers own fault that people in poorer countries like brazil trade in bootlegs.The developers dont even consider them a market , and havent done a single thing for these markets.In fact they dont even care about piracy in these markets......its normal for Sony shops to sell bootleg playstation games.
i dont see the reason people feel they need to justify their actions to a message board. who really cares what people do behind closed doors.