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In the new EGM DS preview section Mario Kart DS is confirmed to have online wi fi. I have said it before many times, I would have been livid if they'd left it out. Very happy to hear it's in...so far.
The thought of hitting people across the country in real time with homing shells has me drooling.
This is going to be used as blackmail against you forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan1CC
haha...hurm?Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Please 'splain. :(
I don't get what he said either.
On a related note, I have a reason to get a DS...when MK and the wireless network are out and about.
Sweet deal, another reason to pick up a wireless router and pay off my credit card.
Finally, an online Mario Kart, and yet another reason to get a DS. Awesome.
Wow, they give all the props to handheld gaming after giving console owners one hell of a cock tease.
Way to go nintendo, your warppipe project failed. :rolleyes:
There was more than one reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
TWO screens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
Fuck, that's clever!
Wow. ONLINE PLAY! thats so revolutionary! And with Mario Kart? Amazing!
That will totaly keep Sony for raping them in the marketplace!
....sigh
Don't forget the way that it looks like shit compared to a PSP game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
nintendo's in trouble since their business strategy was not only transparent, but unexciting.
Too little, too late.
It's the truth. The DS can't stand up to the PSP, which is made by God himself.
There doesn't need to be a reason to buy the DS. The DS sells like hotcakes at $150.
So the DS doubling the PSP's sales at launch doesn't mean anything then? You guys are morons.
The DS was sold at almost half the price, and during the holidays.
And I just sold my DS after 4 months of bullshit and there was only like 3 games that I wanted. The PSP at launch already has 3 games that I want, and more on the horizon. As opposed to the Minigame fiesta that the DS is until like August.
Bullshit. What is on the horizon? The PSP blew its load at launch. Nothing has been announced yet that has any promise, though I am sure that will change at E3 for both systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
I thought the touchscreen was just a gimmick, but the touchscreen is perfect for gun games. If they port some 32-bit area gun games, and some of the great adventure games like Gabriel Knight, I'll buy one.
Edit: No ports of any gun games announced.
What PSP games are coming out now? Has anything new come out? Or do we have to wait for E3 to find out?
Even if it blew it's load at launch, it's still better than the DS 4 months down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Go look at EB's release list. There isn't shit coming out. The PSP has one must have game, albeit a really good one. That's Ridge Racer, by the way, for the tastefully challenged around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Both the DS and PSP suck. All of you STFU and mod your Xboxs.
I already have a modded super Xbox. It's called my PC, and it does everything better than the Xbox does.
OH YEAH? WELL YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RENT HERE ANYMORE!
I however have a modded xbox, and it eats children.
When were these gun game ports announced? I can't find any info on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Good Luck getting anything out of him, all he does is fellate the DS.
Hi, pot. Meet Mr. Kettle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
The PSP has better hardware. Both platforms are weak as hell in the game department. E3 will make things much more clear, because this thing is completely up for grabs at this point.
Neo, well, it's dated April 1, but...
http://ds.ign.com/articles/600/600415p1.html
Regardless, it points out the idea of using the DS screen for gun games. I wouldn't care for any NES games, but Area 51 would be nice. And no, as of yet, I don't see any of the great adventure games being ported.
When you're right, you're right. I had the DS for 4 months, nothing they had, or anything that's coming up kept me from selling it off though. E3 Will be the grand equilizer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
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Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Definitely an April's Fool's joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by IGN
Doesn't mean shit, like chux pointed out it was half the price and out at christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Whats the "hip-urban" crowd excited about?
Sure as hell isn't the DS, and these days thats all Sony needs. Let us not forget what company were talking about, they own like half of the movie and music industry, they know how to get people to buy shit no matter how crappy it is.
Judging by the sales, not the PSP.Quote:
Whats the "hip-urban" crowd excited about?
They're not buying it (and it's not even crappy). But Sony knows what they're doing. Surely they won't release the PSP overpriced at the wrong time of the year, will they?Quote:
Let us not forget what company were talking about, they own like half of the movie and music industry, they know how to get people to buy shit no matter how crappy it is.
Seriously, what games are on the horizon for the PSP that anyone should care about? There's Mercury, GTA (I guess), GT4M (I guess)...what else? No Gradius (which is the PERFECT game for this thing, nothing other than a glob of EA games.
You try harder than Yoshi to spin things your way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Handheld systems are for fags. All of you STFU right now.
Even though the PSP launched with so many games, other than the sports games a lot of people are returning most of them saying they suck, like Ape Escape, Metal Gear AC!D and Dynasty Warriors most notably. I haven't played Dynasty Warriors, but I can see why people wouldn't like the other two.
I hear the second shipments of PSPs will be "bare bones" for $200, maybe that will off-set the slightly poor sales.
If people don't like Metal Gear Acid they need to fucking die, asap.
Mario Kart online may be the best thing to happen to gameing since......ever. Seriously haters, think about it, even if you hate stoopit Nintendont, you can't deny how awesome it'll be to play MK anytime with anybody wirelessly.
No one hates that. They hate that Nintendo is a few years and two games too late with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuchanan
I didn't expect you to figure that out on your own anyway, though.
Did he say Stoopit, and Nintendont?
All ya gotta do is look up a little chux
I know, I was just bringing out the fact that you said Stoopit, and Nintendont.
"I didn't expect you to figure that out on your own anyway, though."
Did you expect me to have your opinion, on my own.
Like hotcakes!Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
The touch screen could also lend itself very well to the RTS genre.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Yep, you're still missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuchanan
It's all about the bling!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
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It'll only set you back around $30k. :eek:
What are you talking about? It took the DS two weeks to sell 500,000 units. At $150, during the Christmas shopping season, coming from the company that has monopolized the portable gaming market for 15 years. Analysts are predicting the PSP has sold 400-600k units, for a system released in March, for $250 (and being bundled with hundreds of dollars of games and accessories just about everywhere), by a company who has never released a portable gaming platform.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
It took the iPod 19 months to sell a million units.
And, for what it's worth, it took the PSP one day to double the DS's entire accumulated library in quality several, several times over. Which, at least to me, means a hell of a lot more.
Grand Theft Auto, Devil May Cry, Burnout, Gran Turismo Mobile, Splinter Cell, Prince of Persia, Tales of Eternia, Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core, Hot Shots Golf, Viewtiful Joe, Infected, Murcury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Believe the shit that this man is saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
Which, incedentilly, is why Command & Conquer and Red Alert have been announced for the PSP. Hah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Nintendo sold more than 500k in the first week, according to CNet. This despite knowing that a new Gameboy is coming soon, competition from its own current line of games, and people waiting to see the PSP before deciding which to buy.
http://news.com.com/Nintendo+DS+a+sa...3-5472919.html
That's coming for the PSP!? You're fucking shitting me!Quote:
Tales of Eternia
I highly doubt most of those that purchased a DS knew this.Quote:
This despite knowing that a new Gameboy is coming soon,
I didn't realize it. And I kick myself in the pants for that.
Nintendo is the worst company in games now. No more discussion.
What's your point? I was just pointing out that the stylus could be used for portable RTS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
I love how any mention of the DS turns into a PSP vs DS flame war.
Go yap about it in the PSP threads and STFU about it here.
Mario Kart online is going to be sweet for people that want Mario Kart Online. Why is it so hard to let other people who don't share your opinion be happy?
Yeah, but that doesn't mean you need to say the exact same thing twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
Mario Kart DS online is kinda cool... I mean... the game doesn't have that much depth to begin with, so I guess we'll see how the results turn out. All I know is the tide falls heavily upon the people who get the lightning weapon or triple homing shells.
This is the problem. Nintendo fans are so quick to turn anything slightly negative about Nintendo and blow it up, even if it completely misses the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Everyone wants Mario Kart online. Everyone wanted it at least two years ago, though. Nintendo is the most clueless company in gaming, while Sony and Microsoft seem to have everything right.
I don't believe this news. Sony and Microsoft doing everything right? Like what? It took them nearly two years for Halo to finally get online and the rest of their online selection, with the exception of Street Fighter, is rather weak if you're not into PC style games on consoles. Sony's online plan is hardly nothing to take notice of either unless you like sport games, military games, or first person shooters as well (Although I can't speak for Ratchet and Clank 3, which does look like a lot of fun online).Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Of course I can only speak for myself, but Mario Kart online is more appealing than anything Microsoft or Sony has brought to the online table thus far and the first step to seeing some of my favorite games come online in the future.
Say what you will, but Nintendo still seems to make more enjoyible games than most other companies in this industry. I really believe that most people are just so blind-sighted by stupid video game politics that they need to add a negitave spin to it.
Not when a good Gamecube game comes out once every 4 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Nintendo is 5 years too late on damn near everything, and had their thumbs up their asses when Sony and MS were going online. How are they trying to fix it? By telling their consumers that they don't need online, and that they need gimmicky hardware...I guess Geen is right, they're not clueless.
Fuck you Nintendo, fuck you in your stupid ass.
Still doesn't change the fact that some of the most enjoyible games this generation have been on the Gamecube and Gameboy Advance for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Sucks for you.
Don't get me wrong, every now and then the gamecube has something worthwhile, Viewtiful Joe (When it was Exclusive), Resident Evil 4, Tales of Symphonia, Twin Snakes, F-Zero... but only one of them was made by Nintendo. One was a remake, two of them are ported, and ToS was on PS2 in Japan.
That was a stupid decession on their part. I can respect them saying that they wanted to wait for when they can do it without charging the customer for online play and still making a profit off of running the service, but just blurting out that consumers didn't want online gameplay because Hot Shots Golf Fore didn't sell as well as HSG3 is just plan dumb. No arguement there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
If Nintendo's plan was to release an online game that we've played 7 years ago right after people start getting tired of playing Wipeout Pure, well, good job.
If enjoying games sucks for me, than, um, yes? I'm not biased. I call `em as I see `em and play games that interest me. So, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
The thing is that you're not explaining yourself. You say quote "Sony's online plan is hardly nothing to take notice of either unless you like sport games, military games, or first person shooters..." so uh... have you played games in the last 5 years? People LOVE this stuff. That's exactly the reason why the market is flooded with dozens of WWII shooters. I hate sports games personally, but the world around me doesn't. No matter what Madden 2006 looks like, people will buy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Also, IIRC Nintendo's games are selling very poorly this generation. The games that people REALLY want to play (and I'm basing this off statistics. Cold hard facts that have been proven) are either going through some gaming rennosiance with the DS that no one really cares about (in terms of the new features the DS provides) or are lackluster follow ups that add one or two new features and pretty graphics. Some examples? The Pokemon series, which also happens to be one of the best selling series of all time. The Mario series, which is now whored out to every genre imaginable in which other companys inevitably make it better. The fact is that Nintendo is giving us too little, too late. the GCN is STILL a very capable piece of hardware that has practically been shunned by the entire gaming comunity for it's lack of 3rd party support, it's non-ability to play DVD's (which was a big thing for Xbox and Ps2 owners) and it's overall childish feel. That, and Nintendo took it's sweet ass time developing every game, which may or may not be a bad thing, and made us play these boring titles in the mean time.
While the online revolution hit around 02-03 for consoles, Nintendo was working on an updated version of Mario 64. While Sony was working on its new portable handhed, Nintendo was working on adding a second screen to Mario 64, complete with mini games and a few extra levels. See the trend here? They are behind the times, and they deserve to get a quick slap in the face to tell them "Hey, you old bitches. The days of "Oh! Lets make our games accessible to 2 year olds so our revenue can double!" are over.
And for what it's worth, I'm pretty sure Mario Kart Super Circuit sold poorly.
I'm sorry for replying so many times today, but I can't help myself...
Despite the fact that this is a new Mario Kart game? How is this going online any different from Wipeout Pure going online with the PSP? Wipeout has been around for at least 8 years or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocca
Like I said, gimmicky hardware, and rehashes.
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Originally Posted by Geen
Mario Kart is 3 years older than Wipeout, and Wipeout still beat them out the door, concerning Online.
Where is it online? A tunneling service? weeee
I'm not analizing the market, I'm only speaking for myself. I really couldn't careless about what the mainstream plays. Sony and Microsoft have done an excellent job getting games the mainstream want online, but that doesn't mean jack-shit to me as none of them are games that I would play in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
I'm not saying that PS2 and Xbox don't have games that I enjoy as well, I'm just saying that a lot of my best gaming memories this generation have been on Gamecube. Personally, I finish more Gamecube games than PS2 or Xbox games because I enjoy playing them more. Again, I'm not basing this on anything else than my own personal experiences over the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
If Mario Sunshine is just an "updated version of Mario 64" than every company is just turning out updates after updates since the majority of the market is flooded with sequels. Like it or hate it, Mario Sunshine is it's own fucking game. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
Compared to Sony who was just getting 3rd Parties to port over their last PS2 games and do nothing overally original at all. I see Yoshi Touch N Go and Ware Ware both on the DS which are amazing unquie games that can be done no where else. All I see on PSP are games that are also on PS2 or could be on any other machine out there. I'm not saying that it's not a sexy machine, but it definitally is not original at this point.[/quote]Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
That I can make my own opinions and think for myself without letting other people's opinions alter my own? Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
What the hell are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
This has nothing to do with anything, so why even bring it up? I also doubt it sold poorly, although I really don't care as I'm playing video games and not following the stock market or video game politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by FM Nick
And Mario Kart is going to be online later this year, so what's the difference? Is this even a race? Who the fuck cares? Mario Kart + Online = Yayness! What more of a dicussion is there to this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
Still more than you can say about Nintendo. Sad as it might be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
"I'm pretty sure Mario Kart Super Circuit sold poorly."
bzzzt
"Still more than you can say about Nintendo. Sad as it might be"
Um, no.
How do you figure? Nintendo flat out takes out the ability to have any tunneling done.
You can use WarpPipe to play MK: DD
I can't believe Geen has gone this long arguing with people about his opinions, when no one has called any of his opinions into question at all.
Any other games? Because I can use Kai to play Lumines, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, MG:A(If I really wanted to) etc.
I had 15 minutes to kill and it seemed like people kept replying. :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Besides, people kept ramming sale figures or whatever in the discussion as if those are a base to stand everything else upon when all I'm talking about here is opinion.
"Any other games? Because I can use Kai to play Lumines, Wipeout, Ridge Racer, MG:A(If I really wanted to) etc."
But this was about Wipeout. And yeah, I dunno why people always talk about sales figures here--ever read the Music board? Half of those bands would be lucky to sell 38 copies of a CD.
Fair enough. I also didn't bring numbers here.
I don't see any sales figures except one throwaway comment that MK GBA sold poorly. Why do you care what the sales figures are anyway?
You're allowed to like shitty games, but to a large percentage of people, Nintendo is behind in just about every single possible way (public perception, 3rd party support, online, game quality, innovation, too many gimmicks, etc). That's all we're trying to say. Nintendo 2000-2005 is nowhere near as awesome as Nintendo 1985-1995.
IAWTP
Nintendo has said in many interviews "Mario Sunshine is an expanded version of Mario 64." Is this not obvious? And I loved Mario Sunshine. My favorite game on GCN, as a matter of fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Once again, opinion as fact bullshit. Yoshis Touch N Go is one long running level of drawing clouds and tapping enemies. It feels more like a M64DS mini game than an actual "fleshed out" video game. I havent played Wario Ware DS, but from what I hear thus far, it is in no way a "system seller".Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Way to completely ignore what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
I still stand by my statement in a prior thread that this is just an easy way in getting out of pressure. So here, Geen, let me spell it out in crayon for you. NINTENDO NO LONGER OWNS THE MARKET PLACE. THEY MAKE GIMMICKY SHIT AND MARKET IT AS UNIQUE. IT. IS. NOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Sure it does. Mario Kart Double Dash was the latest Mario Kart. The same series in which you said "Of course I can only speak for myself, but Mario Kart online is more appealing than anything Microsoft or Sony has brought to the online table thus far and the first step to seeing some of my favorite games come online in the future." If the sales from the latest title are any indication, people are getting burned out on the whole kart racing formula. I know I would probably enjoy this game, like I said: too little, too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
I don't know. You're the only one that seems to be defending Nintendo. Maybe we should be saying the same thing to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
Edit: I made this edit about 10 minutes ago, but then TNL shitted on me. I apologize, but I was talking about Mario Kart: Double Dash the whole time. The GCN game.
All I see is a bunch of "well, sales figures say people don't care about this or that anymore". Good. Great. So what. That's not "defending Nintendo" that's "defending being at least halfway intelligent". Someone should make a sticky "People don't care about Nintendo like they used to" and that'd be that.
It's like soccer fans. They always champion their sport because it's the most popular, but a) no one likes them and b) everyone wants to kick their heads in. And ironically, c) soccer is garbage.
While I am certainly first in line to defend the PSP and point out the DS's current shittiness, Jesus christ, why can't more of you douche bags think like this? This arguement happens in just about every thread here, and I can never understand why, because for some reason so many of you like to pretend like you're big marketing executives, falling back on sales figures and what is cool or trendy in the market as to justify your opinions. Let your fucking opinions justify your opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
And, for the record, Mario Kart: Super Circuit has sold several million copies, and iirc, is one of if not the best selling GBA title released (single title, not Pokemon combos).
I don't see the difference between rehashes and gimmicks or sports games updated every year and floods of generic FPS games that makes buying the second set less 'sucks to be you' than the first.
Give this shit a rest. Geen likes his stuff and doesn't seem to be doing anything other than explaining his rationale. Which is much more respect than I'd give 75% of you. He's not trying to convert you - get over it.
Oh, and Sony's online setup was a joke; Nintendo's didn't exist; and only MS did it right this generation. So shut the hell up about Nintendo being 'behind on the times' unless you're willing to get that Bias Stick out of your ass and admit Sony was just as guilty. Rule of thumb: if you couldn't do it like MS did, you failed at online. Period.
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Give this shit a rest.
You're doing the same thing. STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
No one expected anything other than a Sony-level effort in Nintendo getting online. They couldn't even do that. The problem is, they didn't go online because they said we didn't want it. However, while lots of people complain about how slow they're taking to adopt this online shit that started all the way back with Doom, I'm sure no one, even anti-online types, would have complained if Nintendo put a half-assed online effort into their games. They just don't get anything anymore. I can't wait for Mario Baseball.
It's not about who did what better, it's about who's still relevant and with the times. Nintendo's second to last behind SNK with regards to their influence and relevance in this industry, and even SVC Chaos was online.
edit: recinded because Kano makes sense.
Jesus Christ you still put quotes around single words after all these years.
of course I do. It's "innovative"
At least you got it down to just apostrophes now. Now just get rid of that.
And you deleted it. :(
Sure thing, 'chief'
Its hard to believe that a thread about an online Mario Kart game could be so negative. Its Mario Kart. Its online. Whats not to like about that?
Actually, the whole rant made little sense when Kano pretty much summed it up - give it a rest.
Although I think giving Geen shit for just enjoying what he does and telling why he does is tantamount retarded. But I'm repeating shit now, so...
You just don't know him irl. He deserves it >=)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
Because we're obviously arguing about Mario Kart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinopio
If it were a PSP exclusive, the Sony fanboys would be heralding it as the greatest thing ever. But it's on DS, so it's lame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinopio
I'm still not figuring out where anyone is finding that anyone else isn't enjoying the news of Mario Kart being online. If there's anything positive in this thread, it's that everyone is all about that shit, even if it is a couple years late.
Am I allowed to sue Nintendo for me stupidly buying the DS?