Adults are less impressionable. We have laws on everything else to make it harder for such people to affect society: fully-automatic weapons, etc etc.
Secondly, no one has said this law was the be- and end-all of such acts. There is no such thing.
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Adults are less impressionable. We have laws on everything else to make it harder for such people to affect society: fully-automatic weapons, etc etc.
Secondly, no one has said this law was the be- and end-all of such acts. There is no such thing.
Well, kids reasonably shouldn't commit the actual violent act. If a kid does so then his parents have dropped the ball somewhere. On the other hand, fake mimicry (e.g. playing "Cops & Robbers") is OK within limits. To draw the line, kids should be told by their parents that more than a few of the WWE/Tekken/Street Fighter moves are dangerous if performed in real life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
If two kids engage in a mock duel with toy Star Wars lightsabers after playing some game with sword fighting scenes, it's fine as long as they have been informed beforehand that they aren't supposed to strike with them. The parents should probably supervise this type of play. In the event that things get out of hand, the parents should take away the toy lightsabers.
Responsible parents would teach kids that violence is not acceptable IRL. So let's leave the decision to the parents- a kid who has been properly raised will know that he's not to perform the ingame violent acts in real life. I'm all for a retailer who voluntarily establishes their own policy of not selling M titles to minors. Government enforcement of this issue is needless and would be akin to letting the fox stand within 50 yards of the henhouse.
I agree with everything you said...up until the end.
There is no point to this legislation, I have decided. It's passing would be irrelevant untill proven otherwise for better or worse. Since, I BELIVE, violence is not begat from media in general then I BELIVE the legislation is useless and there's no signifigant gain or benefit from it and a risk of harm theoretically. My mind, I think, is made - against the legislation.
So basically we're all in agreement with eachother and disagreement with Joust:
Minors should not be allowed to play M-rated games, but the barriers that prevent them should come from the parents and the industry, not the government.
Anyone who thinks such a law,' "isn't that big a deal," or, "is a good thing," is ridiculously ignorant about the First Amendment.
You can't ban the sale of any medium to anyone unless it's pornography. End of story.
hey, remember when conservatives used to fight against laws that gave the government more power?
yeah... those were the days..
and if i'm not mistaken, it wasn't that long ago that parents used to have the responsibility for parenting their own kids.
This isn't about freedom of expression, since no one is stopping developers from making violent games.. I don't think we have to worry about any sort of precedent, either, since the First Amendment will always be there to smack down stupid laws.
This is about the government taking away the parents' right to parent - that is, to teach their own kids the difference between right and wrong, and to show them the difference between what is done tastefully and what isn't.
To that, I say, stop taking the parents' job away from the parents.
If I lived in CA, I'd be pissed as hell about this. You guys get to pay the tab for your government trying to take your consumer rights away.
In the grand scheme of things that's not really a lot of money, but yeah, it's ridiculous.
It is my sincerest hope that a kid in one of those after-school programs eventually goes on to develop Bukkake Adventure 2: Snowball Surprise Edition.
I'm both LOLing at and pissed at CA. States need to give it up in this matter. The ESA will just keep on terminating their attempts to make the ratings system legally binding. We don't need something like Japan's CERO Z shit, where it's against the law to sell Z rated games (Z is a hard M, like Mortal Kombat, Soldier of Fortune, or CoD Black Ops) to minors. Let retailers voluntarily card for M rated titles.
Parents should be the only ones to decide whether or not their kids ultimately play M-rated games. You can be 14 and mature enough for a certain game, or 17 and not.