You're right, I haven't used it. So tell me what it can do that I can't do with a copy of Photoshop and a decent text editor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nercm
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You're right, I haven't used it. So tell me what it can do that I can't do with a copy of Photoshop and a decent text editor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nercm
I like this news. Adobe knows what the customers want. Macromedia's Studio products, like Quark, are a hassle to get and keep registered and licensed. The programs are buggy and I've never had a customer who had a good experience with them over any period of time. Adobe will most likely integrate the products into their current line as features, which will be great.
Perhaps this will also encourage all these babies who can't write their own code to make web sites with good formatting that conform to standards instead of the crap you see generated by Dreamweaver et al.
EDIT: I was going to suggest purchasing some Adobe stock, but:
YIKES. :|Quote:
Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq: ADBE) today announced a definitive agreement to acquire Macromedia (Nasdaq: MACR) in an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $3.4 billion.
I don't believe Quark is owned by Macromedia. The two don't even have anything to do with one another:
http://www.quark.com/about/legal/
Quark is its own company based in Switzerland. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.
Quark is a separate entity from Macromedia
So how did you web designers get clients starting out. Give me some tips.
I know HTML back and forth but Dreamweaver just makes it easier. Jeez, I dont know what the fuck is wrong with people who feel the need to flash their e-penis by saying they tediously write out HTML code by hand. Fuck you if youre one those.
As for this announcement... eh hopefully it will benefit the products, because thats all that matters.
You're right about Dreamweaver making it easy for people to make websites. Dreamweaver helped me understand how to implement dynamic content with JSP on my web pages some time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
However, at some point, you'll want to move towards a text-based editor like Homesite because you'll start to hate how Dreamweaver generates your code. Although Dreamweaver does have an integrated text-based editor, I find the program's interface too cluttered and busy. Though after I'm done coding with Homesite, I use Dreamweaver for its excellent templating capabilities.
I agree. My flash teacher in college used to say it, but his tone wasn't snobbish. He just said that he's so accustomed to HTML now that he uses the DW notepad and does it mostly by hand. But he didn't discount anybody. He said if you want to use Dreamweaver you're not losing points or credit or face. It's just a different tool to accomplish the same task.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
And really, it saves you time.
To be honest, I really couldn't care less what people use to make their websites.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
My problem is I think it is a bad idea to learn and live by things like Dreamweaver, where you have no real working knowledge of how the HTML you are creating works. There are always going to be times when they can't create the page exactly the way it needs to be, and you need to get your hands dirty directly in the HTML.
For me, personally, I'm very anal about how my code looks, so I won't let any WSYWIG programs like Dreamweaver touch it.
he worded it oddly. he meant to say macromedia products and quark are hard to get and keep licensed. not that they are the same company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew