What are you talking about? Stop spreading nonsense in the boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
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What are you talking about? Stop spreading nonsense in the boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
IDBTN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Am I the only one who thinks MS might 'delay' the launch of the Xbox Next if it gets smoked by the PS3 at E3, techolongy wise? Comparable at to what happened with the Saturn once the PSX was announced, hopefully minus Sega' s ineptitude. Is that even possible at this point, if we are really starting to approach the point of dimishing returns in terms of graphics (yay shitty NTSC output!)
-Dippy
So you and Opaque and others are saying you don't want any new consoles for almost another two years (Nov.- Dec. '06)?Quote:
Originally Posted by PBMax
We've had this discussion before (several times, in fact), but I'll say once again that I'll be more than ready for a new console in 9-10 months. Yes, great games can still be made on the current gen, but the stuff is looking pretty dated. 2 years more years of sitting on technology that is already lagging far behind current PCs is too long to wait in my book.
People are clamoring to drop $200 - $250 on a DS or PSP -- barely more than kid's toys, imo. In that context, I'm happy to spend $300 every 4 years or so on a brand new, cutting-edge console.
Hopefully MS can pull of good balancing act -- they need enough tech to stay competitive with later released consoles, while keeping the costs low for profitability. I assume they've given this more than a little thought...
The people that want 2006 are completely right. Yes, they can choose NOT to buy the new one when it comes out. But, what happens to those of us that play our old consoles is that we get less AAA games. That attention/money/development time is going towards the nextgen.
Some of the greatest games come out during the end of a generation's cycle. So if you can extend that period, theoretically, you will have more AAA games to play. Getting more bang for your console buck.
In the end, gamers get hurt. Instead of an awesome title for the current gen, the focus is shifted to the next gen to rush out an average title that can be ready for launch.
(Starcraft: Ghost (debateable if it will be a AAA title) is an example of the above theory.)
Amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
First, there is no guarantee that triple A titles will come out during a console's blue hair years. Second, a developer will look at their options when developing a game during a change over cycle. On one hand, toolsets are already in place for existing hardware, and a large consumer base is available if they publish on what's available now. On the other hand, they can probably spend more money to create a better product closer to their vision on the new hardware, have a smaller consumer base, and less competition for gaming dollars at a system's launch. Even if the XB2 was coming out next year, studios would have been making decisions based on those criteria since last summer. It's ultimately up to the studio to decide what platform they'll make their games for.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
THEORETICALLY. Or developers will be forced to release software that doesn't meet their vision and doesn't achieve AAA quality because today's hardware just can't handle what they want their game to do. Or they'll sit on their game until a console comes along that can do what they want to do.Quote:
Some of the greatest games come out during the end of a generation's cycle. So if you can extend that period, theoretically, you will have more AAA games to play. Getting more bang for your console buck.
Or, as I said above, developers bring out a game that has tons of wasted potential, because they couldn't accomplish what they wanted on existing systems.Quote:
In the end, gamers get hurt. Instead of an awesome title for the current gen, the focus is shifted to the next gen to rush out an average title that can be ready for launch.
Look at it this way: if Microsoft doesn't close the gap with Sony during the next generation, they'll most likely bow out of the video game arena. Then we'll be left with Sony and Nintendo, which basically means Sony (not dissing Nintendo here; they just go after the market they want these days). How would that be good for gamers? We need competion. The only way Microsoft feels it has a chance to beat or tie Sony is by coming to the new table a little early. I agree with them that it's their best chance.
Ultimately, no matter when a new console comes out, the developers will choose which system they want to focus their efforts on. Just because something new and shiny is coming doesn't mean that they'll drop what they're working on just to work on the new and shiny thing. That said, the Xbox is pretty much tapped out at this point. From a hardware aspect, it's always been a shallow pool for developers to play in.
I'll have nice new consoles with nice new games, so I won't be hurt one bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
The great "end of system's life" games, if they were planned to come out anyhow, will come out, as others have already said. The only difference is you won't have as many games between now and that point.
And seriously... for all of you bitching about new consoles coming out, have you played and beat EVERY game for the current systems that you have that you want to? If no, then you've no room to bitch. If you've played every single game you want to play, and only have three new games to look forward to because the new Xbox is coming out this year, then I'll be happy to listen to your complaints.
Exactly. This generation is over. 2005 won't be anywhere near as strong as 2004. Bring on the new hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Yeah, c'mon, any AAA games that were going to make this year would have to have been in development for a while. Anything that's been moved to next-gen consoles probably wasn't gonna make it out this year anyway, and therefore would have gotten moved to next-gen regardless of XB2's release.
Alternately, I could work gaming retail and not be able to escape the effects of a new console even if I wanted.Quote:
Yeah, here's an idea: if you don't want the new consoles so soon, then don't buy them. Games will still come out for your old, piece of crap system, and said system won't suddenly stop working.
Then, maybe, those of us who DO want the new systems can stop listening to your bitching.
I didn't get an X-Box until about a bit over a year ago, and I seriously doubt I'll be getting an X-Box 2 at launch. I think the games on X-Box 1 look more than just good, and I personally am just not feeling the need for a new piece of tech from Microsoft.
James