Metal Gear Solid 4

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Originally Posted by MVS

We must be thinking of different ones. The one I'm thinking of did a long slow pan into Snake eating a snake while mutely yelling, which isn't gameplay. nor was the dogs chasing him off the waterfall (changed by the final release).

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That was a teaser not a trailer. He actually does that in game.

As a cut scene, yes.

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Originally Posted by MVS

As a cut scene, yes.

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Not only a cut scene they us "in game" graphics when you do it again.

You know what would be a great way to end it? Snake finishes whatever mission the game revolves around, then keels over dead... cut to a dark room. Someone lifts a VR headset off of a figure restrained in a chair. As it clears the face, we see that the figure is in fact a young Solid Snake. Big Boss - looking nothing like an older version of Snake, but rather the spitting image of Sean Connery - strolls up and says, "congratulations son, you're Foxhound material." Snake starts rambling things like "but you're dead, I killed you" "why don't you look like me if I'm your clone" and "how did I get young again." Boss replies "relax son. Everything that happened to you since the day you applied to join Foxhound was just a VR-manipulated dream. You experienced decades of field training and testing in a mere week. As for all that nonsense about clones and ghosts and conspiracies and bipedal nuclear tanks... you can blame that on the system programmer. Asian kid, think his name was Kojomo or something. Brilliant with the tactical simulations, but man, the ridiculous drama he insisted on inserting, I'm surprised you fell for any of it."

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Originally Posted by Zerohero

Not only a cut scene they us "in game" graphics when you do it again.

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What exactly do you think a cutscene is?

I think you are confused here.

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Originally Posted by LordPerrin

You know what would be a great way to end it? Snake finishes whatever mission the game revolves around, then keels over dead... cut to a dark room. Someone lifts a VR headset off of a figure restrained in a chair. As it clears the face, we see that the figure is in fact a young Solid Snake. Big Boss - looking nothing like an older version of Snake, but rather the spitting image of Sean Connery - strolls up and says, "congratulations son, you're Foxhound material." Snake starts rambling things like "but you're dead, I killed you" "why don't you look like me if I'm your clone" and "how did I get young again." Boss replies "relax son. Everything that happened to you since the day you applied to join Foxhound was just a VR-manipulated dream. You experienced decades of field training and testing in a mere week. As for all that nonsense about clones and ghosts and conspiracies and bipedal nuclear tanks... you can blame that on the system programmer. Asian kid, think his name was Kojomo or something. Brilliant with the tactical simulations, but man, the ridiculous drama he insisted on inserting, I'm surprised you fell for any of it."

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That would be lamer than making a MGS game where you play as Snake for 10% of the game. No small feat.

I'd rather to see Snake die simply die at the end of MGS4TW, give it some levity.

Bang4TW.

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Originally Posted by MVS

That would be lamer than making a MGS game where you play as Snake for 10% of the game. No small feat.

I'd rather to see Snake die simply die at the end of MGS4TW, give it some levity.

Bang4TW.

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Agreed. It would be fitting, and much more powerful. The ending of Bebop is still > *, because it didn't pull it's punches with lame bullshit.

And yeah, the first video of MGS3 (whether you consider it a teaser or trailer, it was the first video) was zero gameplay, despite being real-time.

Yeah, they could always go back and do some sort of game inbetween 2 and 4TW, in that case.

Bebop is tough to beat, the only thing that comes close is 24, when they put someone down on that show, they put them down and none of this EnsignsDieOnly shit either.

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Originally Posted by MVS

We must be thinking of different ones. The one I'm thinking of did a long slow pan into Snake eating a snake while mutely yelling, which isn't gameplay. nor was the dogs chasing him off the waterfall (changed by the final release).

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Even though it was technically all cutscenes, it still showcased aspects of the gameplay and the main premise. Keep in mind that most of the game's interface probably wasn't even implemented back then and alot of things changes from pre-release versions of the game.

I was under the impression that you meant whether the trailer focused on the storyline over the actual gameplay.

There was maybe, maybe a 90-10 split in favor of cutscenes, some of which were specifically made for the 1st trailer, such as the Motorcyle-Vice City joke and the When Is It Released Solider Interrogation Joke.

I have no doubt that the games interface was implemented back then, it would be silly to have cut scenes from the Dog Chase scene, which happened quite a few hours into the game, without any actual game up until that point.

The ultimate point is that the MGS games are always further along then what is shown and what is usually shown first is made up by a majority of cutscenes that is represntative of the final game.

Watching the GAF noob's whack their pack off at this thing was too funny. I think MGS4 looks awesome, but it didn't "Wow!" me like Killzone 2 did, regardless if one is real time or not. *shrug*