NY Erects "Holiday Tree" at Rockefeller

What is this nonsense? Just because people of all other religions want in on the beauty of Christmas and whine about being left out doesn't mean poeple should cater to the pussies.

We're going to NY to see the "Holiday Tree" this weekend.


Next year it will probably be sponsored by Pepsi. "The Pepsi Holiday Tree"

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Originally Posted by toxic

"The Pepsi Holiday Tree"

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That sounds so right it's scary.

And I guess they need a "holiday tree", because a huge ass Menorah in the middle of Times Square is probably a bad idea.

And a Kwanza...um...what the hell is that holiday, anyways, besides christmas for african americans? Never heard about it until a few years ago.

Fuck people.

Christmas is about as christian as my penis.

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Originally Posted by Roufuss

And a Kwanza...um...what the hell is that holiday, anyways, besides christmas for african americans? Never heard about it until a few years ago.

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Here's what wikipedia has to say about Kwanzaa.

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Originally Posted by wikipedia.org

Kwanzaa is a celebration of life and the up life of human beings based on the principles of African culture. It is celebrated by some African Americans between December 26 and January 1, and is a week long celebration. Kwanzaa was created in 1966 by Dr. Mulana Karenga/Ron Karenga (born Ron Everett), a professor and chair of the Department of Black Studies at California State University, Long Beach. Karenga is an author and activist who stressed the indispensable need to preserve, continually revitalize and promote American culture through African rituals. Dr. Karenga is chairperson of the organization US.

Kwanzaa was established in aftermath of the Watts, California Watts Riots. This series of riots was due to police brutality viewed by citizens. Black Liberation, Black Freedom Movement the 1960s (see Black Power), and reflects that movement's concerns for African-American cultural groundedness in thought and practice (commonly referred to as 'black pride'), and the community and self-determination associated with this.

In May of 1971 Karenga stood trial for torturing two dissident members of his cult. Both Deborah Jones and Gail Davis described how Karenga had demanded that they strip naked. The naked women were then whipped with electrical cords and beaten with a karate baton. Detergent and a gushing hoses were forced into their mouths. Ms. Jones had one of her toes clamped in a vise. Karenga's supporters forced a hot electrical soldering iron in to Ms Davis’ mouth. Similar treatment of Jones and Davis continued for two days. Karenga was convicted and served more than three years in a California State prison.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

What is this nonsense? Just because people of all other religions want in on the beauty of Christmas and whine about being left out doesn't mean poeple should cater to the pussies.

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POTY

i can only think of kwanza bot... "Ain't no one down with this kwanza tip..."

I propose they erect the festivus poll next year.

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Originally Posted by basemies

In May of 1971 Karenga stood trial for torturing two dissident members of his cult. Both Deborah Jones and Gail Davis described how Karenga had demanded that they strip naked. The naked women were then whipped with electrical cords and beaten with a karate baton. Detergent and a gushing hoses were forced into their mouths. Ms. Jones had one of her toes clamped in a vise. Karenga's supporters forced a hot electrical soldering iron in to Ms Davis’ mouth. Similar treatment of Jones and Davis continued for two days. Karenga was convicted and served more than three years in a California State prison.

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I don't know about Kwanzaa, but I like the way this guy takes care of business.

I thought my ears were decieving me but I guess it's true.

And to think this all started with things like the Pledge of Allegiance.

"Holiday Tree" my ass.

Kwanzaa is a cultural thing. If it's excluded from all of the PC celebrations of Christmas and Chaunaka, so what?

When's the Holiday Menorah coming out? Oh, NEVER? Okay.

I'm still calling it the Christmas tree, because that is what it is. Political correctness, my non-existant left nut.

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Originally Posted by Mman

Christmas is about as christian as my penis.

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Is that a round about way of telling us if you are circumcised or not?

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Originally Posted by Galaxia

I'm still calling it the Christmas tree, because that is what it is. Political correctness, my non-existant left nut.

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And is that an indirect way of telling us that you're flying with only one engine?


This thread has been very informative about our genitals.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

This thread has been very informative about our genitals.

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You leave her genitals out of this.

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Originally Posted by TrialSword

You leave her genitals out of this.

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That makes much more sense.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

This thread has been very informative about our genitals.

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Can it tell me how mine work?

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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

Can it tell me how mine work?

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Yeah, to activate it you have to stick it in a blender.

Festivus for the rest of us!

Can I perform the feats of strength?

Kwanzaa Bot's book "What the Hell is Kwanzaa?" came to mind when I first read about this, that, and South Park's non-denominational all-black attire celebration.

Political Correctness is the worst thing to ever happen. Ever.

I hope anybody that is offended by "Christmas Tree" dies the night before their child gets married.

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Originally Posted by Master

Political Correctness is the worst thing to ever happen. Ever.

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So you're saying it's worse then the rise of facism and the consequent holocaust, that's so insensitive.


irony rawks

What most people have come to think of as political correctness is in fact political pandering. Basic political correctness is a good thing, and so is knowing how various groups of people feel about themselves and their position in the world. It's possible to be respectful and sypathetic without kissing ass, although few people in gov't or media seem to grasp this.

Kwanzaa is just another McHoliday, like the ones we have for secretaries and shit. It makes about as much sense as having a special holiday for all asians, or all native americans. You know, since all people from a given continent are pretty much the same, right? I'm sure Hutus, Tutses, Bantus, San, Massai, etc. all like being lumped together in one big, black group.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

What most people have come to think of as political correctness is in fact political pandering. Basic political correctness is a good thing, and so is knowing how various groups of people feel about themselves and their position in the world. It's possible to be respectful and sypathetic without kissing ass, although few people in gov't or media seem to grasp this.

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How dare you question my broad generalization and drastic overstatement, then split hairs even though you understand the original meaning of my post. Do you think me an ignoramus, sir? Because it would seem that way, and I am offended easily.

Not really.

If you want to be PC that is fine, but if I say midget and you correct me (Little People my ass) you are getting punched in the dick. Live and let live for fuck's sake.

I think we're on the same page. Midgets deserve to be treated with just as much respect as the rest of us, but nothing will change the fact that they're mdgets.

And yeah, the term 'Little People' is just stupid. If someone has a problem with the term midget because it's technically inaccurate, fine, but I don't consider it offensive or derogatory in any way.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

I'm sure Hutus, Tutses, Bantus, San, Massai, etc. all like being lumped together in one big, black group.

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Well, Afrocentrism IS racism. I mean, I've seen an Afrocentric documentary where the African-American narrator was talking about how his homeland was "Kemet" (Egypt) and how proud he was of his "ancestors" making such great things as the pyramids. I mean, I find that deeply saddening, that someone feels such a void in their cultural background that they are willling to divorce themselves from the truth that most of the trans-atlantic slaves were taken from sub-Saharan Africa; and they will ignore their real ancestory (southern and middle africa) for an largely unrelated culture that is seen as more grandiose.

Race has always been a slippery slope.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

And yeah, the term 'Little People' is just stupid. If someone has a problem with the term midget because it's technically inaccurate, fine, but I don't consider it offensive or derogatory in any way.

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I did a whole COMPULSORY course on politically correct language in University. It was so frustrating, that now whenever I see someone in a wheelchair I feel like screaming at them "HEY PARAPLEGIC SUFFERER, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE CONFINED TO A WHEELCHAIR.

Political incorrect language in red.

It was SUCH bullshit.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

Well, Afrocentrism IS racism. I mean, I've seen an Afrocentric documentary where the African-American narrator was talking about how his homeland was "Kemet" (Egypt) and how proud he was of his "ancestors" making such great things as the pyramids. I mean, I find that deeply saddening, that someone feels such a void in their cultural background that they are willling to divorce themselves from the truth that most of the trans-atlantic slaves were taken from sub-Saharan Africa; and they will ignore their real ancestory (southern and middle africa) for an largely unrelated culture that is seen as more grandiose.

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Why Egypt, I wonder? Great Zimbabwe would make more sense.

I once heard a girl call herself a 'nubian princess.' Her family came from Ghana. Oh well, it's not as bad as the 'africanesque' names that so many parents stick their kids with, or the revisionist african history put forth by the Nation of Islam. Man, being black must be a real bitch.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

Why Egypt, I wonder? Great Zimbabwe would make more sense.

I once heard a girl call herself a 'nubian princess.' Her family came from Ghana. Oh well, it's not as bad as the 'africanesque' names that so many parents stick their kids with, or the revisionist african history put forth by the Nation of Islam. Man, being black must be a real bitch.

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*stands up*

What's a nubian?

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Originally Posted by kedawa

I think we're on the same page. Midgets deserve to be treated with just as much respect as the rest of us, but nothing will change the fact that they're mdgets.

And yeah, the term 'Little People' is just stupid. If someone has a problem with the term midget because it's technically inaccurate, fine, but I don't consider it offensive or derogatory in any way.

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Midget is considered a duragatory (sp) term. It goes back to the times of circus side shows. It's all dwarfism, there's just a few hundred types of it.

I can name about a million terms that started as derogatory and are now the common term. "Squaw" for instance (when referring to a female Indian girl) literally translates to a derogatory term for the female genitalia.

By the way, just because a term is politically correct doesn't mean you won't get into trouble. Negroid is the correct scientific term for black people, but I dare you to start using it in public. The word niggardly is a fine term, but most people don't know that. Most midgets I know get more offended by the term "dwarf" which is technically the correct term.

Basically, people consistently want what they are called to change because they associate the negative attention they get on the words that are used. They give certain words power and as such, they want the words to change every now and then so they can stop associating them with negative experiences. If they called midgets little people in the carnivals when they were sideshows, they would all get getting offended by the LP term and they would be asking us to call them midgets.

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Originally Posted by Master

I can name about a million terms that started as derogatory and are now the common term. "Squaw" for instance (when referring to a female Indian girl) literally translates to a derogatory term for the female genitalia.

By the way, just because a term is politically correct doesn't mean you won't get into trouble. Negroid is the correct scientific term for black people, but I dare you to start using it in public. The word niggardly is a fine term, but most people don't know that. Most midgets I know get more offended by the term "dwarf" which is technically the correct term.

Basically, people consistently want what they are called to change because they associate the negative attention they get on the words that are used. They give certain words power and as such, they want the words to change every now and then so they can stop associating them with negative experiences. If they called midgets little people in the carnivals when they were sideshows, they would all get getting offended by the LP term and they would be asking us to call them midgets.

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True enough. It just depends what year it is that designates what is and isn't a "dirty" word.

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Originally Posted by Master

I can name about a million terms that started as derogatory and are now the common term. "Squaw" for instance (when referring to a female Indian girl) literally translates to a derogatory term for the female genitalia.

By the way, just because a term is politically correct doesn't mean you won't get into trouble. Negroid is the correct scientific term for black people, but I dare you to start using it in public. The word niggardly is a fine term, but most people don't know that. Most midgets I know get more offended by the term "dwarf" which is technically the correct term.

Basically, people consistently want what they are called to change because they associate the negative attention they get on the words that are used. They give certain words power and as such, they want the words to change every now and then so they can stop associating them with negative experiences. If they called midgets little people in the carnivals when they were sideshows, they would all get getting offended by the LP term and they would be asking us to call them midgets.

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The negroid dwarf walked niggardly toward the squaw, over the lazy dog.

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

The negroid dwarf walked niggardly toward the squaw, over the lazy dog.

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You forgot to add that he felt gay and the dog looked at him queerly.

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

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Originally Posted by Master

I can name about a million terms that started as derogatory and are now the common term. "Squaw" for instance (when referring to a female Indian girl) literally translates to a derogatory term for the female genitalia.

By the way, just because a term is politically correct doesn't mean you won't get into trouble. Negroid is the correct scientific term for black people, but I dare you to start using it in public. The word niggardly is a fine term, but most people don't know that. Most midgets I know get more offended by the term "dwarf" which is technically the correct term.

Basically, people consistently want what they are called to change because they associate the negative attention they get on the words that are used. They give certain words power and as such, they want the words to change every now and then so they can stop associating them with negative experiences. If they called midgets little people in the carnivals when they were sideshows, they would all get getting offended by the LP term and they would be asking us to call them midgets.

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I feel that all other cultures should quit calling mine white, racist, or honky. I don't like the negative experineces that go along with those words.

From now on me and my ilk wish to be called Godidums. Strike that, I want us to be called Betterthanyou Americans.

Why do we call black people African-Americans if they've never lived in Africa or weren't even from Africa in the first place?

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Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal

Why do we call black people African-Americans if they've never lived in Africa or weren't even from Africa in the first place?

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becuase people ar stupid, even black people

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Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal

Why do we call black people African-Americans if they've never lived in Africa or weren't even from Africa in the first place?

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If anyone here uses the term "African American", then they might as well go buy their "Holiday Tree", because it is the same damn thing. As for my white ass, I'll keep calling them black and Christmas trees.

When they stop erecting any kind of tree, be it a Christmas tree or Holiday tree or whatever, then I'll care. Call me when that goes down.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

becuase people ar stupid, even black people

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Exactly.

btw spelling always helps. :]

I'm still unsure about the term Jew, like, it used to be kind of a slur but now it seems like it's acceptable to use. I still feel kind of uncomfortable using it though so I just say Jewish most of the time, unless it makes my sentence sound really awkward.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I still feel kind of uncomfortable using it though

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That's because Stone calls us anti-semites and beats us in Street Fighter really badly if we say "Jew." Heh.

I have no problem saying anything anymore. I used to be one of those wimps who was like, "We should respect everyone!" Now, it's like, whatever you [insert slur]. I should note that I would never use that sentence and its appropriate slur around a black person (not because I'm afraid of hurting their feelings but because I'm afraid of pain).

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I'm still unsure about the term Jew, like, it used to be kind of a slur but now it seems like it's acceptable to use. I still feel kind of uncomfortable using it though so I just say Jewish most of the time, unless it makes my sentence sound really awkward.

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I prefer the term "Heeb".

Heeby Jeeby

Kwanza is a made up american holiday for blacks, its a racial holiday made up by some ex con who admits now that he made it up and that it doesn't come from africa. In fact if you go to africa and mention kwanza they wont know what the fuck youre talking about. This guy couldnt even think of his own holiday symbols he had to borrow them from jewish people. Hmm lets see lets see during kwanza you light a different candle every night and give presents and the candleholder is called a kinara, (rhymes with menorah) Hmm sounds familiar..... :wtf:

While "Holiday Tree" is a bunch of retarded shit, pretty much all Christmas traditions, like the tree, mistletoe, and yule logs are directly ripped from Celtic and Norse pagan celebrations of the winter solstice. We should just split the difference and call them "Thor-can-kick-your-fucking-ass Trees".

Heh.. erect is in the titttle.. ..

Thanks for appreciating my subtle humour.