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This is what I say about the DS.

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That's nice, but we knew that already. The topic was "UMD as movie format", not "Say the same old thing for the umpteenth time."

James

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Originally Posted by EvilMog007

Its SONY's fault since its the way they are shipping and supplying them.
I bet most retailers HATE the value pack since it leaves less options for consumers to buy useless but high markup add ons.

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But retailers love forcing consumers to buy high markup add-ons because it’s free profit to them. My housemate bought a PS2 a couple weeks ago and he was forced to buy two or three shitty old games with it. Not just at one store, but everywhere he went.

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Originally Posted by James

Would it be stating the obvious to say that the UMD format for movies is going to be barely a blip on the radar? I don't want to say it'll bomb entirely, although I'm pretty sure it will, but the whole format strikes me as uesless. Good for games, but I'm thinking we won't be seeing a whole lot of movies for it.

James

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A surprising number of people buy those useless cartoon game cartridges for the GBA. UMD discs could conceivably be competitively priced and hold more episodes, which will look about a million times better on the PSP.

I think it'll find a niche; there's people out there that buy these things.

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Originally Posted by piku

But retailers love forcing consumers to buy high markup add-ons because it’s free profit to them. My housemate bought a PS2 a couple weeks ago and he was forced to buy two or three shitty old games with it. Not just at one store, but everywhere he went.

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I guess I really dont blame some retailers for trying to force other shit with hardware purchases. There is almost NO money at all to be made for a retail store when they sell a console. The cost is so damn high. Why do you think EVERY store has the same prices on Xboxs and PS2s and such but the games are always going on sale. Its shitty they do this yes but I really don't blame them. In fact right now at my store our company is ALWAYS sending us emails to still bundle all hardware. I dont do it I just try my best to sell some other shit with it. And if all they want is the console so be it. But it is pretty retarded when thats all they buy. I was really stupid to see people buy PS2 only at launch with nothing else. Hell, some people said they would just buy PS1 games for now....WTF!

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Originally Posted by EvilMog007

Its SONY's fault since its the way they are shipping and supplying them.
I bet most retailers HATE the value pack since it leaves less options for consumers to buy useless but high markup add ons.

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Yeah, so instead of retailers ass-banging our wallets for a bunch of shitty accessories, Sony does the ass-banging. Eh, same difference. My only concern is when the standard pack comes out. I know I'm going to be kicking myself when the bare-bones unit shows up for at least $50 less, but I'd like a few months of being a smug early adopting bastard before that happens...

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A surprising number of people buy those useless cartoon game cartridges for the GBA.

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Crap, I always forget about those things. You're right, too many people do think those ridiculous cartoon cartriges are worthwhile. I'll never understand why but they do sell, so UMD can probably be a viable niche market as well.

James

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Originally Posted by James

Crap, I always forget about those things. You're right, too many people do think those ridiculous cartoon cartriges are worthwhile. I'll never understand why but they do sell, so UMD can probably be a viable niche market as well.

James

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Don't forget about those little videonow and juicebox players.

I'll be damned if my kid ever asks for some bullshit toy like that though.

Things like that wouldn't be so bad if the video shown wasn't grainy as all Hell. In that sense, the UMD stuff should provide clean video, which certainly counts for something.

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Originally Posted by piku

I really don't get what Sony is thinking with UMD... the only thing I can think of is that I heard in Japan DVDs didn't go over as crazily as they did here and now maybe Sony is trying to turn UMD into a movie standard? I really have no clue, I mean I guess it is a nice bonus to have for the handheld but really who is going to buy them?

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You're somewhat right. DVD's weren't popular when they first came out in Japan. Japan was a pretty big LD market, and I think a lot of people were perfectly happy continuing on with LD. So, the format didn't catch on nearly as fast as it did here, where LD wasn't nearly as huge and the market was just waiting for a new, better format than VHS.

That was many years ago, though. Trust me when I say that at this point, DVD is fully embraced in Japan.

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Originally Posted by omfgninjas

Come on, this is Nintendo.

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I know, but... I mean... that is bordering on an unbelievable level of stupidity. If I'm correct in understanding that DS also has a Nintendo-brand means of wireless play, what in God's name was their reason for putting in 802.11 and not putting in the main thing it would be used for?

I don't see why people are whining about the price of PSP games since it's no longer an issue of the portable games simply being scaled down versions of console games. $50, as long as the game itself is quality, is no big deal. Sure, i'd rather pay $30 for it. I'd rather get it for free, but if $50 is asked for quality software i only feel as jipped as i do when i part with the same amount for a copy of Paper Mario or Metal Gear Solid.

Hell, i remember paying $40 for each of the Final Fantasy Legend and Adventure games way back in the day. Nah, i'm not talking about the slightly cheaper Sunsoft re-releases. i mean way back, when we were all just fine with that green blurry screen and colors were supplied by too much sun or our own imagination. I remember paying $40 for Zoo Keeper just a few weeks ago... and only slightly regretting it. If every other DS game was the same price i wouldn't have blinked.