http://waroftheworlds.com/
Check it out, the trailer looks kind-of neat.
Tom Cruise is in it, and Spielberg is making it. . . This is a good thing right? I loved Minority Report, but it wasn't such a touchy subject.
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http://waroftheworlds.com/
Check it out, the trailer looks kind-of neat.
Tom Cruise is in it, and Spielberg is making it. . . This is a good thing right? I loved Minority Report, but it wasn't such a touchy subject.
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Meh. This movie should've been done years ago.
This is going to suck.
Did anyone catch how grammatically incorrect most of the narrating was?
Every five seconds, it was "and....and....and...and.." in an effort to sound faux-philosophical and creepy.
That trailer did nothing for me.
That's just a teaser, next to nothing is done on this.
I know a guy who's going to be an extra in this, he's pretty excited because Tom Cruise is a dream boat.
He's a midget Scientologist with too many teeth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
Spielbergs name doesn't mean anything anymore. Just another cliched mediocre movie i won't see.
I hope this movie makes up for Signs.
...which Cruise and Speilberg had no part in :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by VIDEODROME
Sorry I guess I could have phrased that better. I am aware Signs was a M. Night movie and not Spielberg.
I'm just saying Signs was a flawed movie and I'm hoping Spielberg and Cruise and make a better alien invasion film than M. Night's movie.
Who the hell is Videodrome? Is it Videodrone or a wanna-be?
wanna-be.
Videodrome is a really, really fucking awesome movie by David Cronenberg. I doubt there's any intentional relation to Videodrone here.
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Originally Posted by bbobb
I'll be Cruise's wingman anytime.
Signs was a really good movie and I would have sexual relations with Tom Cruise.
First off, READ the original H.G. Wells novel which is set in 1800s England. It is a bit slowpaced at first but when it picks up is a mindblowing novel. One of my favorite parts is a long sequence where the main character is trapped in a dilapidated house with no food while an alien slowly enters menacingly through a debris hole at one point.
I am a bit confused about Spielberg making it. Why confused you say? It IS honestly confusing because he always used to say in interviews that he never wanted to make an alien themed movie besides ET where the extraterestrials were evil, so I kinda did a double take when this was first announced.
One thing that bugs me is that one of the main characters will be a little kid (Dakota Fanning who is a bit of an alien child herself methinks), so there's the probable fact that Spielberg will water down a bit of the fright that way. (oh man did Ian's spazzy daughter have a 50/50 part in destroying The Lost World or what?!)
But the trailer looks awesome so far, it has a very old school alien B movie feel to it but not in a cheesy way, but in a frighteningly appropriate 1930s radio WotW kinda way. Anyways, liked Minority Report a lot so I will be optimistic.
Speaking of the 1930s Orson Welles radio show, my grandpa clearly remembers hearing it with his brothers way back when it was aired. He said at first they DID think it was rea,l but before the joke was revealed they could already sorta tell it was a prank(which is much less than some people who actually killed themselves in at least a few cases, one lady poisoned herself IIRC, it lead to a new law and everything)
That's a pretty cool tidbit. I never really thought about the impact it would have on simpletons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosh_H
Yeah, it's been widely documented about the panic it caused in a lot of people. Of course, mainly a *few* people actually killed themselves but it caused more than a little pandemonium in some areas, believe you me. Lots of people were calling the police worried, asking what they should do, arming themselves, ect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
And I dunno about the people who killed themselves being outright dummies. Back then when all the news media you have besides newspaper and movie newsreels is radio (factor in that the only comedy/"pranking" in media was um, Amos and Andy and Fibber McGee and Molly?) and a man comes on the wire *pretending to be a reporter on site* doing a reeeaaally good job acting like he is witnessing a rural area of NY state having a violent encounter with a deadly space creature (making it out to be a REAL news story, nothing like that had ever been done before in radio or mass media), you might have gotten a little nervous too. :p Different times and a totally different pre-information age. The concept of aliens/sci fi itself was still relatively new.
Speaking of Fibber McGee and Molly, remember the Newsradio when Mr. James bought everyone sports cars for XMas but just got Matthew (Andy Dick) Fibber McGee and Molly tapes? lol I won't spoil the ending which is a nice twist.
I have the original broadcast on my computer, it's amazingly acted. But they announce that it's a show at the very beginning, but never again until the very very end. God I love Orson Welles.
too bad after his career went down the shitter he didn't go back to radio.
But yeah, apprently police came, and the station head came in his pajamas to the recording studio and they told Orson to tell everyone it was just a show, and he said "No fucking way man."
They started off with some nonsense, and timed the "breaking news bulletin" of the alien invasion just as their huge rival radio show took a commercial break. Fucking brilliant. Everyone flipped channels to skip the commercials and wound up in the middle of their fake news of the alien invasion.
Most people listened to a different show that was on at the same time, so they didn't hear the initial statement that it was a show. You have to realize that back then all phone calls went through an operator. It was hard to get information around. Today this would never happen even without the law because everyone who knew it was just a show would call other people, post online, or people with cell phones would call someone and figure it out.
if your looking forward to War of the Worlds be ready for a little wait inbetween, we got a new updated release schedule at work (work at one of the biggest theaters in the OC) and it lists
War of the Worlds Volume I
War of the Worlds Volume II
That's news to me.
Orson Welles is an ass. If it wasnt for him pulling this little stunt,and making people scared of aliens, the government would have told us about Roswell,Area 51, and the little green men from the Alpha Centauri system a long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosh_H
lol Never thought of it that way. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
So the movie will be split into two parts? Crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RDM Brian
Also, I forgot some ultra-indie little film company made their own 19th Century WotW movie based closely on the book. Saw it months ago linked offa Dark Horizons. Gonna see if I can dig up a link...
EDIT: Here it is, very low budget but it's supposed to be a direct adaptation and looks interesting, a gallery at this link:
http://www.pendragonpictures.com/WOTWpic1.html
Figured I'd bump this up as I rented the 1953 film version which I have never seen. Gonna watch it with friends tonight. Can't wait. I'll post impressions tomorrow. One cool thing is I know one of the characters is named Dr. Clayton Forrester which is where MST3K got the name for Dr. F. :D
Heh, I saw it on AMC once, it's pretty... well, yeah it's a 1953 science fiction movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kosh_H
Oh and I'm not sure if I could get over the really terrible CG that's in that indie adaptation of the novel. It's pretty bad. Looks kinda cool other than that.
OK, watched the movie last night with two friends after we watched MST3K. The MST3K was Riding With Death, made in the late 70s. Guess which movie ended up looking much, much better? Yup, the movie from 1953.
Simply put, War of the Worlds is a great movie. The special effects are surprisingly good for an old sci fi movie. I love the way the ships just slowly and eerily hover and mow everything down. My favorite part is when Dr. Forrester and his girlfriend are in a half dilapidated farmhouse while the aliens try to find them. The acting is good too, except for when the Dr.'s gf freaks out whenever she sees an alien, she sounds like an overacting spaz.
Now I know why Spielberg praised this movie in a recent interview.
The man knows how to tell a good story. It may be old school, but it's still usually good.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
What Andrew said. Obviously there's a bit of overhyped "lore" surrounding his name now after all these years but he still makes good films and that's what counts.
One thing I like about WotW is that Cruise's character is just an everyday dockworker with a family. So it seems Spielberg is going back to his "working class character" movies like he used to with Jaws and Close Encounters.
If you can name three of a director's good movies than that man has talent.
Henceforth, Speilberg has talent, and this movie has a reasonable chance.
End o' story.
reviews coming in FROM GERMANY
http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=20477
Should we believe ze Germans?
I'm seeing it tomorrow. The reviews have been good so far. See www.rottentomatoes.com
Fuck those jew burning motherfuckers.Quote:
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Anyone else used to watch the WotW TV show with the dude from Predator? That and "V" made for a fun childhood. I want to see this, but I also hope it is dark. I like Speilberg, but he is a mainstream Hollywood director, so I fear that it will follow the Hollywood layout a bit too much. I'm sure Dakota Fanning won't die, it would be cool if she did and Tom and the world was destroyed by Aliens. That would be a good modern adaptation. But you know it's gonna end all happy...even if it is based on the book, I say take liberty and give us a dark, somber film with no happy resolution...
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I just got back from seeing it:
7/10
The movie starts off so fucking strong. I love the concept of humanity's complete impotence in the face of such a threat. The alien ships looked very cool, their weapon was awesome, and that sound they made before they began their slaughter was very, very cool. I felt that the scenes with the people running away from the machines felt very real, and I wondered what I would do in such a situation.
Then it all fell to shit when Tim Robbins had to pop his head into this and drag the whole movie down with his presence. That little speech his gives was so dumb. The entire sequence with them in the basement with him should have been cut out. Robbins single handedly brought the movie down in my eyes.
As for the aliens themselves I thought that they looked alright, but I thought that they would have had more impact if we didn't get to see them until the very end of the film. I didn't feel that having them go down into the basement added much tension. The probe managed to achieve that nicely.
Then there's the ending, I know that they followed through with it just like the original, but it still doesn't change the fact that it's an unsatisfying deus ex machina. I really wish this movie had ended on a sour note. I want to see a movie just like this in which humanity doesn't stand a chance in hell and is eventually wiped out, because if this were to really happen we would never win. The son should not have survived. Plus, I wasn't too keen on the narration that bookened the movie. Maybe it was morgan freeman's stilted delivery that did it (they some other, much better guy read that same opening speech in the trailer, and he sounded much cooler), but having it there felt odd.
My friends hated it, but for other reasons than I listed. They thought the effects were weak, and they hate that Dakota Fanning acts like she's 28 years old in all of her movies.
Oh, an as an interesting aside: if the EMP wiped out all the technology, how did that guy have a working digital video camera during the rise of the first machine?
Spoilers at the end of review____________________________________
Quick Mini review of War of the Worlds…..
War of the Worlds really captivated me while watching it. It showed what an average American person/family would do in cause of such an event like an alien invasion. I mostly came out of the theater satisfied. The only thing that bothered me was the ending, but in Hollywood what do you expect I guess?
It pulled me in from the opening titles with a great introduction by Morgan Freeman. Pay close attention to him, and his speech because they have a very big significance in the film. Of course we see Tom’s character and how his life is, where he works etc. The relationship with his children is another excellent point in the movie. Strangely enough, sometimes it takes catastrophic events to bring people together.
I’m not going go into detail about what exactly takes place on screen but it all looks very amazing, terrorizing, threatening and disturbing when you see the tripods. The way they handle and “dispose” of humans should be enough at the beginning of the film to give you the feeling that “ We are all gonna die!”. Just the look on Tom’s face after the event is enough to show that what he saw was unbelievable and that he himself can barely believe he went through such an event.
A few things are left to be interpreted by the viewer such as how the Aliens could not have known about such bacteria on our planet. Basically for some reason we as a people and our society think that aliens in all their superiority can scan and detect anything anywhere at anytime. NOT SO. Yes they are technologically advanced 10 times of what we are but that does not mean that their “scanners” or what ever they would use to do a bacterial search on us, would pick up every single harmful bacteria to them.
This is an example I used on www.imdb.com,
“What makes you think that the technology we have can record and test and find every single micro organism on another plant? Surely could it be possible that one could go undetected because our technology can't do EVERYTHING?? Well the same would apply to the aliens. There was just something they did not detect and could not detect.
Just because they could have and probably did scan our earth doesn't mean they would find every single micro organism that could possibly harm them.”
So in my opinion this is a just means for a conclusion to the bacteria theory.
Minor spoiler
Now how they lost their shields is hard to explain. One could possibly say that since they where dieing in the ship they lost control over certain functions etc.
Few Spoilers ------------------------------------------------------------
Now the only thing that really bothered me was the ending. It was decent but I wanted to have that feeling of devastation. Having Tom’s son come back after we see the dramatic scene of a father letting go of his son is somewhat “hollywoodish” cheese. The ending would have been excellent if the viewer was left with a sense of lose but what they get is a fluffy ending.
I think the movie should have played out either two ways. One, his son is dead, he saves his daughter, her fiancé is dead, and now he might have a chance to reclaim some of what he has lost over the years. Especially with the bonding he and his daughter had over that period of time. THAT is the fluffiest the movie should have turned out.
Now the 2nd way it could have ended was with his son and his ex wife and husband dead. He plans to start a new life with his daughter who now he has bonded greatly with. Either ending would have worked better in my opinion.
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In the end I really enjoyed this movie and would recommend it to most movie fanatics especially science fiction ones. This is a movie that should not be missed. Excellent story, drama, directing and special effects. Watch the movie as if you personally were experiencing it. It makes the movie even more intense!
8/10
Regus: Emps don't work on technology that is turned off.
I am going to read your reviews tomorrow night (i'm seeing it tomorrow) but so far everything sounds favorable. I enjoyed Minority Report and The Terminal.
I liked everything pretty much...but the ending. WTF! There seemed to be no real payoff. Like someone said before, somebody should have died. If the son didn't come back or mommy was roasted I would have felt less cheesed at the bacteria death shit. I actually thought to myself that something gay like bacteria or sickness would kill the aliens when they showed the amoeba at the start of the movie. I recommend the movie though. I even liked all the effects.
I wonder if Steven is a fan of Half Life 2?
I thought the same exact thing! One of the greatest parts of the game too.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog007
My quick take on the movie:
Awesome until Tim Robbins shows up. His character didn't bother me much, but that is just about the point where the movie takes its turn for the worse. There's just too much bullshit. Too many lucky breaks for the characters and an ending that just ruined everything. And Dakota should get an award for playing the most annoying bitch in cinema history. There are times when you just want to slap her and tell her to shut the fuck up. Just...I can't describe how irritating she was.
Complaints and swearing follow below!
Look, there is no fucking way the son should have lived. Anything at the top, or over the side of that hill was fucking DONE. And there is no way that the mother and the rest of them were ok. Did you see that neighborhood? It was right in the city but was untouched aside from some crumpled up newspapers in the street! And the fucking ending! These bastards buried those tripods a long time ago, can blast the pilots into them with fucking light but they don't account for our bacteria? WTF were they doing that whole time? Just leave that shit on the planet and come by some time later to fuck shit up? What the fuck was the point of spraying our blood? Would that change the atmosphere or some bullshit? The pilots of the tripods were breathing our air? There was no second wave for back up? There must have been more to send the pilots down. For being so advanced, these were some dumb fucking aliens. I could deal with Signs "ACK WATER!" aliens, but this was just too much. It would have been a much more satisfying movie with a downer ending, which is exactly how things were headed.
On the plus side, ILM was on the top of their game. Insane effects throught the whole thing. Beautiful looking movie with some (of course) fantastic direction.
Good flick. Hell of a lot of tension!
I felt it followed the spirit of the book very well; the ending was the same there, too. The film and the novel both hit the same beats, so I can't complain. (I sort of ignored the kids; they're the protagonist split into different parts, as far as I'm concerned.)
Seriously, when he went off on his little speech I lost it. Me and you are pretty much on the same page about this movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Oh wow, the ending doesn't explain everything! Neither did the novel. "How come the super smart aliens didn't know this-and-that?" Maybe cuz that's how all combat works in real life, there is a surprise around the corner and mistakes and mis-calculations are made on both sides. If you wanna get really broad, look at how Hitler lost WWII with his last minute bad planning and how it should have been obvious that he shouldn't have fought a two front war and gone after Russia. In Well's book the aliens also "weren't smart enough/omniscient" to know this-and-that either. I'm mainly worried about the ending contradicting a main plot thread. The heck with 'net nit picking. And if you want to find out "why" the aliens were after earth, David Koepp (the screenwriter) simply said "Like anyone else, I think they are after land, our water and resources."
And you say Dakota Fanning doesn't die? Well she IS in a spielberg film which has a central thread about a deadbeat dad trying to keep his kids alive, so yeah, whatta shocker his kid lives. Never mind the fact it's still being called the most "visually brutal" fantasy/sci fi film Spielberg has ever made.
While avoiding spoilers, I predict I will like it. Cuz if the ending is that bad, and in the eyes of fellow 'net fans the whole movie is ruined, based on my little net expectation gauge thingy I'm sure I will be seeing it 2-3 times.
And as long as it at least partly mimics the ending of Well's excellent book itself (which doesn't exactly have an *wow zing* revelation at the end other than *spoiler* germs killed them)
But yeah, the more footage I see for him, i worry that casting Robbins was dumb. James Cromwell would fit the mysterious, wacko farmer bit so much better and he has such a cool voice.
Anyways most reviews are saying as long as you don't mind detailed character development it is very enjoyable and dark.
Here is a snippet from darkhorizons.com (watch out for some spoilers if you read the whole review):
http://www.darkhorizons.com/reviews/war-n.php
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Make no mistake though, this is not a happy blockbuster - "War of the Worlds" is a bleak and desolate movie in a hardcore unrelenting way. In fact "Saving Private Ryan" (with the exception of its opening 20 minutes) is in many ways a 'nicer' Spielberg film than this. Its not an R-rated film but pushes damn close to that boundary and is more shocking than some with the stricter rating such as the last few minutes set within Robbins' basement which involves both a brutal act and a hideous revelation about the somewhat mishandled 'red weed' element. Even quieter scenes ranging from Dakota's shocking discovery whilst taking a piss to little moments of people caught in collateral damage cause chills.
Performances are strong all across the board too. For the first time in ages Tom Cruise seemed to be playing someone other than Tom Cruise. Despite all the hype and somewhat ingratiating public appearances lately which haven't exactly been beneficial to his public profile, seeing him in action on screen again you realise the guy is a solid actor. In a role that's almost purely reactionary in tone and could be seen as somewhat hokey in other hands, Cruise brings a necessary gravitas. Kudos should go out to all the supporting cast too - Fanning finally seemed to be playing someone her age (albeit still too smart), Chatwin makes a rebelious teen character actually sympathetic, even Otto's tiny screentime brings some of the film's few smiles.
Like I said the only bum note is Robbins. Not because of the actor mind you, but more the character. Whilst Spielberg's film liberally borrows elements from plenty of other sci-fi great films, one wonders why he had to import the stereotypical gun nut style character with his incessant whinging - maybe to act as counterpoint to Cruise (if so he could've done a lot better).
Robbins does fine. Fuck the haters. If you've read the book, you know the score.
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I like Robbins, he is a very good actor. I am just thinking the main reason he got cast though is because he and Spielberg knew his prescence in the movie would annoy the NRA. :p
Hey, I can stand one speech as long as this is true:Quote:
Seriously, when he went off on his little speech I lost it. Me and you are pretty much on the same page about this movie.
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darkhorizons: The lack of character development won't be seen as a good thing by some, even if the film uses that to its advantage by never having these characters break out into unrealistic monologues spilling out background information. Its a simple no frills cautionary tale that's smartly told, no more or less.
lol, you're going to love this scene.Quote:
Hey, I can stand one speech as long as this is true:
Yet more reason to not take Ebert seriously as a movie reviewer:
Yes, because we all know that making a movie with "joyous" vibes was Spielberg's aim when he decided to make an alien flick where you see hundreds of people/bodies floating down the jersey river. He then goes on to review Land of the Dead which he gives a higher rating (probably has some babes in it he really digs, just put a bosomy woman in a film and Ebert's chances of giving it thumbs up skyrockets). The mind boggles.Quote:
"War of the Worlds" is a big, clunky movie containing some sensational sights but lacking the zest and joyous energy we expect from Steven Spielberg.
D'oh. Now u have me nervous. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Regus
Anyways, I hate to sound biased but the book is one of my fave novels ever. I was worried when Spielberg took it over but when i heard he gave it such a surprisingly gritty tone i got a lot more interested.
I walked out of this movie feeling nothing. I mean... it was alright. I doubt I'll ever have the desire to see it again, but I had a decent time. There was nothing spectacular about it to me, but it wasn't bad in the least. Dakota Fanning's screaming started to grate on me after a while, but I guess it was warranted. The early scenes with Tom Cruise running around the town when the first tripod surfaced were awesome, and a bunch that followed did a great job of conveying the panic and mass hysteria that'd probably occur if such a thing did happen. The fighting for the car scene was particularly good as well. I guess it's not really the kind of movie you need to see more than once. There's a good story to be told and lots of neat stuff to look at. The son surviving felt like a cheap copout in order to keep the ending from being too unbearably bleak after there was so much death and destruction in the movie already. Did this happen in the book? I've never read it.
All in all, I probably would have been just as happy seeing Batman again.
I completely agree with Grave, a second viewing of batman would of been money much better spent. I also think after the begining, which I thought was really good. His relationship or lack of with his kids and the start of the invasion was all cool. Then the movie just got really boring to me and then ended so fucking shitty that it does ruin the whole film. If that is how the book ends, then I guess it's not speilberg's fault but war of the worlds just sucks in general. I mean planning for a million years, do some fucking research. I'd give it a 5/10, completely average hollywood blockbuster, yawn.
I loved the first hour and a half, i was thrilled, i had chills, and stuff went boom but that ending just left a sour taste in my mouth.
7/10
The more I think about the ending, it feels kinda like Signs, only about 1/4th as shitty. I kept whispering to a friend of mine all kinds of bullshit weaknesses that would take the aliens down in a dramatic display. I was disappointed to find that we didn't even get a dramatic display... the movie just kind of went limp. Disappointing, definitely.
GREAT movie. It's really the first movie I've seen in ages I can say that about.
I only have ONE problem with the movie, and it'll sound weird- in a time where movies are getting too long (2 hours, 2 1/2 hours, etc.), War of the Worlds, at 2 hours, wasn't long enough. It was tense, gripping, dramatic, the characters were great, and it was never boring, but the ending came out of nowhere. I mean, the ending was completely spoiled for people who had seen the original movie or read the book anyway (as the exact same thing happened), but they probably should have built up to it a bit more. But then again, maybe leaving people wanting more is better than risking making the film too long, so whatever.
Also, I was expecting this to be an Independance Day rip-off, but it was anything but. At first I wanted to see more of the conflict between the military and the aliens, but in the end I liked how they just concentrated on how the invasion affected the average joe. I agree with Grave in that the flick reminded me of Signs, but better.
Also, the son totally should have been dead.
I went in with low expectations (just had a bad feeling), but came away plesantly suprised.
Yeah, that show rocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssbomberman
For real. It's like planning to go deep sea diving in a cardboard submarine.Quote:
Originally Posted by usagi
Dude, send down a couple test aliens and see how they react, it's not too hard. I mean what was the time frame here anyways. It felt like maybe a week, but I guess it could've been a month. It was just lame, but not as lame as the awesome family friendly hollywood ending. This movie reminds me of Day After Tomorrow and that is not a good thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I loved the movie, including the ending. I seem to be in the minority though. I saw it with three friends, and they liked the movie, but did not like the ending. Two of my friends thought the film should have focused more on the military, and less on Cruise's family. I disagree, but whatever.
I had pretty much zero expectations going into this, but ended up loving it.
The scene at the beginning where Cruise is running from the tripod and people are being disintegrated was awesome.
Am I the only one who liked the sound the aliens would make when they would come out the ground?
When you hear it , it's like a phycological truma in your head because you associat the sound to death, hopelessness and devestation.
I think it was a good idea to give the aliens or tripods their own theme.
I agree with you. I would have liked to have seen a bit more conflict, but too much would have made it like Independance Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by elfneedsfood
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Originally Posted by Zerohero
I liked it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
To be fair, ID4 is largely inspired-by/ripped-off of the original WotW novel and film.
Excellent movie! I am just thrilled and humble that I have been able to watch such a masterpiece. So far this is the best movie I have seen this century. I think this movie has appeal to all oldschool science-fiction purists, but the "cgi-fest generation" with their unholy love for the bastardized cross-genre mix of scifi&fantasy may not comprehend it. This could furthermore be the best remake of any movie ever.
I watched this movie in a drive-in movie theater in an abandoned gravel pit, whose setting further enhanced this this movies incredible tension. I was so psyched up that I speculated if a tripod would rise from behind the silver screen and destroy us all.
Spielberg is up there with Orson Welles and Hitchcock, Sir; I bow in the dust for thee.
Ps. See this flick in at a drive-in and bring plenty of popcorn and soda. Optional: bring a hot chick.
I wholeheartedly agree, best 'monster' sound ever. If the devil had a fog-horn, this is the sound it would make.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerohero
They also use the sound to rally their troops and signal impending attacks.
My only gripe about the intro/outtro narration was that it didn't make a whole lot of sense. First of all the narrator told us the aliens had "no emotions", next he tells us that they are "envious" of the human race? I don't know, but I always thought "envy" was a human emotion?Quote:
Originally Posted by TrialSword
No kidding. But there are a lot of people out there that never experienced the novel/50's film, so they'll probably end up comparing WotW to ID4.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
I would have liked to have seen more kinds of ships. That's really my curiousity more than anything. And keeping with the family for whe whole movie is what kept this from being like everyother alien invasion movie. One of the smartest decisions they made. Was it 2 hours long? It seemed like it was an hour 45 because after at least 10 minutes of previews my showing didn't start until about 8:55/9 and the credits were rolling at about 10:45. The build up for the ending could have been done better. It seems like the movie spans about 3 or 4 days and the ending just really felt rushed. All this drama and then literally the next scene the tides turn. Anyone else get the impression that the tripods were people powered? The whole pick 'em up and hold em before sucking them into the ship was weird.
wait so they werent supposed to be? I thought thats what they were, and thats why they sprayed shit everywhere, the waste from the fuel :XQuote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
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Originally Posted by RDM Brian
I thought it was a combination of nutruition and fuel. They eat humans and used them for fuel. I could be wrong though.
Hmm...I thought the red stuff they were spraying out was ground-up people. You know, as fertilizer for the red viney stuff.
Did the granade scene remind anyone of the Hoth battle in Empire Strikes Back when Luke blows up the AT-AT? :)
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Originally Posted by Dolemite
No but I thought that was going to be the way the movie was going to tell how we can beat them and I almost got mad lol.
Thats the impression I got. The Aliens trying to make the planet look like their own maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
The movie is still a giant cock tease.
Yeah, I assume that the red viney stuff was some type of terraforming agent. You know, like the Tiberium in Command And Conquer.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog007
I agree with this. I think the movie was pretty crummy. The story is cool and Cruise did a good job acting the part. My biggest complaint was all the completely rediculous shit that went on. The biggest offender being the house and neighborhood getting laid to waist to the point of a fucking jet liner airplane being in pieces all over the yard and surrounding properties. It didn't even look like any houses used to be there it was so destroyed. Then they get in the minivan that was right out front and it is unscathed not to mention has a clear path to drive out. WTF??!?! This movie was full of completely unbelievable shit like that and it ruined what was good about the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by usagi
Oh, I'm sorry they should have made it more realistic and had all the main characters die in the first five minutes. That would have been an awesome movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass Joe
Dolemite and dakidski have me completely psyched to see the film now, just 24 more hours to go when i will meet up with my friends outta town. The waiting is killing me. I also read that Gene Barry who played Dr. Forrester (now u know where MST3K got the name) in the '53 flick has a cameo somewhere in the movie.
(and is it just me or do more people in this thread need to read the book...?)
Anyways, saw Batman Begins last weekend which I loved (Bale was perfect), it is so cool Morgan Freeman gets to rock two sci fi/fantasy flicks this summer.
ALIENS KILLED DYLAN WHILE HE WAS TYPING!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
Anime girl: What you said, why does everyone have to die in order for a dark film to be "acceptable"?
Alien EMP got my keyboard. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
My impression of those machines; was that they were gianter harvestin/seeding machines they were using to terraform the land. They probably put the humans into some kinda blender and sprayed the remains all over the landscape. I am not sure though, who could possibly know what the aliens were trying to accomplish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerohero
I don't mind un-answered questions though, it leaves some for our imagination.
The two main characters of the original 50's movie have cameos in the very end of the picture where they play the mothers parents. They have no lines though, just an homage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
Ps. I hope we don't let you down! :)
PPS. does anyone have the tripod's foghorn sound as wav file? Its not on the official soundtrack.
Eh, you about summed it up for me. Right down to thinking that another go at Batman would've been more enjoyable/satisfying. As I walked out, I'm like, "Eh, that was so-so. Worth one viewing, that's about it... Damn, maybe I should've gone for that 2nd viewing of Batman I was planning on instead of spending money on the Scientologist... Ah well. The aliens were cool or something..."Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Because the shit they lived through was rediculous. It's not about everyone having to die, it's just having some shit the makes sense in the movie. No reason someone should you know, break an arm or something after falling 150 feet. When you see it, come back and talk about it. When you see the last stunt Robbie (the son) pulls, try telling me that he'd be ok. Where he was...just no. It just all adds up to make a really disappointing ending. And for the record I just wanted Dakotas character to die so the movie would be minus one seriously aggrivating character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
Yeah, see the movie and then try to say it's not lame. I don't need everyone to die, but in a movie where either you are dying or losing loved ones it was really weak that nothing happened to their family, including the boy wonder Robbie. It's like they had some super gay ass happy ending sheild and nothing could hurt them.
Yay, that'll be fun to watch again. Never having to worry about any of them dying. I don't know about you guys, but even when I know a charachter I like is going to die I still hope, although impossible, that he or she somehow lives. Someday Robert Deniro will shoot Al Pacino at the end of Heat, or so I hope.
I read it, but then again. I was in the fourth grade.Quote:
(and is it just me or do more people in this thread need to read the book...?)
Hey, am I the only one that thought of Gunstar Heroes when the flaming train flew past tom cruise?
I think so....Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
"These people live through impossible stuff!" It is a Spielberg sci fi movie, people, not a Ridley Scott film where we expect the central characters to gradually die or meet terrible ends. Again, Spielberg and Cruise have said repeatedly the movie was going to be about a man trying to save his family. So what is the big surprise here that Cruise saves his kids?
Again, read the book. In Well's novel the main character wanders all over the countryside surviving random attacks by the aliens, crosses paths with an artillery crew which gets wiped out by the tripods, he almost starves to death in a farmer's basement while one of the martians waits outside to eat them, and so on yet he still survives. Oh nooo. The lack of credibility just ruins the enjoyment.
I really am not getting this "nobody dies, it sucks" defense.
Lessee here, not spielberg per se but Star Wars OT: the only people that die are Obi Wan, Yoda and Anakin who are already old and up the creek. Everyone else lives.
Indiana Jones. An everyman who uses a whip to live through impossible melee fights both against man and machine.
Pretty darn good movies I'd say.
Saving Private Ryan: Tom Hanks doesn't die till the very end of the movie but in between survives "impossible" odds taking down countless platoons and machines.
Again, this just sounds more and more like good ole 'net nit pickin.' Unless Fanning does something really stupid like a gymnastic move on one of the aliens then I think it'll be OK. :D
And i again think it's funny how some are so outraged about the virus ending that it's "too simple." So obvious some of you peeps never bothered to read the book or to read up on the Orsen Well's radio play. Considering the novel was written 107 years ago, the virus/microbe ending was probably considered relatively cutting edge back then. Of course it's not so "amazing" a thought today but if Spielberg "updated" the virus/bacteria angle people would then be frothing that he "raped the book." Whatever.
Just 20 more hours. Gah.
Ah, cool. Thanks for pointing where to look for the cameo. The '53 flick was suprisingly well done for such an old sci fi movie. Watched it back in February.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakidski
Stop defending a movie you haven't seen. Once you've seen it you'll understand that our complaints are valid.
I'm not going to be using your complaints to gauge my enjoyment or lack thereof. I will be using Well's novel as my gauge. Good enough comparison source there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
Fuck the book. I watched a movie that, going by what others have said, is vastly different from the book anyway. The book and the movie are two different things and saying that "well, the book does this and this" doesn't mean anything because...we're talking about the movie. I've never read the book so I can only compair this movie experiance to other sci fi alien movies I've seen. Is anyone else here even compairing the book to the movie besides you? It's all great until a shitty ending that really takes away from the whole story. The ending is so fucking ubrupt and lame that I wish they had changed it to make it a better MOVIE. And that doesn't mean "everyone has to die".
Seriously, just watch the movie. I feel bad for you because when you do watch it your going to have all this shit swirling around in your head.
I recently read the the book (again) and it is pretty damn close. Are people so cynical these days that if the main characters don't die they feel cheated? They survived, oh fucking well, the whole point of the family is to put yourself in their place, to experience the events with them. Oh, and whoever said the opening narration had "bad grammar" it is word for word out of the novel. The book was written in 1898, a time where disease was a major concern for people, so yeah the ending does seem a bit antiquated in our immunized society. I think he was trying to stay true to the book and keep some semblance of a happy ending. It's not THAT happy, millions of people still died and most of the US (and around the globe) was decimated. Anyway, I really enjoyed the film, the special effects were insane, I have never seen such destruction captured so realistically on film.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I just got back from seeing it, but before I say anything, the 7:50 showing was soldout and the 8:30 showing (the one I saw it) was soldout. I can't believe 2 showings were soldout on a Thursday night.
Anyway, I'm too tired to write a review. I'm kind of confused on how I would grade the movie. The story and acting are superb. The movie istself was highly enjoyable, but when it reaches the end, it feels like Steven Spielberg got lazy and decided to end the movie at a random spot. Maybe if he added 10-15 more minutes or redid the ending, I could see this being a contender for best movie of the year.
I'll write a review tomorrow with more thoughts.
I don't understand why people don't like the ending. What more did you want? Tom Cruise flying in on an F-16 blowing up the aliens while rock music blared?
"Gene Barry will also be making a cameo appearance aswell as Ann Robinson from the 1953 George Pal film." :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
Yes, very likely. It was one amazing scene though, the kind of scene that stun an audience to silence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
Heh, did you just make a Will Smith joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
Seriously,
The only problem with the ending is that the son came back. Surviving imposible odds is not a problem. I mean it's still a movie thats what they are supposed to do.
I admit the minivan being unscratched and having a clear path to drive through was a bit silly, but you're right. It's a movie. Personally, I would have had the minivan at least damaged, but it's just one of those things you just shake your head at and say "whatever". I wouldn't call it a real complaint or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
I actually didn't even realize how silly the minivan thing was until it was mentioned here. I had no problem suspending my disbelief through out this whole thing, but come on, the stuff with the son was a bit much.
Then I have done my job. Master Spielberg will be pleased with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
If you need to continue your Morgan Freeman freakdown, he's the narrator for a documentary called March of the Penguins that's currently playing in select locations. I'm actually heading into Manhattan this weekend to check it out.Quote:
Anyways, saw Batman Begins last weekend which I loved (Bale was perfect), it is so cool Morgan Freeman gets to rock two sci fi/fantasy flicks this summer.
Quint got eaten by Jaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
Not arguing with you, I had no problem with Cruise and his daughter living but his son sure as shit should have been dead.
If I wanted to be a nit picking A hole about the movie I would ask where the heck did they get gas for the van???
You're right, you'd be a nit picking asshole if you asked that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerohero
:lol: You posted this as an argument for your side? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
I seriously could give a shit about people not dying. His son should have bit it, but I really didn't care that he didn't. For me it was all the shit that happened that really just never could under any circumstance. I know it's just a movie but when shit like that happens it takes me out of the world that I'm watching and it just ruins it for me.
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Originally Posted by Regus
Sure its not very belivable. But what do you want Spielberg to do? Lets say the van is destroyed, so they end up just finding another car or something. Or the vans fine and they end up trying to drive over rubble and get it stuck and just find another vehicle. Or not worry about that and have them just get in the van and drive off. Either they just move on to the next major event in the movie, or sideline it with them trying to find another car to drive.
I really enjoyed the movie, give it a 8/10. Only real problem is that the first half was much more exciting than the second. The ending was too sudden and too fast. But I did not have a problem with him reuniting with his son, they set up too much conflict between the dad and son just to have him die.
For me the biggest problem was how boring it was for the most part. I thought the movie started great. There was good character development, good tension, and then after the mob scene I was just bored. The boat crap was lame, the army coming was not exciting, the farm house sucked and reminded me of the first jurasic park when the kids were in the kitchen, the abduction was odd with their little pods, and the end, oh god the end. I don't hate the movie, but it is just so average and there is nothing in it to make me wanna watch it again. Except for maybe his son stepping out of the way of the baseball.
I think the concept of War of The Worlds works a lot better on radio or in a book. Maybe in a movie if it wouldn't have been set in modern time. I did think that how they die is too simple also. I understand that's how it was suppose to be, but come they last like 3 days. Fucking E.T. is stronger than that
This movie was "eh". I agree with usagi that the story is just...outdated I guess? You could tell the movie was trying for that sense of paranoia and "what's going on?!!" but whatever. Worked better as a book.
The best parts were of course the human parts, the parts focusing on the human reactions and interactions and confrontations. It got about as tense as...oh, say the tense parts in the village. Some scenes were really good.
Sometimes it felt like metal gear solid. Once I thought, though I haven't seen it, that watching everything get destroyed over and over again must be like watching Jesus get whipped for 2 hours in the passion of the crhist.
And his daughter was so fucking obnoxious. I say let the bitch die, movie better x3 get!
It's now 3/3 for Spielberg sci-fi movies this decade that I hate (Minority Report less so).
Excellent cinematography, editing and SFX, as expected from the Spielberg/Kaminsky/ILM trifecta. This movie will clean up in Oscar technical categories next year.
Why did the Aliens want the Earth?