I know you all well hate this thread but do you think halo 2 lived up to the hype? I personally don't. Its a good game but I will not re-buy a Xbox for it.
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I know you all well hate this thread but do you think halo 2 lived up to the hype? I personally don't. Its a good game but I will not re-buy a Xbox for it.
This kind of thread always appears when a uber-high profile game is released.
They never live up to the hype. I pity anyone who expects anything to live up to Halo2/MGS2/GTA levels of hype.
i think it does, i enjoy its cinematic qualities, plus i always wanted to know the rest of the story anyway after the books. Also, the music in part 2, especially the intro menus - just pwns.
Single player was a huge disappointment for me.
Multiplayer more than meets the hype and is worth the $50 easily. This is the greatest Live game out there, hands down. If you don't have Live and have this game, you're an idiot.
GTA: SA lived up to and surpassed the hype surrounding it.
GTA:SA lived up to the hype, beat it with a purple dildo and stole its money
I've generally wound up being very satisfied with hyped games, including MGS2 and GTA. Having played only a bit of Halo 2, I get the sense that my expectations will likewise have been met. Doesn't mean all those games were perfect, just that I was very satisfied buying and playing them.
Am not attacking Halo 2 or any other hyped game. i just wanted to know. the way it was marketed and Microsoft saying they will make 100 million in one day is just annoying( It also shows Microsoft immaturity with the industry)
The cinematics were good for a FPS ( even better than metroids) but crap compared to other genres like RPGs
The story was good and funny at times. However it felt rushed and I played the special edition one so am sure the regular game has an even more rushed story.
the weapons are balanced but nothing was really added. Unlike MP Echoes with the different abilities or Killzone gun fire sound it felt like playing with the exact same guns from halo 1. the dual weilding was also pretty dumb. it didn't add much.
I will admit the music is awesome and the battles sound really good. You can tell how intense it is and not even watch. However the atmosphere and ambience it made compared to MP2 is nothing.
( Am comparing it to the Metroid Prime 2: Echoes demo by the way)
Please, please shut the fuck up right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
This is true. GTA should be an inspiration for all companys who go w/ updates of a game, ala Tony Hawk. Make everything a little bit better and the game just kicks the crap out of the last one.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
Mzo what the fuck did dual weilding add to the game. You could shoot with 2 guns oh my god it a revolution in gaming, ring the bells, call the fire marshall. Lets make Bungie a legend now and compare them to Shigero Miyamota,Yu Suziki, and Will Wright becuase they put Dual Weilding in Halo 2. From a Nintendo fanboy to an Xbox fanboy STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
lol
Keep convincing me you're a joke account, please. People have been wanting you banned for a long time now, I'd love to do them the favor.
Am I missing something, or are you just talking directly out of your ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
What did it add? It's just fucking cool, that's what. Other games have done it too, and better. But the fact is, dual weapons in any game, guns or swords or both, is just cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
Am going to be banned becuase I don't like Halo as much as you do?
It changes the multiplayer to a great degree.
Ha! Yeah, like the regular edition has a diffrent press of the game entirely over the special edition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prince Planet
What has he done to warrent this? (Excessive and blatent trolling, I guess.) Last time I checked, being an idiot got you hated by the majority, but not banned. If that was the case, 90% of TNL (including myself) would end up getting one banhammer (or bakamallet for you faggot-chans in the audience) to the dome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
The best response is to ignore him -- and as much as I loathe ignoring people, he really does bring nothing to the table and takes away lots. At least most of the other trolls on this forum can show some intelligence (or even quite a bit) from time to time.
-Dippy
While I haven't played Halo 2 because I don't own an XBox, I do like the dual wielding idea. I just hope MGS3 lives up to its hype. MGS2 is still a sore spot for me.
Yeah, I should know better. Even I fuck up once in a while =/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstick
No chance in hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raz0r
Multiplayer is great, but I have a sinking feeling that I'm going to like Unreal Championship 2 more. |-)
I have zero interest in Halo single player since the original didn't really keep my attention more than halfway through the game.
I'm happy with my purchase, though.
dual weilding is not that big a contribution to the game. I think carjacking is way better and funner. Its like GTA in the future. It lik.... GTA in the future? Thats a damn good idea.
dual wielding is cool.... i think it would have been better if master cheif would target two seperate enemies at once but its still neat.
differnce of opinions I guess.
I think there'll be a MGS2-ish backlash against the game. Or at least a Doom3-ish backlash, but it'll still sell a million copies.
After playing the MGS:SE demo I think it can live up to the hype.
I was thinking the same thing. They should have it set up that if you push both the thumbsticks in you can move each gun independently, but then you couldnt move. Anyways, I came to the conclusion that you would die very very quickly trying shit like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by station82o
eh they could have auto aim on it - so when you did dual wield your guns would go for either the nearest enemy or most dangerous enemy
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Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Just a million? I'm thinking 4 - 5 million.
By a million I simply mean "alot".Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
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Originally Posted by epmode
OMG because review mean everything
OMG I cant enjoy a game any more than a reviewer did
OHHH NOOEEESSS!!!!!!
i was kinda hoping remnant would throw a fit. i couldn't care less about the reviews.
Err.. this wouldn't work for Live as it would be too cheap...Quote:
Originally Posted by station82o
I'll wait until I beat Halo 2, but so far: yes, it did live up to my expectations. The single player is still leaving a lot to be desired, but all in all, it was worth my money.
And plus, I LOVE getting hyped up for games. I really think that's why I'm a gamer. I like getting excited about stupid things... it's what makes me... me.
Id take Bungie over Miyamoto and Suzuki.Quote:
Lets make Bungie a legend now and compare them to Shigero Miyamota,Yu Suziki, and Will Wright becuase they put Dual Weilding in Halo 2.
and we all know reviews mean so much to our individual enjoyment of games.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
:rolleyes:
see above. and just in case you missed this in the other thread: even though i love the plasma sword, you were right about halo 2's single player.
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Originally Posted by epmode
I couldnt care less about reviews either, they very rarely ever cover anything I care about in their reviews normally it's just I like this game there fore you should like it too, and i hear remnant touches himself while playing halo 2
How long have you been playing videogames? A week? Every single company that makes hit game (or cd or movie) does the exact same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
I didn't hear Rockstar saying GTA:SA it will hit 100 million coipies in a day. Its freaking IMPOSSIBLE
lol Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
100 million dollars, not copies. $100,000,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
Which they have managed.
Remnants actually right on this one: dual weilding didn't really add anything new to the gameplay. You can go through the game never using it and you'd still do just fine. You pick up a gun (or two) and start blasting away at the enemies, it really makes no different. Car jacking does make a big change. Being able to get a tank out of the hands of an enemy after your warthog just got blown to smitherines is definitely a great new addition that goes beyond just 'cool' and begins to travel into useful territory.
Oh and Halo 2 probably didn't live up to the hype reviewers and fans built up for it, and I believe that multiplayer alone shouldn't make a single player game and I also believe Bungie were idiots for not finishing the story in the slightest for this game, which is them basically ripping off fans who clamoured for more Master Chief (and also did this to use by making us play as the Artisan too) But it was pretty close and Bungie did a fine job. It definitely didn't disappoint in the gameplay area because it brought the same game to the dance we loved at launch.
So far I'm agreeing with all of this completely, though I haven't tried MP yet, but I'm sure I'll agree there as well. But honestly, thus far I'm really dissapointed with the SP. It's like fucking Driver 3, but Halo. Seriously, it even looks like Driver 3. :p I honestly can't believe how unpolished this game is after all the time in developement, not only is it riddeled with graphical inconsistencies and stupid AI quirks, but it just plain looks awful, and it just doesnt have the variety and feeling of the original to me. I feel like the original is a far better game already. I mean, it's still pretty fun, but fuck, not 10/10 fun. I guess they kept extremely quiet about the SP for a reason. =/ San Andreas on the other hand, has more than surpassed my highest expectations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
I'm actually enjoying the single player mode more than multiplayer. When I heard that there was no online coop play, my interest hit rock bottom. Another FPS with different variations of death match gets old quickly. I so wanted to go through campaign mode on legendary with a friend. Now I need to link up for that (pain in the ass).
Dual weilding adds strategy to multiplayer. Of course it wouldn't in single.
Halo 2 could never live up to the super hype it had. Because with a game with hype like that people are LOOKING for every little difference or fault and the fualts get bloated because the person was expecting perfection.
The sinlge player is great fun, multiplayer is great fun. So just enjoy it.
It's funny, because the game wasn't even anywhere near my radar for the majority of it's developement. I'm a big Halo fan, I've read all the books, owned and played through the original multiple times, yet, it always seemed so far away that I never really gave it much thought other than that it'd be in my hands when they released it, and now that they have, it kinda sucks. =(
Duel wielding is a bigger contribution to the game then car-jacking is. At least for the important parts, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
...What?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
(P.S. It's Arbitrator, he wasn't making pictures and sculptures. Also, that was one helluva sentence.)
It's Arbiter, he wasn't settling contract disputes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
I'm on Level 4 of Halo 2 SP and loving it. Fuck the haters.
I didn't know that GTA:SA and MGS3 had hype.
Halo 2 is the best game I have ever played. Those who feel disapointed with single player, or say plain ridiculous things like "It lacked the variety of the original" need to get their head examined. Go back and play the Library, or levels like The Control Room and tell me that the original Halo had something that resembled variety. Halo is a action title. It doesn't try and be anything else. If you want jumping block puzzles or some other bullshit, look elsewhere.
Multiplayer is even better than I thought.
Halo 2 easily lived up to, and in some ways suprassed the hype. Does it have the worst ending of all time? Sure. Does it matter? Not really. Do the textures (During moments you're not even playing. And if it does happen while you're playing, get a new XBOX. Yours is dying) load a fraction of a second late? Yep. Does that even matter? Well, considering that people are willing to put up with GTA:SA which is one of the ugliest things the PS2 has ever produced, Hell no.
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Originally Posted by Sl1p
My feelings exactly. This is one of the best pure action games I've played, and DEFINITELY the best console FPS I've ever played. I'm loving the single player campaign thus far, since it's basically everything I had hoped the original Halo would be. Are there minor flaws? Sure. But I don't care... it's still absolutely amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
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Originally Posted by sethsez
Si.
I love the game in SP. Love it.
Melf, there is online co-op. You just need to invite a friend into your party, go into Game Options and select "switch to co-op"Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
EDIT: Nevermind. You can just access it from XBL...which is retarded.
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Originally Posted by remnant
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The cinematics were good for a FPS ( even better than metroids) but crap compared to other genres like RPGs
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The story was good and funny at times. However it felt rushed and I played the special edition one so am sure the regular game has an even more rushed story.
Joke Account. Somebody fess up to it. I am completely convinced this is a social experiment. You have been officially outed, now own up.Quote:
the weapons are balanced but nothing was really added. Unlike MP Echoes with the different abilities or Killzone gun fire sound it felt like playing with the exact same guns from halo 1. the dual weilding was also pretty dumb. it didn't add much.
As far as living up to hype: Who cares? If you let yourself get caught up in Hype and expect each high-profile game to be your savior you probably don't post here. This is a board for the fallen angels of videogame innocence. People around here focus on the negative, that is they way it is. Ignorance is bliss, and TNL is well-informed. For better or worse.
LOL I cannot stress enough how god damned amusing this is.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
The level of detail switcheroo that causes this effect is part of the game's code and always happens a set distance from the player. It has nothing to do with the condition of one's xbox. If you're not seeing it in the single player game, get new eyes because yours are dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sl1p
No, it doesn't matter at all. It's just an observation. There's nothing very wrong visually that actually effects the gameplay. Nothing like the stupid sun glare in GTA:SA or anything.Quote:
Does that even matter?
Halo 2 has some great game mechanics and I'm sure that once I'm able to play online it'll blow my brains right out through my ear, but single player just isn't doing it for me. To many generic kill group of enemies scenarios, too many lost oppertunities, like the scarab 'fight.'
You've obviously never played multiplayer. Dual weilding completely changed the name of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Right, it's a terrible fucking cocktease.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousJazz
Opaque knows the score. Anyone that hasn't noticed how dual wielding has completely changed combat is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
And if you bought the greatest multiplayer game of all time without the intention of playing the multiplayer...
LAWL!
Exactly. Its like people forgot how horrible some of those levels were because the game has been out awhile. Library is one of the worst levels EVER as is the first level. Halo 2 keeps the same style but the levels (to me) are just better. H2 over H1 any day of the week.Quote:
Those who feel disapointed with single player, or say plain ridiculous things like "It lacked the variety of the original" need to get their head examined. Go back and play the Library, or levels like The Control Room and tell me that the original Halo had something that resembled variety. Halo is a action title. It doesn't try and be anything else. If you want jumping block puzzles or some other bullshit, look elsewhere.
Who gives a shit? We get Half-Life 2 in five days.
It does happen a lot during game play. Not just character models, but level textures too. It happens more in the outside areas. In one area, I came into it and just looked around to get a feel for it, and when I looked behind me, I saw a big olive colored polygon. About a second later, the textures poped in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sl1p
You can see the crazy texture popping on the bonus DVD too, so I assume this problem was around at least at the time they filmed that.
But does it matter that much to me? No, it's not a deal breaker in this case because I think the game is so much fun. I'm more pissed about the busted AI than the busted graphics.
Wish I could play it on my PC. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Sl1p, stop making excuses for it. I have a brand new Sports Pack Xbox I just got because my old HD died. It's in the cut scenes and in the game, deal with it. There are problems with textures loading much too slow and the LOD is ridiculous... like inches away.
Is it gamebreaking? No. Is it ugly and borderline unacceptable for a professional release, especially one this huge? Yes. Would you be running up and down every thread saying Metroid Prime 2 was the worst game of all time and Retro was steaming shit if MP2 had the same problem? Definitely. So stfu.
I just started single player again on Heroic, since Normal was no fun at all. The enemywas just retarded. Now it's a little on the hard side, but at least they're reacting to my presence. And I'm getting used to the ugly to the point where I don't really notice it much. Now all I need is a stretch of time longer than 10 mins where someone doesn't send me an invite =/
Actually, I don't, since multiplayer is so godlike. I'll beat it someday.
wait, i'm a bit confused.. so is there online co-op? I thought there wasn't.
if not, wouldn't it be attainable through an XBL update? </wishful thinking>
I played it a little bit with 4 friends, but I haven't gone online yet. I was just playing my friends copy. I'm waiting to buy Half-life 2 in the next two weeks since it's made by competant game designers who know how to give us a great singleplayer coupled with an extensive multiplayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Amen to that. All of these fanboyish comments involving Halo 2 are giving me a headache. I swear that if you didn't know any better you'd think remnant and Mzo were brothers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
OHHHH, IT'S ON!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
This is 100% factual information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Am I hearing this right? Do I hear people complain about Halo 2 not living up to its hype because of graphincs and then proceeding to praise GTA SA. I wouldnt complain about any games graphical shortcomings and unpolish until you complain about GTA's level of unpolish. The biggest amount of graphical shortcomings and hiccups ever in a highly rated game.
Anyways Halo 2 is the complete package. Great single player or co-op action game. Plus a great online competion game.
Hopefully Half Life 2 will have great multi-player, but I think they are saving those ideas for CS 2 or the other half life mods.
Absolute truth. And the cutscene character models are terribly ugly. Some of the female marines in-game have all white glowing eyes, as well. Scary demonspawn marines I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mzo
Yeah, that's pretty harsh, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
And I don't know where you've been, but I'm not a Halo fanboy at all. Multiplayer on Live is just beyond fantastic, though. You gotta give props where they're due.
In a nutshell, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Canuck
But all the other GTA games had the same graphical problems, didn't they? Or are there new problems that go above and beyond the old ones? I don't remember this texture pop-in shit happning in the original Halo, and I don't remember the cutscenes too well but the people could not have looked as bad as they do now.
Lesson: Don't make the models more sophisticated if the end result will be worse than what you had. It's mostly just the faces and animation. The other stuff is okay.
Who gives a shit? We get Half-Life 2 in five days.
Nope. Not even System Link. You have to do the splitscreen on one Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_
It doesn't matter though, because the campaign is so frustratingly dull that you'll only want to play online multiplayer anyway.
Halo 2 looks worse than Halo 1. It is hideous, and vomit-inducing. End of story.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
Watch the new episode of Red vs Blue where they switch to the new game half way through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
It's almost mind blowing how improved the graphics are.
crazy talk. unless you're just referring to the texture fuck-ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
in other news, omg why doesn't my damn flashlight stay on?! it only remains on in select "dark areas", even though lots of other places are dark enough to require a light.
No, I literally vomitted on my TV. :(
your poor tv! :cry::cry::cry:
I'm just going to have to go ahead and believe this news.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Yeah, what's so hard about a toggle?? Did anyone complain that the damn flashlight, ohnoez, stayed on longer than 2 seconds! It actually let me see in the dark =( I wish Bungie would fix this in the sequel.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Now that Halo 2 is out, I can't wait to get HL2.
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Originally Posted by Andy
OMGHI2UBUTTS3XX?
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Originally Posted by ViciousJazz
NOOOOOQuote:
Originally Posted by Melf
You're playing online, you see that option... you get boners! You click it...
It tells you you need 2 people connected to the same Xbox to work. Useless.
I still have only ever seen it during IGC's. You need to stop trying to be a dick for giving you all that shit for accepting something as vile looking as GTA:SA. You want to talk about unproffessional? Look at that shit.Quote:
Sl1p, stop making excuses for it. I have a brand new Sports Pack Xbox I just got because my old HD died. It's in the cut scenes and in the game, deal with it. There are problems with textures loading much too slow and the LOD is ridiculous... like inches away.
And as the boards biggest HL2 fanboy, I hereby declare that I officially do not give a shit about it anymore. It's no Halo 2.
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Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Well, if the original game has inherent problems, like all the GTA games do, then they really should fix the engine before adding new content. How people can let it slide for GTA and knock Halo 2 for it is beyond me. Halo 1 had its fair share of graphical hiccups, mainly frame rate and lack of detail. Halo 2 did fix the engine though, since there is more detail and the frame rate is consistant. Plus it added a great multiplayer mode with XBOX live. Which really is nothing to sneeze at. A entire mode that can potentially give you hours upon hours of shooting enjoyment is a huge bonus. Not an excuse to bash the single player and say crap like if it didnt have live it would suck. Both modes in Halo 2 would get 8's or 9's easily as stand alone games and Halo 2 has this in one package. GTA on the other hand would get like a 6 for the driving portion, a 2 for the final fight type fighting engine(Hockey games have better fighting engines compared to GTA 3), and a 5 tops for the shooting engine. Yet its perfectly acceptable for them not to fix that crap, while Halo 2 gets nailed for pop up. Ok there.
the general game design rule should be if the game concentrates on size and story progression, the game should have a engine you dont have to worry about. Like a turn based RPG where you dont have to worry about bad controls or cameras. Or if you do make an action RPG, make sure the camera and game engine is good enough to not detract from the overall experience. Kingdom Hearts was garbage because of these game design problems.If KH was a turn based game it would have been great. Just like I think GTA would deserve all the hype it gets if the gunfighting, beat downs on the street, and car jacking controlled like butter or atleast like anything remotely smooth. The Halo 2 engine is butter compared to the GTA engine.
Ok that's enough bitching for today. I think its cool to love GTA if its that much fun for you, but its not cool to down Halo 2 for the same reasons that make GTA the most overatted game ever to some people. :D
The GTA series is the only series in recent memory that somehow managed to get uglier (On the PS2. PC was always great) as time went on, yet got more and more praised for everything, including it's graphics along side it. GTAIII was okay looking, had major framerate problems but was somewhat acceptable. Vice City looked like Garbage and now GTA:SA looks like the bastard child of Driver PSOne and True Crime: Streets of LA.
But when Halo 2 has some texture pop-in during parts you're not even playing, it's the worst looking game in existance.
Yeah, that is totally fair.
The models are less sopisticated actually. They use something like what was done in Riddick, except it didn't work so well. When the normal map (I suppose thats what they used) doesn't load (i guess this is that texture pop-in) the character doesn't look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
PURELY unprofessional speculation.
Multiplayer on Live is great, I'm sure of it and there's no debating it (I wouldn't and I like to argue), but dual weilding is definitely not an Earth shattering turn of events. Cool, yes, but it's essentially you doing the same thing as always, just with more bullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
It's normal mapping. They essentially render super high poly count character models, strip off the texturing, and throw it on a low poly count model to create the illusion of really sophisticated models. There's no excuse for the texture pop-in in Halo 2, no matter what anyone says. Riddick used normal mapping, has no pop-in, and looks five times better than Halo 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
Halo 2 is the toilet paper Halflife 2 lets its pets use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sl1p
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IBTN
One great aspect of the dual weilding, is that you can choose to shoot one gun or both. So, if one gun runs out of ammo, you can rely on the second gun to keep on shooting, instead of having to duck and reload while the enemie's shields regenerate.Quote:
Originally Posted by remnant
Considering many people had hyped Halo 2 up to be the best thing since oral sex and it let so many people down, you'd think people would learn to keep their expectations somewhat reasonable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
*waits for people to say Half-Life 2 is ass-ugly because there's some jittery animation in the cutscenes*
Halo 2 is better than oral sex.
Oh Halo 2 is a great game and I do not deny it this accolade. There's also no denying that when it comes to the pecking order of first person shooters Halflife 2 uses Halo 2 to wipe the shit off its dogs ass. We'll call that dog Bobo just for kicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
Halflife 2 will own everything else out there, bar none. Far Cry, Doom 3, Halo 2, Painkiller, Halo 3, Serious Sam, Quake, Unreal Tournament, Quake III Arena, Halflife: Source, and any other game you feel like mentioning will be its bitch. It is the only game I've been hyped about this year and judging from the video's it will offer an amazing single player experience and shortly after that it will be reborn in amazing multiplayer modifications to justify it. Counterstrike 2, Day of Defeat 2 and more importantly to me Team Fortress 2 will all devour my time and if you're smart, yours' too.
Get hyped.
Okay...I just finished the game and I have to say that the story mode didn't live up to the hype...the multiplayer does...and most of us bought it for Live play/LAN play so its all good...
I just wish they didn't cut the story that was developing in half for Halo 2...
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Originally Posted by Andrew
There's already source versions of CS and Day of Defeat, that will get updated as time goes on. They are already planning new maps for CS.
Unless you mean there's somehow sequels in the works.
counterstrike 2 is in development, and it is seperate from cs: source. not sure about day of defeat 2.