My obligation and duty ends at voting and passing the responsability off to another.
That, my friend, is the American Way.
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My obligation and duty ends at voting and passing the responsability off to another.
That, my friend, is the American Way.
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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Thats fine. Neither of our opinons really matter on the war anyway, neither candidate is capable, nor should, not finish it. I disagree with the reasons for war, more than the war itself.
Iraq was 3rd on the threatening bad guys list, behind North Korea, and Iran.
And yeah I've accepted the country is a republic first and foremost. I am just utterly amazed at half this populations unwillingness to admit this is a bad administration, and while John Kerry may not be the greatest candidate and the Bush administration would like to convince you of that at least once a day, the current administration's awful track record speaks way louder than John Kerry's lack of one.
Yoshi is the guy who believes 9/11 was Clinton's fault, and that the democrats are to blame for Bush's worst-jobs-record-ever. It's not that he doesn't believe in holding politicians accountable, he just doesn't believe in holding republicans accountable.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
A) A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.
I'm just giving him every out strider, to not be a partisan hack.
Say what you will about Diffusion X, but at least he knows his shit, and has those opinions because he is a free thinking human being.
It wasn't a random spout. He thought of what to say and deliberatly said it as pertaining to the topic at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
Who passed up the opportunity to take Bin Laden out multiple times after he attacked the US the first time? I'll give you a hint. It was the same guy who signed the economic package that included the largest tax increase in American history, which caused the recession, which is now over. The recession started in 2000. This is a fact, according to economists. You cannot blame Bush for things that happened prior to January, 2001. I know that's tough to swallow. If my Presidential choice was too busy fucking a fat intern to save thousands of American civilians' lives, I'd try to push revisionist history too.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
You can take that implication and shove it up your uninformed ass. Knowing that liberal politics are uniformly incorrect is not contrary to being free thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
Sounds like us.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I think his point is the part in bold. You can't know that any more than I could "know" the quote in my sig as true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I disagree. If you understand economics or terrorism at all, you would quickly realize that the values set forth by the Democrats simply hold no water. People have varying opinions on moral issues like abortion or stem cell research. People are either right or wrong about what stimulates an economy, and it is absolutely wrong to support a welfare state at the expense of the job creators. People are also right or wrong about how to fight a war, and being isolationist pussies is the wrong way. If that worked, the Clinton administration would not have watched the first attack hit the WTC in 1993.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
No I'll shove it up your ass Yoshi, beacause you have yet to make one reasonable argument about anything you have backed.
Short, general, sweeping, partisan bullshit, is your thing Yoshi. And it will remain your thing until you actually bother to explain yourself or your belief's.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
And the Bush administration would not have overspent a four trillion dollar surplus.
Please. Conservative does not mean right Yoshi. Tax cuts to big business and wealthy america does not either. Have you ever blamed your party for anything that has gone wrong? Your attittude conveys the very essence of what makes this administration so wrong, "that there cannot possibly be any other way, because we haven't though of it."
Geh, you're still talking about a surplus? Surplus = money the government is stealing from us and not using. That's it. It's like you stealing $10 out of my wallet, spending $5, and being proud that you saved the other $5 for later.
Bush's problem is that he cut taxes (good), talked about cutting spending (good), and then didn't cut spending (bad) and spent money on bullshit government programs (bad) and programs that benefitted his corporate donors (bad).
Bush says the right things and then fucks it up.
Kerry says everything and hasn't shown he can do anything - just based on Bush's incompetence, I'd be inclined to vote for Kerry, but it's hard because I've got no idea what Kerry's presidency will get me other than another asshole who in this case happens not make my brain hurt when I listen to him on television.
If, after being elected, Kerry runs hard to the right, sort of how Clinton did, then things will be basically okay. We'll take one step back, we'll strengthen worthless international organizations, europe, and anti-interventionists, but we'll still end up defending the country, and it'll be easier and cheaper because Kerry will in all likelihood do a better job of coalition building. The supreme court justices will kind of suck, they'll be too liberal, but Bush's would have been too conservative.
If Kerry thinks that he has a mandate from the Anyone But Bush motherfuckers and decides to govern like a real liberal, then we're fucked.
I hate Michael Moore more than I hate Trent Lott, and there's something compelling in the thought of seeing Michael Moore pull his hair out in anguish.