Can someone define "emo" for me? I have bits and pieces to work with, but I am not sure if they are accurate or complete. If pictures would help, feel free to post them as well. I'm not has hip as I used to be (and that wasn't very hip).
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Can someone define "emo" for me? I have bits and pieces to work with, but I am not sure if they are accurate or complete. If pictures would help, feel free to post them as well. I'm not has hip as I used to be (and that wasn't very hip).
You created this thread knowing that all you will get it links to Opaques member profile. Shame on you.
'Emo' is kind of a cross between goth, punk, and retarded
Back in the day, Brian Emo was a producer for Weezer and Talking Heads.
But with none of the toughness that being associated with punk might suggest.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dave
They also enjoy dressing like 60 year old college teachers, with some skate shoes and a 80s metal style belt for good measure. They need to be different, all together, in the same way, you see.
They also enjoy shitting on classic rock, while ripping off classic rock haircuts.
Sorry sqoon same guy but it's Brian Eno, he also has some solo stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
I hate them. All of them, especially if Opaque is one.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Really, ask Opaque how he feels about the rolling stones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
It's really sad that way of fasion has become so mainstream now. Many moons ago :lol: when I was in high school, punk rock/alternative/Skaters such as myself would dress like this and it was actually really different but now it's mainstream and you'll get called a scenester for it. :lol:.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Wow, youre really fucking cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAD73
I always looked at this way.
No matter what types of songs you write, if there is some kind of power ballad progression in there, you've just written an emo song.
Also even when your talking about animals or taxi-cabs, your really talking about girls.
man, I got really screwed over. I knew right after I got out of highschool, many of the things I liked fashion wise would become cool. I never win the fashion war. I was to late for 80s metal, and to old for the "OMG I'M A ROCKSTAR" 2000s.
the day I cut my hair short will be the day long hair is "in". The only reason being gay is cool now is probably because I dig chicks.
fuck songs about girls. Girls have enough songs about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
Kind of like long-haired, tattooed, metal elitist vegitarians? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
The kids that aren't cool enough to be goth are emo.
Since when was goth cool? Sure, the chicks are hot and generally put out, but that's about as good as that scene gets.
I don't know if that is a jab at metalhead's or not. But if it is I would like to say that the only really consistent thing in metal style is the long hair, and not even that is required. Hell, shaving your head is just as metal as long hair. Tight pink spandex is just as metal as dark earth toned pants. Ect ect.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Sure there are a lot of 16 year olds who dress in all black, but that has more to do with being an angsty bitch and/or hating preppie yuppie people than metal music.
It seemed pretty mainstream then too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAD73
Man, the styles changed so much during the time I was in high school. When I started in 1988 it was all mullets and tight jeans, then it went to MC Hammer pants and bowl haircuts, then to green/brown grunge clothes.
Anyone who doesn't like The Rolling Stones is not your friend and should be shot promptly.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Goth kids are just almost smart kids who hate the really dumb kids, and refuse to look anything like them. Teenagers hate all other teenagers, because all the other teenagers are stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tojo
The Rolling Stones make me physically ill. A lot of their music is kickass thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
Not a jab, just a joke. No need to equip your +1 spiked bracelet, buddy. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
The vegitarian thing I always like to bring up because it just boggles my mind how many metal bands have vegitarians / vegans in them.
those people are idoits. Vegitarians and vegans are people who apply christian ethics to animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
They have made their fair share of pretty vile music, they had a really fantastic streak between Beggar's Banquet and Exile on Mainstreet, then it... sorta died down. Some Girls is a pretty post-Exile album, but other than that most of their later stuff is pretty eh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
The funny part is most of them aren't Christian.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Or Humanist principles. I doubt very much the members of PETA are church goers.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Wow, these broad strokes of generalization are almost nauseating.
Especially when someone calls down from their ivory tower to complain about it, and yet in doing so becomes a part of the problem. :tu:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
Um...can you explain yourself further? And I do not know how I am supposed "solve" this problem other than point out the idiocy of the conversation.
Well, technically it is no longer humanism when you apply it to nonhumans.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
A person doesn't have to be christian to believe in christian ethics. They pretty much just need to grow up in the US.
Well, I'm glad you sat and thought about how you COULD try and solve it before you decided to stick your nose up in the air and act like you're somehow above it all. Real intellectual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
Well technically it can't be Christian either because most Christian theory says animals have no soul, and thus their lives are really meaningless other than to serve man.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
"Thou shalt not kill" is not a Christian invention.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Neither is the sanctity of animals.
That's the way that I like to keep things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
It's a fucking animal, it isn't sacred. It doesn'y give magical wishes and make me toast in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
Which is one of several completely horse shit beliefs that they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
Too bad you aren't douche bag!
Long story short, it's a style of music, a subgenre of punk. And, like punk, the style of dress has become associated with it. Look for: Horn rimmed classes, too-tight vintage t-shirts of something 70s or 80s, big boots, shit like that.
Good thing I dont give a shit what people think, then. I feel bad for those that do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass Joe
I am sad to report that I am a sucker for a girl in those goddamn glasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
oh BURN.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Originally Posted by Mr-K
Its because theyre effiminite glasses and girls look good in them. Have for the last 15 years.
<3 Lisa Loeb <3
They are kids who cry and write songs like their heros dashboard confessional.
They also are highly suspectable to commit suicide and I say go ahead! One less emo kid on the streets.
Dashboard Confessional is the #1 band for kids to kill themselves too! Now that's an awesome stat to have!
Cant be bad if it was previously held by Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
I'm way too cool for the Stones.Quote:
Anyone who doesn't like The Rolling Stones is not your friend and should be shot promptly.
That is true. He had a solo career though it didn't last very long after he formed E.M.O. Their biggest hit was Mr. Blue Sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAD73
The Rolling Stones fucking rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
And for once we agree on something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Sigh. I cant tell if anyone is being sarcastic or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
Anyways, Brian Eno didnt produce any Weezer records
He didnt form any band called E.M.O., which is actually E.L.O., the Electric Light Orchestra, which he wasnt a part of
and Mr. Blue Sky was not their biggest hit by a long shot. 'Evil Woman' probably was.
Don't lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
This is one of the greatest posts ever, and it's made better since Dave fell for it. It also saved us from that shitty metal/animal discussion that no one cared about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
Emo is one of the worst trends ever in the history of life, and it makes me really sad that I had to deal with girlfriends and friends that slowly got on the bandwagon. People are fucking stupid.
Also, I liked Ambient 1: Music for Airports.
Sqoon is awesome.
Did anyone mention girl pants, by the way?
Sacred in the sense that sentient life is sacred. You respect a certain sanctity of human life, no? And there are FAR more reasons to be vegan/vegetarian.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Anyways, back on topic- Emo began as a subgenre of punk/hardcore. It can be argued that the first emo band was Nation of Ulysses back in the 80's. Like most things when they break into the mainstream, what is commonly known as emo today actually bears very little resemblence to the emo of the 80's and 90's. What often surprises me is how few of these emo-scenesters today know anything of the history of that scene. As it is, most people who were involved in the emo scene then (which seemed much heavier and darker to me), don't really associate with what has come to be known as emo among mainstream scenesters and high school kids.
So basically emo= whining about girls.
Don't be too surprised. I am a fiscal conservative, not a religious one, though my morals in many cases align with Christians. I am a big animal/nature lover, so my political stances tend to be very Nixon-esque (he started the EPA afterall).Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Nixon pushed that policy out of public opinion. Im not sure he was exactly behind it or believed in it.
One time I complimented this chick on her specs. She told me they were non-prescription.
I never talked to her again.
So you're against abortion, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
What about Sunny Day Real Estate, aren't they considered original Emo?Quote:
Anyways, back on topic- Emo began as a subgenre of punk/hardcore. It can be argued that the first emo band was Nation of Ulysses back in the 80's. Like most things when they break into the mainstream, what is commonly known as emo today actually bears very little resemblence to the emo of the 80's and 90's. What often surprises me is how few of these emo-scenesters today know anything of the history of that scene. As it is, most people who were involved in the emo scene then (which seemed much heavier and darker to me), don't really associate with what has come to be known as emo among mainstream scenesters and high school kids.
So basically emo= whining about girls.
Good News; I have fake glasses too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
I haven't worn them more than like 4 times in the last half a year, though.
Kind of. They took what was a genre of hardcore and applied pop punk aspects to it, which in turn influenced a gazillion 'emo' bands we have running around today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
That's retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
What's the point of fake glasses? Are perfectly healthy kids going to start using crutches and walkers as fashion accessories next?
If it looked good, yeah. Glasses have a sort of power in them though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I'm not sure, mid to late 90's I think. But I really doubt you'll see many people at their shows now that you would have in, say, 1998.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
I think we should start implementing the generic star trek uniform soon.
Stop all this 'individualism' or make it like World of Warcraft where you got to get to level....err I mean age 20 before you can wear your own type of clothing.
oh this just made me laugh. then the Kane voice box things will be in style next with matching hearing aides. but they have to be the big old brown ones everyone can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
As someone who has to occasionally wear glasses, I resent this. Even if they do look hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
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Originally Posted by Kinopio
I do.
I have to wear glasses all the time, if I didn't have to I wouldn't.
Kinopio, what the fuck is your avatar of? It looks like some ugly chick with something like peanut butter and/or shit smeared around her mouth.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=14244Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Look how jealous all those kids behind him are.
That kid has huge shoes.
They're just pointing and laughing and calling him a douche.
Look at the shirt. Outrageously boring indie band Yo La Tengo. I've seen another picture like it, and it was baked beans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
What their punks who were glasses as a fashion statment. Fuck them I have to wear glasses becasue i cant see. they should be happy they have good eyesiight..
wtf.Quote:
Originally Posted by maruchan
punks as in punks.. not punks of punk music..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
We've angered the nerds!! Take cover.
PS - based on maruchangs last couple posts I am guessing he is drunk.
That's about the only part of your post I DID understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by maruchan
? Vegitarians? WTF - this is not associated with metal... unless you're Cattle Decapitation.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I think he is getting metalheads confused with hardcore kids.
What happened to when loser kids were just:
http://www.planetpunk.co.uk/forum/da...ihighskool.jpg
Now they gotta hide in this 'emo' form. Ugh.
Also, Emo kid dress reference:
Guys (or Gays): http://www.dobi.nu/emo/boys.htm
Girls: http://www.dobi.nu/emo/girls.htm
Emokid game: http://emogame.com/emogamemarch/index2004.htm
I've never heard of a fat Emo.
He is a loser kid from before. Emo kids are the losers now. I was just comparing the loser kids of the ages.
I played Planes Mistaken for Stars on the radio show I was doing last quarter. It was total garbage.Quote:
PLAYLIST
the early november
fall out boy
thursday
planes mistaken for stars
from autumn to ashes
engine down
really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...4&postcount=45
I'm ashamed of TNL. The first reply to this thread should have yeilded a picture of Opaque.
I don't think they're considered the original. But they are one of the early emo bands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
And still one of the best.
I doubt you'll see anyone at their shows... being that they're not together anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
The Fire Theft is the newest band with most of the Sunny Day members... but it's nowhere near as good.
pwned by IP.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
This just goes to show you: Opaque tries too hard to be cool.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...ad.php?t=29890
How could you not know that was a Stones song? YOU'VE PLAYED TWISTED METAL: BLACK! ITS THE BLOODY THEME SONG!
... I don't think I would mind if a girl wore fake specs. That's how much I like girls with glasses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
I always thought that title went to Rites of Spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Yeah, Rites of Spring are generally considered the founders. The bands that followed them sort of had a rediculous admiration for them. Sunny Day Real Estate just sort of tied the emo feeling into a more palatable package, which in turn inspired a bunch of other punk bands that got popular, but who did not neccesarily play emo music. That is how the label got passed on, and even if todays emo has lost almost any resemblance to that of the early 90s and 80s it does have a central influence.
I've always wanted a fucking eye patch and gnarly scar where the eye used to be. But until I lose my fucking eye in battle, I don't get to wear the eyepatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
Glasses should be the same way. Them's the rules.
What about Life's Blood(although I guess they are more hardcore) or Hot Water Music.
Early emo is a direct result of hardcore. Rites of Spring, however, started their thing as early as 84.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
Now I know...and knowing is half the battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
Yeah, I remember going to shows and emo bands weren't really seperate. Egress is the best of all the late 90's bands, IM not so HO.
See? I told you he lied.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Emo music is like medication. It's good for you as long as you listen to the right kind, and in small doses.
Emo trend, however, is something i don't know a whole lot about. Physically, it does look quite a bit like Goth, but the implied meaning is more of a "Pity me" rather than "yeah, man, i'll claw your face off". Goths are creepy.
Lordsnarf's brother is like 280 at least, and at least in fashion so emo it hurts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punky Skunk
You can thank Hot Topic and Carson Daily for all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarkex
Brian Eno created the Endless Guitar used by The Edge from U2. Brian Eno is the father of ambient music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
The Talking Heads were cool and all, but it depresses me if they and Weezer are what he's known for these days. And if people get his name confused with Dashboard Confessional.
pwntQuote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo