If it wasn't for RE4, ED would be king. Amazing game.
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If it wasn't for RE4, ED would be king. Amazing game.
Silicon Knights is really overrated and have yet to make a game that is worthy of their reputation. Nintendo buying them managed to convince a lot of fanboys that they were one of the best development houses out there but they never have been and probably never will be.
They make C-list games with tons of atmosphere. Thats it.
Agreed. The gameplay in Blood Omen and Eternal Darkness was really bland, and ED's plot was just a shameless ripoff/combination of a bunch of HP Lovecraft stories and concepts.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The only Silicon Knights game I've ever played was Twin Snakes, which I thought was a really weak remake.
It's also their best playing game by far.
maybe, but really point me to a survival horror game that has a better storyline? res evil is shamelessly bad as a night of the living dead clone, silent hill has style but ultimately the story looks good mostly becasue so little of it is really explained, overall its really just a cult story with an alternate dimension added, stylistic but not that great. and fatal frame has its spooky moments, but again the story isnt really that strong. and while i havent played them, alone in the dark has been cited timeand time again for pilliaging lovecraft. its survival horror, most go for style, not a grand storyline. i liked the idea of how the characters you controlled died even when you did everything right, it gave a feeling of how big a thing you were really up against. that sense of scope really sold the game for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
I'd argue that Silent Hill 2 has far more going for it than Eternal Darkness, and the only thing holding it back is a mediocre translation (which isn't a fault of the original product). Besides, like you said, survival horror games generally don't have what I'd call amazing plots. Eternal Darkness is just (arguably... like I said, I think SH2 is far better) the king of a very undistinguished hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
Yep, almost (but not quite) as much as ED does. I'm willing to give AitD a pass, though, because it was really the first of its kind and established a formula that would continue for well over a decade without any significant changes, so the warmed-over plot was at least being presented in a new and innovative way. Eternal Darkness can't fall back on anything like that.Quote:
and while i havent played them, alone in the dark has been cited timeand time again for pilliaging lovecraft.
In addition, I don't think the presentation was all that great, either. One of the reasons Lovecraft worked so well (and this is what Silent Hill gets, since it also takes a lot from Lovecraft) is that very, very little was ever shown or explained. You had to figure the vast majority of the puzzle out on your own, and even then, he waited until the end of his stories before any sort of "big reveal." ED starts weird and stays there for the duration, so there's never really a sense of building dread. It has all the elements of Lovecraft in place, and then botches the execution.
It's hard to put graphical representation on anything Lovecraftian. It's always a nebulous building fear that slowly slimes all over you and you don't realise its scared you untill your done and you don't want to get off the couch for some dread hanging over you. Ok, the couch thing was more personal experience. I read Call of the Chtulhu late at night on my living room couch and I was kinda creeped, but not by any elder god or anything. It was more of the sence of fear it instills in you, not a particular fear.
Exactly. The best tributes to Lovecraft understand that his stories work because of the themes, the pacing, and the atmosphere. The worst tributes fail because they think Lovecraft was about big squid-faced monsters and madness!!!. Eternal Darkness definitely was closer to the latter than the former.
except for the fact that they've generally pissed off the end of their fanbase with all the shit titles that they've(sans sports games) put out this generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
this is like putting gasoline in a beater with 3 miles left in the engine.