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http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/
Oh. My. God.
It's been really tough not saying anything about this one for a few weeks now. :)
Impressive, though.
Got. Damn.
As a digital photographer who owns an iPod...
FUCK YES. Now I have an excuse to play with my iPod during my Publication classes, since my teacher might be getting one of these. I must convince her.
I want one so bad, and considering it's the same price as a non-color 40GB you might as well go with the iPod Photo.
I already have a 15 GB... I might sell it if I can scrounge up the other $300 for it (I know some people who would pay $200 for mine).
Oh. My. GOD.
iriver is still better, unless anyone knows a way to browse by directory on an ipod?
It's so magical to see the iPod in full color... it's like... euphoric...
It's so... Apple. I love Apple... I love them. I love Apple.
All I need is music on the go. This is still a nice idea, though.
Shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
You got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
p.s. owned.
Hmm.. you work for Apple or something? I've been waiting for this Ipod for awhile now. This is the reason why I held off on buying the 4G Ipods (was it 4 or 5 that had the click wheel?) because I knew a color screen would eventually arrive. I got a mini instead since 1,000 songs was enough for me to hit the gym.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
I have a 2G 20 gig, I'm a digital photographer, plus I want to upgrade my ipod.
And I'm still not buying this.
This is exactly the direction I wanted the ipod to go, it just didn't go far enough. I would have already ordered one yesterday if it had the one function I need: camera to ipod transfer. With the Photo ipod, you still need a slow, bulky 3rd party accessory to transfer pictures. I might as well take a 12-inch laptop into the field with me to dump my photos.
I was reading up on it, and that seemed to be the only qualm I came up with as well. It's nice that you can have your photo's WITH you, but I knew some people would want to transfer right after they took the photo's. I'm pretty sure Apple will address this eventually. Would you not need some type of special adapter, however?
Just plug the camera into the firewire port on the ipod, I assume.
WTF is up with everyone posting like old-school Box Drink lately? You should all rip the period key off your keyboards.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
What's so great about an ipod with a picture viewer?
Agreed. I don't get it. I don't really feel the urge to scroll through all my photos at the sime time I get the urge to listen to some music.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
I'm also not really big on forcing other people to look at stills from my boring life. Soon it seems I will be subject to this horror from many trendy bitches. This idea = thumbs down.
Why does this need to even be explained? You've never been put in a situation where you said "Oh, I have some photo's we took from x vacation" or "Let me show you the photo's I took while in L.A." or whatever. Bam. You can show them to all of your friends in a matter of seconds, without carrying around the actual photo's or your digitial camera. This is for people who want to show off their photos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Okay, what about the other 299,999,900 people in the United States?
Beats me. I guess it's an okay idea but I don't see why everyone is all OMG! about it. It might be useful as a portable archive (or at least it would if the screen wasn't so small) or something but...whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Besides, in 2 months Apple will probably release a model twice as good for 2/3 the price.
On a 2-inch screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
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Originally Posted by MVS
IBTN
Well people do it on a digital camera screen. Why not an iPod? I think it's about as useful as a camera phone, really, and those seem to be all the rage these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I only have a USB cable with my camera, that wouldn't work for me. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Lobo
I agree, the lack of connectivity between a digital camera straight to the ipod definitely hurts the Ipod Photo.
I concur. But I'm guessing it will still sell very nicely.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
I hate showing people pics on my digicam's screen. Better to print them out or upload them to my PC so they can actually see them.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
Like I said, if this thing had a bigger screen then maybe I'd think it was a good idea. It's just too small.
That's because people use them to sneak pics of underage girl's asses in the shopping mall.Quote:
I think it's about as useful as a camera phone, really, and those seem to be all the rage these days.
dont care about the picture viewer, but I like the 60gb HD and longer battery life.
Authorized Service Provider. iPod Photo has been showing up on parts lists for about two week now. Now, the iMac G5.. we were in the dark on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by SearchManX
I believe this works with iPhoto like it works with iTunes. The way to put the digital pictures from the camera/card onto it is with that 3rd party attachment. I could be wrong. I haven't looked at the specs page.
pictures don't impress me, wake me up when it plays movies. (prefferably more than just quicktime.)
You guys are losers. It's a photo album?
It'll be awesome for when you want to show people that cute little sweater you knitted for your shih'tzu, Fluffy.
60 GBs, 12 Hours Battery Life, iTunes and photo link, av output. I'm sold. Pictures don't make a huge difference but they are just staying competitive. Now people can't say "iPod doesn't even have photo support" , because you know some dick would.
It says "Enjoy 15 hours of continuous music."
I think they forgot to include the "Enjoy 45 minutes of picture viewing" statement.
Wake me up when they put a camera on it. I still won't be too impressed (unless its like 4-6 megapixels), but at least it'll have some sort of function.
I hate Mac zealots. You people eat anything that Apple throws at you. This new iPod isn't exactly revolutionizing anything. Its in color. And now you can transfer pictures on to it.
Whats so goddamn special?
*plays song "Jealousy" by Ghostface Killah*Quote:
Originally Posted by Stone
I detect a bit of haterism in your game, Stone.
Archos, IRiver and Samsung al have superior players out that play a variety of movie formats as well.
Ah screw that, I can do ALL of those on my PDDA and before someone decries the lack of HD on those, I have USB host and can add any portable drive I want.
Weak weak weak. Being excited about something like this is just inane consumerism. Get a photo wallet or something, or stop caring so much about photos.
The photo viewing and color screen mean nothing to me. A 60gb iPod, on the other hand, sounds pretty nice.
Not something I could afford to drop for, but I would like to rip my whole CD collection someday. Not necessary, I know, but it'd be nice to have. As it stands, I only had a 60gb hard drive in my Powerbook, so I don't think I'll be upgrading to one of these for quite a while. :p
I'll wait for these to show up on that freeipod.com thingy.
Archos AV400> Color Ipod.
http://www.archos.com/img/av400/icones.gif
Yeah, exactly, I mean the idea's all nice and everything, but I don't really see myself looking at pictures while I'm in public transport or in the mood to relax. It's a nice gimmick, but for the price it's already being targetted at, no way would I ever touch one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stone
I'm actually mad now.
The more I think about it, the more I'd love to be wandering through nature walks on photo expeditions listening to my ipod, taking shots, and then just plugging in my camera, dumping my card, and then having a fresh memory stick to fill with more photos.
With a USB 2.0 port or a firewire port, a 4MB song takes less then two seconds to upload to my iPod. To upload 100 songs, it takes less then thirty. It would probably upload one photo almost instantly, considering they're so much smaller in size then mp3s. I also don't see how the cable is bulky at all. It's a thin, two-foot cable. OMG BULKY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lobo
That's what I want, not what I can have.
To upload pictures to the ipod in the field I need a slow (hour plus for gig sticks) 3rd party peripheral that I don’t even trust.
I know, exactly. I mean, they sure as hell didn't state any sort of picture viewing batter life when they said, "Five hour battery life with continuous picture viewing."Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhydant
Anyhow, I can't believe that I'm the one saying this, but this thing is too expensive. And I'd really, really like to see it play video as well. But, of course, Apple is a major company, and is forced to play nice with people like the RIAA to keep doing what they want to do. Thus, I don't expect them to support a wide range of video codecs on the iPod, but damnit I can dream.
However, for you people who are saying, "looking at pictures on a 2" screen sucks," don't buy one and quit sounding like such an ass. The iPod (or anything similar) is a great way to take around a bunch of photos just to show off to people. People do it with wallet photos, people do it with cell phone cameras, people do it with tons of small little things. This isn't for looking at classic art or gorgeous nature scenes, this is just for showing people your family or friends when they want to know what they look like it. As well, the ability to hook it up to a television is a nice thing. "But I can just carry my camera with the photos on it and blah blah blah." First, can your camera suddenly carry around 40GB of photos? Second, I already have my iPod with me. Gee, I can also take my digital camera, or I can... well, just have my iPod which I already have.
This thing does need some additional features, though. An adapter to directly plug in a USB cable attached to a digital camera for one. Take it on the road, dump your photos off onto your iPod directly, sort through them and look at them on the iPod. Would be wonderful. As well, even though I don't have a need for it, I'm hoping that Apple was smart enough to build in (or is currently bulding) support for Keynote presentations. It'd be great to be able to take just your iPod and do a PowerPoint-style presentation from it.
When they get this feature, I'll buy the biggest gig model they can put in a pastel box.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
It would make a fuck of a lot more sense if it had a camera in it. For 400-500 bucks that would actually make sense.
I'm lazy. How much do the range of Ipods run these days?
Need to buy one as a gift.
Hrmph. I am still on the fence for what MP3 player I should get. I don't give two swags about Photo viewing however. But I do love the Ipods design and such. But the fact I can get a 40Gb Creative Nomad MP3 player for $200 as apposed to a 40Gb Ipod for $400, makes it tough.
Which you could fill with porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stone
What so he can look at it on the train? Hes not a japanese buisness man.
lol, now that's comedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash_Master
iPod mini (4GB) - $249Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
iPod (20GB) - $299
iPod (40GB) - $399
iPod photo (40GB) - $499
iPod photo (60GB) - $599
Before Tuesday's announcement, there were rumors all over that they might be introducing a flash-based iPod "micro." It didn't happen, but it still is a possibility. IF it happens, my guess is it won't make it in time for the holidays. Also, from Tuesday's little speech, it sounded like Jobs was still not a fan of flash-based players, so who even knows if it could happen or not.
One thing you might check are places like Best Buy, where they have open items for less. I've seen an iPod show up a few times at the one near mean, and that's how I got mine for cheaper.
I, myself want a new iPod photo for the
1. Improved 15 hour battery life
2. Color LCD Display
3. 60g Hard Drive
4. Ability to upload the Album Cover for viewing.
Even though I will never use the picture viewer, I can see the usefulness in developing the iPod Photo. It is a neat way of whoring around the photo's that are near and dear to you.
I think I'll wait for the price to come down a little. I'm trying to hold out for a iPOD that supports movie playback. Untill then, its a mini for me...
I think this competes with the Apple III for dumbest product Apple has ever put out. Why do I want to take photos with me like I do music? Why do I want to look at photos on an extremely tiny screen? Only 16bit color? It does not have a built in camera (which would have been the way to go) to really take advantage of the hard drive. This is classic "we've got a good product but ran out of ideas to keep people buying", same with the U2 ipod.
What is amazing is that the answers to all of those questiosn can be found already posted in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithium
Huh.
Here's a bandwagon. Jump on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithium
I saw a perfect example of this just today. Went to pick up Dawn of the Dead at Best Buy, and checked the iPods just out of curiosity. They had a 40GB iPod that had been opened and returned marked down from $399 to $319.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Or you can get a Zen for $212.
Why anyone would spend $100 more for an iPod is beyond me.
If it doesn't play movies on a large screen I don't care.
I'm getting a Windows Media Portable Media Center in a few weeks. 40GB of movies, music, pictures, anything. Hell, I could load the thing with Music Videos and just listen to music all day, with the videos playing.
I really don't get why pictures on an Ipod are big.
Because Apple fans are the ultimate fanboys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
One thing to think about, Color LCDS while not only draining batteries a significant amount more than a B&W version, Are also very hard to see in bright sunlight, and nearly impossible to see without a backlight in normal lighting conditions.
I am experencing this in my own industry as the Cell phone market has gone almost totaly color screen based, when in reality 60% of the consumers in the market don't need it.
If they were going to give the thing a color LCD at least give the thing the ability to playback quicktime files and make it somewhat worthwhile.
Or, a built in CF reader, or at least Bluetooth...somthing to make the photo feature worthwhile.
and please, go back to the 3rd gen button design.
Good for you. Maybe we'd care if this were the Zen thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
All of this elitist douchebaggery makes me hate Apple.
Well, the PMCs and the iPod are two totally different things at this point. You get an iPod because you first want a portable music player and a few extra options next. You get a PMC because you want to carry around your video files, and extra options next. I mean, I would hope that nobody would ever pick up a PMC because and first and foremost they want a portable music player. Because, those things may be "portable" when it comes to video, they aren't when it comes to music, at least, if you ask me. A portable music player slips into your back pocket, jacket pocket, or whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
And while I'd like to see an iPod one day that has video playback, I understand where Apple is coming from. Music is something you can play while you're doing one of countless other tasks. A portable video player only really has use when you have no other task to be a part of. Because of that, they are still more of a niche product.
It's not big. The iPod is still first and foremost a music player. The photo ability is just a nice extra option, just like the address book, the calendar, the notes feature, things like that.Quote:
I really don't get why pictures on an Ipod are big.
I like the idea, though, of being able to take all of my photos around with me. If somebody ever asks to see something, I can show them. Not a big deal, but a nice thing, and could be really useful sometimes.
The rumors have always been that while we might not see video played ON the iPod, we might see the ability to play video via a TV from the iPod, like we can now do with photos. Again, not a big deal, but it would be another nice extra. Want to take a movie or TV show over to watch at a friend's place? Play it from the iPod, without having to carry extra things, or worry about if they have a VCR / DVD player / PC needed to play the video.
Who is being elitist? Some of us just like the iPod, and think it works better than the other players. Just like some people on here like the Xbox, and think it is better than other systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
I wonder if anyone will try some crazy homebrew stuff to utilize this new color screen getup. I have faith someone, somewhere knows how to tinker with Apple's products. On the other hand, I'm really excited this is out - I kinda had a feeling it would happen, but my 15gig ipod is enough for me, and I don't take nearly enough photos to justify it.
Now...if they used that color screen to playback movies...or play games...that would be cool. In the end though, it's all gravy to the iPod's true meat - the music playback.
I can't believe no one else has brought this up. Ipod circular wheel control, button in the middle, color screen. You've essentially got a portable atari control. Atari emulation possibly more. Or hell a dvr playback device if someone unlocked that sucker and got the software on.
Bulshit, check this: http://www.engadget.com/entry/6213210442242855/Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Personal MP3/Videoplayer with 20gig HD and is roughly same size as an Ipod mini, plays games too.
PDAs have been doing this for years.
Precisely. The Zen got good reviews, so it would be an ok choice too. I see people in the bus, at school, downtown with iPods all the time. It's a good product but alot of the people that own them don't realize that they'll have to send the battery back to Apple when it dies, and unlike the Zen, it doesn't come included with a plethora of goodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
The iPod photo is nice, but if you're not a photographer, or have much of a need for photos on the go, this is useless.
Well, size of regular ipod, not mini. If it was mini size that'd be quite impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Because the Zen looks like shit and is cheaply built, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
Arkanoid on the ipod would be amazing.
My 40 gig zen xtra suits my purposes fine. The ipod is a bit slimmer and more professional looking. That's the only real difference I've notied, besides the ipod's scroll wheel, which I personally don't like.
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/ima...61019139928772Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Looks fine to me.
IDBTN.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
That's not even the one I have...I have the slightly older model I suppose.
Maybe if you would have checked up on apple.com at any one time during this year, you would have seen they now have instructions to replace your own battery at only $45, and it's surprisingly easy. That problem was eliminated over a year ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
Wow, only 45 bucks for something that should either last or recharge for a few years without fail?
Score...
Why would people need the feature of playing back quicktime files on their cell phone? That's about as useful as... wait for it... viewing photo's on your brand new iPod Photo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
Well maybe you can stream something like CNN on your cell phone, but it sounds pretty freaking useless. I think the greatest invention I've used with my cell phone is having a built in AM/FM radio. I use that more than I actually use my phone, and if I want to hear about current events straight away.
I was talking specifically about Microsoft Personal Media Centers, or whatever they are called, as that was what was brought up. What you showed goes right back to the "OMG the screen is too small!" argument that some are making, which is why the PMCs were brought up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Have you used one of those? From every review of them I've read, one movement from top to bottom on the "scroll bar" moves you only a few songs down your list. So, if you want to get from top to bottom, you have to sit there running your finger up and down it over and over and over. Great for practice to use on your girl, not great for an MP3 player interface.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
Well, they do already come with a few games. Nothing mind blowing, but you know. And there have been rumors of Apple putting out more information so that people can make iPod software easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
I would love to see Arkanoid / Breakout / something similar on it. It'd be perfect.
Er... it's there, heh. Even on my 2G 20GB iPod.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Jesus...Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
yes, my 200 dollar 40 gig zen vs. the 400 dollar ipod is well spent. There is not enough to the ipod to merit 200 more dollars, no matter how well it's made.
I don't have the zen touch scroll, I have a clicky wheel type device that doesn't turn, but is simply held up or down. It has a little bump on it that supports your finger nicely to hold it in either direction. Works beautifully. I suppose they took a step backwards with that function. The prev. generation jukebox, the 3, had a shitty wheel that you had to keep spinning, and was my least favourite part about it. The ipod scroll wheel makes me angry. I always overshoot or undershoot or cant get what I want. People with parkinsons couldn't use it. :P
Anyway, actual arkanoid on the ipod photo, with the color screen, is what I'm talking about here. That would be amazing. You can't play arkanoid without the knob or some other similar device.
With the knob - Level 20 easily.
Without - Level 3 maybe.
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Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Since Solitaire is on the iPod Photo, I don't see why they wouldn't import Brick (aka Arkanoid/Breakout), Music Quiz, and Parachute onto it. Breakout is extremely easy with the iPod wheel.
Hahaha. Yeah... whoops. I suck. I'll try to excuse myself by saying that I meant something more along the lines of Arkanoid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Let's be fair, though - this isn't just Apple. A great deal of MP3 players out there have battiers that aren't made to be user-replacable. I'm not defending Apple or anything - this is a pretty crappy deal. Too many companies anymore are looking at technology as being disposable, and when one component breaks down, you're supposed to buy a whole new one. Computers I'm a bit more forgiving on, because they become near worthless a few years out anyhow. But on something like a music player that doesn't just become a paperweight after a few years, you should be able to replace the battery cheaper and easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
I was infering that the Ipod photo should be able to play quicktime files if they are going to waste the effort on a color screen..Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
But anyways, the Ipod's battery problem isnt really Apple's fault. Lithium Ion batterys will last 2 years TOPS, then will no longer hold a charge. a heavy user would be lucky to get more than a year out of it.
Its stupid to not make the battery user serviceable, but thats not just Apple.