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In all fairness, your thread resurrection post took a shot at DMC, to which fans of the game replied.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Who gives a shit anyway, they're both fun games.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Parenthetically, I have it as DMC3: SE > NG Black > GoW. I won't even place Rygar in this tiering. I didn't care for DMC2, and didn't like DMC as much as most, but the depth and style of 3 got me hooked.
Calling the story solid is attacking it? You're so tender.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Like I said, I think it's solid enough. The main character is pretty cool, but no one else in the game has an ounce of personality. The ending is pretty lame. The game's presentation is a lot more outstanding than its story, really.
I never said ZOE's story was awesome, either. Though I do think ZOE2 has more interesting characters (and of course presentation that only Kojima's team can match).Quote:
Oh wait, what am I doing? I'm asking the man who defends the story in Zone of the Enders: Second Runner to tell what he felt the story in God of War was lacking. Silly me.
heh double predictable responses, you guys really need new material by now.
actually i was directing my comment at gozen, but i do find your self characterization quite apt.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
LOL FROSTWULF'S HANGIN FROM MY NUTS! OMGWTF!!!!11one11Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
slip has taught you well grasshopper
GoW has some great cutscenes and atmosphere, I'll give it that. Too bad the actual game that ultimately ancillary stuff is wrapped around is an uber-easy mashfest that gives you no incentive to change up your tactics, while DMC3... isn't.
As an 'experience', GoW > DMC3. As an action video game, DMC3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> half the other stuff in the genre > GoW.
I'm gonna go ahead and AWTP.
I need to go pick up DMC3. God of War went back yesterday. I'm bummed out cause I wanted it for so long and then it was just kind of lame.
What part did you get to?
I should've been right next to Aries when I quit. It just wasn't very fun for me. I guess I had about 2-3 hrs in it.
that part was awesome!
I just saw an ad on SmackDown showing this (and GT 4) as an official GH game, so pick it up quickly if you want it new without the GH stuff.
I like both GoW and DMC3. I think the action of DMC3 just has more depth to it, GoW has an easy learning curve and not as many weapons. Dante has a rocking ass guitar weapon for God's sake! Kratos back story is awesome though, the story in DMC3 is way over the top, so GoW wins in that regard. As far as pure action goes though, DMC3 is by far the better game.
This is truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
"Dante has a rocking ass guitar weapon for God's sake!"
DMC loses
Don't knock it until you kill a group of enemies with the power of ROCK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
DMC is ass. Dante is the cheesiest, lamest character in videogames. I cant even begin to describe how much I hate character design like that. GOW by a landslide.
Nice to see where your priorities in game design are!Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
I finally got God of War yesterday, and though I've no problem with any horrible fate that befalls that asshole Kratos, damned if he doesn't star in one of the most kick-ass games I've played. It may not be necessary to change my fighting tactics, but seeing as I've got a nice toybox filled with stuff it's all getting used.
James
Wanting characters that aren't moronic? I don't see what's unresonable about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Yes, Because Kratos was so deep and nuanced, and didn't reek at all of design by comittee.
I wish there was some way to italicize sarcasm to the point where the words are actually on their sides, because a slight slant just doesn't cut it in this case.
Kratos is awesome.
He totally isnt deep and nuanced but clearly the team had no intention of making him that way... Id take that over a prissy emo fag in a typically worthless Japanese action game story. Not speaking of any character in particular, though. =D
Fuck that, Dante was just as much design by committee, except the committee in his case was the cast of Priscilla Queen of the Desert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Kratos aint nothing to write home about either, but come on, compared to Dante its not even close.
I just wish either DMC3 or GoW had harder difficulties that weren't complete copouts and horrendously boring. Both were great games overall, although GoW had random shitty parts scattered throughout and then completely fell apart at the end but was still filled with a lot of great moments.
In any case, there was an interview with David Jaffe in the latest EGM. I found it kind of funny reading him talk about how crappy Hades was.
So this appears to be 20 bucks now. I'll be picking it up soon.
20 bones may be a good price. If I saw it for 10 I'd probably get it.
So what is wrong with Dante's design? Kratos is cool and all, but he is far goofier looking than Dante. I mean, come on this:
http://devilmaycry-727.tripod.com/im...target=tlx_new
Or this:
http://images.usatoday.com/tech/_pho...7/god-main.jpg
Dante is clearly more bad ass.
That's just crazy talkQuote:
Dante is clearly more bad ass.
Kratos looks more brutal. And more points to him for being covered in the ash of his fucking village and family.
While I admit that is cool, he still looks goofy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
No way dude.
he's a white man with a black mans lips. he's goofy.
Less goofy and emo than Dante. I mean c'mon. He's a rough son of a bitch, lips and all.
The only way I'd be more afraid of Dante than Kratos was if I was going to get ass raped. Dante's chances of carrying AIDS is higher.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
You are new here right...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Is that first picture Opaque?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
i just never thought i'd hear about AIDS in digital characters before.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMET
no he's still got his clothes on.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Just the fact that Dante's pic is labeled as "outfit 1" tells the whole story. I don't buy action games to play Barbie dress up.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Especially compared to something like Ninja Gaiden Black. I don't think I've seen another game with as much variety between difficulty levels.Quote:
I just wish either DMC3 or GoW had harder difficulties that weren't complete copouts and horrendously boring. Both were great games overall, although GoW had random shitty parts scattered throughout and then completely fell apart at the end but was still filled with a lot of great moments.
Er, one of Kratos' alternate costumes is a cow suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
DANTE DOESNT HAVE A MINIGAME WHERE HE FUCKS BITCHES FOR POINTS.
This argument turned pretty lame.
Thus Dante doesn't have to worry about showing how little it takes to get him all over excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
gamefaqs like whoa.
I just finished this, it really wasnt that hard. I died two or three times on the one where you walk and once on the one where you climb. The second log I fell down only twice (both near the bottom). Like Rumpy said it was pretty old-school, you guys are just scrubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
IBTN. I get sick of hearing people whine about this part......although I got worked by Ares a couple of times at the end so maybe I should just zip it :sweat:Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Meh. I can beat DMC3 on Dante Must Die, I am hardly a scrub. Those pillars just sucked. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Oh and:
http://204.127.198.24/~tpizarro/gow/...irybastard.jpg
Those pillars do suck... if you're a scrub.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
David Jaffe himself doesn't like that part of the game. It's not just people sucking--that part of the game really is rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I think he just cracked under the pressure of all of that scrubbery you scrubs were throwing his way.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Fuck yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
This post amused me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
GoW: 10/10
6.5/10
You were like 2 hours into it... you're an even bigger scrub than animegirl or MarkRyan.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuchanan
Well, the first 2 hours were a 6.5, maybe 7. I'll probably still buy it sometime down the road and beat it.
lol... coming from the guy who is currently jerking off to Princess Peach.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuchanan
BUT ITS YOUR OPINION SO THATS ALRIGHT.
SPP fucking rocks!!!! Based on my first two hours with it, I'd give it an 8.5.
No one cares what you would give anything.
I'd give you a kick in the ass.
Would that be with your Peachy high heels?
I'm about 2 hours in, and the game is pretty fucking cool so far.
Don't bring my high heels into this.
I never understood what all the bitchin' was about with Hades. What a bunch of pussies. The game was bad ass from beginning to end. My only gripe is that I wish there were a couple more bosses.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
This coming from the guy who couldn't even grasp simple control concepts in Metal Gear Solid 3. "HAY GUYZ HOW YOU DO CQC??"Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
lol yea i asked TNL for help because I thought it was okay to ask game-related questions in game threads. You were like OMG LOOK IN THE MANUAL NOOB when it wasnt there. At least I can read I guess. MGS3 sucks ass anyway. 3/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
Agreed on the boss point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass Joe
I also wish more developers put "behind the scenes" stuff on the discs.
The behind the scenes video was cool. I just wish they would've put all the concept art in it's own section so I could get a better look at it. Only getting to glance at it for a few seconds drove me insaneQuote:
I also wish more developers put "behind the scenes" stuff on the discs.
Hades was obnoxious, but not really that big a deal. It took some practice but the checkpoints were close enough together that it turned out ok. Not my favorite section, but not the worst thing I've played either. However...
An escort mission. After going all that way, being so damn good the entire time, they stick in what amounts to an escort mission at the end. After my fifth attempt I decided to hell with it and turned it off. I'll try again later.
James
This is so hilarious coming from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
That section is not easy. I think the trick is once you see guys with Blades of Artemis focus the fuck on them 100%. It wasnt until I did that that I won, easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by James
No, its really not - unless you think saying "game X sucks" in game X's thread is inappropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Oh come on, you also give people grief when asking for help.
I think we're all tired of your trolling, Jeremy.
Who's trolling? All I did was point out something ironic in a diffusionx post. It's also funny to see you act like you don't troll.
Dude Jeremy, stop being a disruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Whatever man. All I did was point something out, and I figured you'd get a laugh out of it as well since it is pretty ironic.
We're trying to stay on topic here, Jeremy. If you're not going to discuss God of War, kindly find another thread. We have a whole Off Topic board for your humor.
I've discussed GoW in this thread (and will continue to do so), and there has been plenty of other off-topic stuff discussed here (including stuff by you), so why single me out?
lol.
Seriously, just ignore them Jeremy. It is not worth the effort. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Bizzarooo!!!!
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Originally Posted by animegirl
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Posts of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Haha.
Well, finished the game today, and it was fucking awesome. So polished.
I don't know what all you pussies were complaining about with those spinning blades, the horizontal ones took a little patience and on the vertical ones I only fell once. You really just have to take time to recognize the patterns.
No game has satisfied my "dark side" like this game has. None. Straight up brutal murder and destruction. Not even the Kotor games where you ruin lives has made me laugh this gleefully in my evil. Probably because this game doesn't burden you with a conscience at all.
Good difficulty slope in this game too. The enemies ramp up in difficulty but every enemy telegraphs their moves so with some observation you can learn and change tactics to become brutally effective again, crushing new mobs of baddies. Even the last fight, which at first seemed way too hard, was able to be broken down after a few tries by paying attention to the telegraphs. Like playing Punch Out. Good stuff. A+.
The only ways I could think of making the game better were really put into my head by the production team themselves after watching the FMV extras they provide on the game disc. (Which if you can't already tell by the previous sentence, I thought was an awesome touch. I wholly approve of that sort of thing in games like this and Guitar Hero.) A boss fight at Pandora's Box would have been cool. There was a real lack of boss encounters during the meat of the game. I also would have loved to climb Chronos myself. A lot of cool sequences were taken care of in movie sequences. I understand they ran out of time, but it might even be for the best pacewise because it tightens up the game and cuts out like, "travel time" that books and movies gloss over.
The way the levels were laid out and connected really made me happy too. As did all the awesome ways to mutilate your opponents. Some of those combos never ever get old.
That's all I have to say about that. Oh yeah, and I am a better player than you.
Photographic Evidence:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...id=19026&stc=1
All right, it's a shitty picture because my buddy snapped it a bit early, but that is a 1,000 combo. It says "Impossible" along the bottom and it's an instant +300 vicious point bonus.
I actually got it to around 1100 but the bonuses and words stopped at 1,000.
Jesus after going back and reading this whole thread there's so much to respond to.
The game's not so much a mash-fest as it is just...easy. Trying to juggle enemies and put together bitchin' toss-up-and-throw combos is great.
I suppose like someone said earlier, the combat in this game is what you make of it. The game seems less about challenging your skills as a gamer and more about trying to enjoy yourself and string together a bunch of slick-looking moves. I am personally glad it's so much easier than NG or DMC3.
Yoshi pegged the order correctly, by the way. NG>GoW>DMC3
Outrageous. Kratos would simply grab Dante in both hands and then rip him apart. Pansy.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
It really helps to: a) have your hades and poseidon's rage spells maxed or close to maxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
b) have your God gauge full.
REMEMBER: When you are in the God mode your magic spells don't consume magic power. You can get at least a free hades cast out of this, and of course you also rape everything during this time. That's what put me over the edge.
Bumped becasue I got a thousand combo.
I'm 6 hours into this and can't help but wonder why this game got so much hype while Rygar just fizzled away.
(Well, it's a lot more polished and the story kicks way more ass of course.)
You answered your own question. The line for must-play and not runs somewhere between GoW and Rygar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
Cause God of War was extremely violent and bloodyQuote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
I just started playing GoW again after not touching for a year and Im about 7 - 8 hours into it getting close to the end of the game
There are things I like about it and things I find really annoying about the game overall it's good though
But I do think I liked Rygar better gameplay wise but GoW definitely has a much more engaging story, it's just more developed more thought out, much much more fleshed out than Rygar was
I really hope in GoW 2 they give you control over the camera thats one thing that really really annoyed me in GoW
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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Didn't the camera in Rygar bother you? I thought the Rygar camera was brutal. At least GoW's fixed camera didn't really get in the way.
The only reason I can see for camera control is to spot hidden chests easier. It might've helped a little during the hades level too.
I think way more people would've complained if you had to control a camera too. Has there ever been a good controllable camera? I've rarely, if ever, complained about fixed cameras. For high-octane games it just makes more sense to leave it fixed so the gamer can focus on the on-screen action.
I just finished the game on Hard and I swear to god those spinning blade towers are probably the easiest bit of platforming in the game.
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Originally Posted by Glass Joe
Ohh man no way GoWs fixed camera drove me crazy at times, for the same reason alot of fixed cameras drive me crazy, when you're fighitng a bunch of enemies or doing something right by where the fixed position changes and one second up is one way and you move a little to the left and now up is another way, I mean yeah I can adjust just fine to it but it still annoys me. Plus there were times for certain jumps or levels, and like revoltor said when looking for hidden chests, when being able to move the camera even a little bit would have been a wonderful thing.
I don't know I don't find controlable cameras as annoying as the rest of the world does *shrug*
I had that problem a lot more in Devil May Cry than I did God of War, but even then it didn't drive me nuts... just sayin. By contrast I've played Ratchet & Clank for about 45 minutes and been inconvenienced by the camera about 10 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Different strokes.
You can't beat a fixed camera for this style of play, you just reaaaally need to plan and test a lot to make sure awkward switches don't happen.
I'll have to take your word for that because I've never seen it come together like that. To date the best 3D camera is a pulled-back lock-on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia