Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3? i must be dreaming!

From Gamespot:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/12...s_6114540.html

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Earlier this evening, EA LA vice president Mark Skaggs sent a surreptitious email to the Command & Conquer fan newsletter list that stated, "we are very proud to announce that the team that brought you Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2, Command & Conquer: Yuri's Revenge, and Command & Conquer: Generals has officially started work on our next project set in the Red Alert universe!" In the same email, Skaggs went on to reveal that the new game will be powered by the SAGE engine, the same technology that the studio used for Command & Conquer: Generals, then later modified heavily for The Lord of the Rings, The Battle for Middle-earth.

The email went on to state that an official announcement would be made "soon." GameSpot will have more details as they become available.

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i'm speechless, i have always enjoyed C&C:RA series greatly, and after seeing how EA butchered the C&C:Generals, i had very little hope that we would ever see RA3(if thats what theyre gonna call it).

the game is said to use the SAGE egine, which was impressive, but i feel it needed some enhancement. The soldiers modeling in generals was total ass, the texture were cool, but for RA3 i hope they make things a little brighter, i had a hard time distiguishing some units due to the terrain having similar color in generals.

also, 3 things i would like to see in RA3, 1) i hope i have the option to zoom out more than in generals. 2) having game speed control, generals was pathetically slow. 3) i would like to have the option to place the control bar on the right side like in RA1 and 2. instead of placing it at the bottom.


anyways, enough talk, i just hope EA doesnt butcher this game.


btw, did the westwood designers join EA?

I think most of Westwood was absorbed into EA...

I have only played the original C&C and the original Red Alert (loved them both). If anyone has the time, what other games came out in this series since? Which ones are worth playing?

Frankly I thought Generals was the best in the series, since it was actually playable. But then again I'm from the Blizzard camp when it comes to RTS, and since this is a C&C thread I won't go any farther. I did enjoy the premise of the first Red Alert, so hopefully they can do some nifty things with this.

Do not put a cap on the amount of units you can build and keep the skirmish mode AI balanced properly (Warcraft 3 is pretty brutal) and I will buy this game. I love the Red Alert series. The best missions are the race against the nuke missions.

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Originally Posted by Error

Frankly I thought Generals was the best in the series, since it was actually playable. But then again I'm from the Blizzard camp when it comes to RTS, and since this is a C&C thread I won't go any farther. I did enjoy the premise of the first Red Alert, so hopefully they can do some nifty things with this.

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I never knew it was a one-or-the-other deal with the fans =/

I enjoy them both a lot. I loved the original Red Alert, it's one of the few RTS games I've ever beaten (on both sides, too). Never played Red Alert 2, but someone should tell me if Tanya's in it. That'd get me to try it out.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I never knew it was a one-or-the-other deal with the fans =/

I enjoy them both a lot. I loved the original Red Alert, it's one of the few RTS games I've ever beaten (on both sides, too). Never played Red Alert 2, but someone should tell me if Tanya's in it. That'd get me to try it out.

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yes Tanya is in Red Alert 2

My dad loves Red Alert and creamed his jeans when he played Generals. He even told me Zero Hour sucked because they still didn't get the naval units right.

That game and Solitaire are all he plays.

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Originally Posted by Zerodash

I think most of Westwood was absorbed into EA...

I have only played the original C&C and the original Red Alert (loved them both). If anyone has the time, what other games came out in this series since? Which ones are worth playing?

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Red Alert 2 + Yuri's Revenge expansion = MAD RTS! :)


You have got to try out Yuri's Revenge, i played it online for a stead year non stop, it was so addicting, i woke up and slept playing Yuri. the shit they say in the game is so fucking helariouse :)


they need to leave the Generals crew from touching RA3, or else i'm gonna raise hell! :mad:

This isn't Red Alert themed, but it is RTS themed:

I want naval units back in Warcraft. They took them out of Warcraft 3, I assume it was because the story just briefly crossed water or mentioned the word water (to get to the Northern islands), but what is there any other reason why they were taken out? I liked the naval combat in Warcraft 2 a lot, and the maps like 1000 islands would make you think strategically about which islands to go on to build outposts and defense and which to avoid.

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Originally Posted by Revoltor

My dad loves Red Alert and creamed his jeans when he played Generals. He even told me Zero Hour sucked because they still didn't get the naval units right.

That game and Solitaire are all he plays.

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To me the RA series has this sense of charm that i find lacking in Generals(besides i billion other things).


tell your dad he needs to check out RA2: Yuris Revenge, it's not as graphically impressive as Generals, but in terms of game play it pisses all over Generals. And yes RA2 and Yuri both have tons of naval units.



as Yuri would always say..... "Disc in Fliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!" :)

Naval units were restored to warcraft 3 in the expansion. Sorta anyway.

And ya, there were two camps during the olden RTS days. Warcraft 2 vs Command and Conquer. The commands were just different enough, and the gameplay also, that it broke into your typical 2 sided pissing contest. That is until Starcraft came out and demolished everything, and Tiberian Sun sucked.

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Originally Posted by Error

Tiberian Sun sucked.

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Tiberian Sun was absolute gerbage!

I... I... kinda liked it omg =*(

I played both C&C and WC. Add what you said about mechanics and gameplay, and add the completely different themes and you have two great games that stand apart.

Best Line of Red Alert 2:

"RUBBER SHOES IN MOTION!" - Tesla Trooper

Best Line of Tiberian Sun:

"FOUR ON THE FLOOR!" - Mutant Hijacker

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Best Line of Red Alert 2:

"RUBBER SHOES IN MOTION!" - Tesla Trooper

Best Line of Tiberian Sun:

"FOUR ON THE FLOOR!" - Mutant Hijacker

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hehehe,

also those those camoflage tanks that turn into trees in Yuris Revenge:

"Lean, Green and Unseen!"


:lol:

"I'm so good." - Tanya

The original Red Alert was a masterpiece [ESPECIALLY WITH AFTERMATH], RA2 was a good game but the story was trash, they took it from a serious tone to a joke. Generals has had the best gamepaly of the series, but fell short by taking out the great story. EA shit all over the franchise when Westwood was bought. Since EA dissolved Westwood I can see this being a thrown together piece of shit. Shoulda just let Westwood finish that Renegade 2 they were working on. You were Tanya in RA1, it looked promising. EA threw it out when they broke up Westwood though... Might be some screens online somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Gibbits

RA2 was a good game but the story was trash,

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I totally disagree. The RA2 story was infinitely more entertaining than the originals', plus they often integrated it into the on-screen game (i.e. when you're trying to capture the President and he berates you through your map screen). No C&C storyline has ever been Oscar material, but out of the combined series RA2's story is easily the best.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I want naval units back in Warcraft. They took them out of Warcraft 3, I assume it was because the story just briefly crossed water or mentioned the word water (to get to the Northern islands), but what is there any other reason why they were taken out? I liked the naval combat in Warcraft 2 a lot, and the maps like 1000 islands would make you think strategically about which islands to go on to build outposts and defense and which to avoid.

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There's no way in hell ships in WC3 would be entertaining, strategic or interesting in any way. Blizzard knows this, and everyone that's unsuccessfully tried to make a naval mod has learned this. It just doesn't fit with the gameplay style.

So is there any idea about when it's going to be released? A year, what?

I reckon they will mess it up though, and make it too much like C&C generals, which I think the graphics and looks of it ruined the gameplay; they tried to make it too advanced. RA2 was great, I'd just like to see another version of that; better graphics, a few new units and a new story.

i wish they would stick to 2D, like they did with the RA series.....i can dream can't i? :(

RA3 needs to have that sci-fi/comedy feel to it.


no idea on the release date, i want them to take thier time and give us a decent product atleast.

Awesome. I was hoping for at least another add-on for Generals, but this works even better.

RA2 was fantastic.
Yuri's Revenge was shit.

If RA3 = RA2, then = bought.

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Originally Posted by MVS

RA2 was fantastic.
Yuri's Revenge was shit.

If RA3 = RA2, then = bought.

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Yuri was fantastic, what didn't you like about it?



MAGNETRONS OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Marwan
Yuri was fantastic, what didn't you like about it?

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I'm sorry, but Yuri's Revenge sucked.
They completely ruined the soviets, didn't change the allies, and then created the yuris who were superior in almost every aspect.
It was boring; if you played as yuri, you would always win, no matter what; the different forces were completely unbalanced.
And the storyline sucked too.
I agree with MVS, if RA3 is like RA2, just with a few new features, I will get it.

Agreed, it just wasn't fun.

Okay, I see the need to give the Soviets an Airbased Anti Land unit, but that Helicopter/Arty was just too overpowerd and made it easier to rape. At least in RA2, you had a solid chance to defeat any Rhino Rush, with Sandbagged Infantry, and given the Allies a Sandbadged Patriot guy was just too much. One was a bad solution to a limited problem, and the other was a solution to no problem.

The single player was weak was well. I played through RA2 about 5 times on toughest setting, but I did one and out for Yuri's Revenge. Just wasn't fun.

The Allied Robot Tanks, which I assume were to counter Yuri Take Over Attack, was weak as well. If you want to give both Allied and Soviet an Anti-Yuri Unit, fine, but making it so that you have to susatain constant power or the control center is just stupid.

Balance went from 60-40 in favor of Soviet in under 10 min games, and 60-40 in favor of Allies in over 10 min games to Yuri 50, US 25 and Soviet 25.

All the changes in YR threw off the tactics far too much to be fun, and while I'm all about a new experience, it has to be a new better experience and not lame.

in terms of difficulty, i agree that Yuri was too powerfull throwing the whole balance difficulty.


anyways, let's move on, back to RA3 :)

Actually, before we move on, any word on a demo for this teams latest game, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth?

Generals would be the finest game in the series if it wasnt for the fact that its got nothing to do with the series itself :lol: all the fans got pissed at it.
if they keep the Generals gameplay, graphics, balanced sides, and building system (thats right I HATE CONSTRUCTION YARDS) and make a decent storyline with fun movies like RA2, this is gona be the game to buy.
Take as long as they need to make it, it has to be something worth our money. But if they fall back to construction yards... well, then I'd MUCH rather buy whatever game Blizzard may release than the next Red Alert.