The plot in MGS2 was too deep for the average Metal Gear Solid player. Anyone who got it , and all it's intellectual thought loved it.
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The plot in MGS2 was too deep for the average Metal Gear Solid player. Anyone who got it , and all it's intellectual thought loved it.
LAWWWLLL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerohero
An analysis on genetics, evolution and informationQuote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
http://junkerhq.net/MGS2/Analysis.html
Small example,
Information Evolution
"That's all there is, information. Even a simulated experience or a dream; a simultaneous reality and fantasy. Any way you look at it, the information that a person accumulates during a lifetime is just a drop in the bucket."
Batou -- Ghost in the Shell
If you have not read the section about Evolution and Genetics, I suggest you do it before this one. Now we enter the main theme of the conversation and this essay: Who are the Colonel and Rose? It is obvious by now that Ghost in the Shell and Metal Gear Solid 2 share a common base, which is why I quote the following lines from "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins, written in 1976:
Raiden
"What, after all, is so special about genes ? The answer is that they are replicators. The laws of physics are supposed to be true all over the accessible universe. Are there any principles of biology that are likely to have similar universal validity ? When astronauts voyage to distant planets and look for life, they can expect to find creatures too strange and unearthly for us to imagine. But is there anything that must be true of all life, wherever it is found, and whatever the basis of its chemistry ? If forms of life exist whose chemistry is based on silicon rather than carbon, or ammonia rather than water, if creatures are discovered that boil to death at -100 degrees centigrade, if a form of life is found that is not based on chemistry at all but on electronic reverberating circuits, will there still be any general principle that is true of all life ? Obviously I do not know but, if I had to bet, I would put my money on one fundamental principle. This is the law that all life evolves by the differential survival of replicating entities. The gene, the DNA molecule, happens to be the replicating entity that prevails on our planet. There may be others. If there are, provided certain other conditions are met, they will almost inevitable tend to become the basis for an evolutionary process."
"But do we have to go to distant worlds to find other kinds of replicator and other, consequent, kinds of evolution ? I think that a new kind of replicator has recently emerged on this very planet. It is staring us in the face. It is still in its infancy, still drifting clumsily about in its primeval [primordial] soup, but already it is achieving evolutionary change at a rate that leaves the old gene panting far behind."
Have we ever confirmed this? I know the message appears after the VR missions, and confused the hell out of me until MGS2 when everything clicked, but I've never read anything concrete from Konami talking about GB's place in the series, just opinions. If anyone's made an official statement on it, I'd like to see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Undaunted
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Originally Posted by Grave
They sort of did.
*Main canon
**Big Boss Trilogy
***MGS3
***MG
***MG2
**Solid Snake Trilogy
***MGS
***MGS2
***MGS4
*Side-Stories
** MGGB
**Ac!d
**Ac!d2
It's deep in the same way The Matrix is "deep."Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerohero
so has it been confirmed that one character is Raiden? looks more like Ninja/Grey Fox to me.
Have you seen the trailer? They showed the name of the characters on-screen in big honkin' letters before they showed them. I think it's a safe assumption to say the guy they credited as Raiden is, in fact, Raiden.
Anyone can dress up like Grey Fox..An unwed mother Russian mercenary with hairy pits did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Your mom dress...Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
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Oh, nevermind.