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http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=4746
Don't know how long the page will be up, as I could imagine Nintendo would want to shut it down quickly. I bet they are real upset that this info was leaked before they could present it at E3.
I posted the scans as attachments.
You're 9 or so days slow on the uptake.
I see, my bad...
He still beats Nintendo by a good 3 years...Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
I'm such a sucker for Zelda games
It looks like theyre rehashing Four Swords (for the second time) to put on DS.
Im fucking shocked.
It looks like they're just using Four Swords as a reference point for the DS Zelda game.
At this point, Nintendo will take any attention they can get. I doubt those will get pulled down.
Old, ban, lock. But can anyone read spanish (or whatever language those pages are in)? :sweat:
EGM scans from the upcoming issue were also posted at another webpage, but were taken down when Nintendo threatened to sue.
In other news, these screenshots are dull. This had better not be another Ocarina clone.
In the year 2000, epmode will not want to play the new Zelda.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Brand, yeah, they're in Spanish. I can pick out quite a few things and at least make sense of the article topics. ANything you wanted in particular?
Thats exactly what it will be, except with sailing (err... horse riding). This will be lame, guaranteed. Also guaranteed is it will get 97% on GameRankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
You could be right. I saw some other scans from EGM which featured a pregnant woman... :PQuote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Now I am not sure this game...
You know what would make it awesome?Quote:
You could be right. I saw some other scans from EGM which featured a pregnant woman... :P
The Force Abortion.
Id buy a GameCube for that.
Four swords on the DS... and final fantasy... Thats a pretty killer multiplayer lineup.
Well, you are 12.
GOD! SHUTUP ALREADY!
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Originally Posted by Jeremy
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Originally Posted by somehobo
But you made that statement your sig for christs sakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by somehobo
The scans look delicious by the way...delicious.
When I made the new sig, i didnt intend for people to take it seriously, its supposed to be sarcastic. But, if i must so you will take me seriously, i will change it.
Changing your sig won't make people take you seriously.
I assure you, no one cares what a 12 year old thinks. No sarcasm involved.
I'll be 13 in 26 days...
No one cares.
Bahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by somehobo
NO ADMITTANCE!
http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~mrontu/ani/scene01.jpg
Wait a second, I believe I brought this topic up in another thread and you said nobody treated me like shit. However, that is what you seem to be doing.
"Treated" is in the past, this is the present.
Asshole
lols, little kids sure love Zelda.Quote:
Originally Posted by somehobo
Hey, watch your language. We might have little kids on this board and...Quote:
Originally Posted by somehobo
Oh.
Nevermind.
Aw. Our Jeremy finally found someone he can get the upper hand on. I'm so proud.
Four Swords was pretty fun, but only once.
lol!
You better not be on the computer without your homework done! You know the rules of the house!
Movin' on up, to tha big time! To that deluxe apartmanet, in the sky-yyyyyy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano on the Phone
You kiss your mother before you head off to middle school with that mouth?
I like Zelda too! I can't believe that TNL has stooped to the low of trolling 12 year olds. Oh TNL, who won't you troll?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
To be honest I'd be surprised if they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
Well I for one think this game looks good.
I got the new EGM in the mail yesterday and this is the cover story. Looks pretty good. They showed some pretty nice looking shots. I still don't think graphically this game is going to be all that stunning though.
the 3-d zeldas have never been about wowing with just graphics tho. its the uncanny way of all the parts coming together that makes the games appealing. kind of like blizzards games. between this and resident evil 4, i really want a GC again.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog007
I think all my threads are cursed
At least the recent ones. Damned Papa Shango. I'm really looking forward to this next Zelda. I'm expecting OoT's play with WOWing graphics. Dungeon count doesn't really matter to me. May God help them if they fuck up the music though.
what are you going to do
Enjoy the game slightly less, and maybe make an always-effective online petition against the game.
Post more whining.
So god help us, then.
Anything short of an orchestrated score ala SSB melee will be hugely dissapointing. Nintendo: you aren't developing on the N64 anymore, give us good music.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Four Swords belongs on DS, more than anything except Crystal Chronicles and Bomberman.
And dude... Don't focus on the fact that you're twelve. You're just setting yourself up.
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Shut up, troll...... ;)
I'm not really impressed with this info/game. This series should be moved to the game boy series full time.
Nintendo simply can not handle the pressure exerted on them to come up with the "NEXT BIG ZELDA RELEASE, OMG." No matter what they come up with, 50% will be happy and 50% will hate it, further killing their rep as a premier game creation studio. They have come up to the wall, and if they include multiplayer through the damn SP again, I'll burn down their mailbox. I can't believe they thought that would be their answer to xbox live and PS2 online. Anywho, I had hope at some point that Nintendo would let Capcom handle the series full time, but it fell by the wayside.
oh well, haven't played WW, won't play this.
Sorry for the rant...
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbuk$
50% + 50% still equals 100 percent of the people paying for the game. Zelda will still be the top selling game regardless of your opinion. Until the series releases a bunch of bad titles, it will still be the premier franchise. It takes 3 or 4 bad-mediocre games to kill a series (Look at Sonic). Zelda really hasn't had a "bad" title yet.
How you can have an opinion on the Zelda series and have not played WW is beyond me.
I have played every other game in the series.
50+50 percent of NINTENDO GAMECUBE OWNERS=.08% of Sony's market share. Sorry bro, more people bought GTA3 on PS2 in a week in the states than nintendo will get in the first 2 months of release.
In my opinion, yes that's right opinion, it won't be as good as Jade Empire or KOTOR 1 or 2, and that's that.
I'll stick with my X-box thx.
I loved nintendo back in the day, bionic commando, FF6, mega man, zelda, mario, gunsmoke (that game ruled). oh wait, er... I loved capcom and square when they mattered.
Exaggerate much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbuk$
You insinuate the series is getting tired, and you list KOTOR2 as a superior game. Ok.Quote:
In my opinion, yes that's right opinion, it won't be as good as Jade Empire or KOTOR 1 or 2, and that's that.
Much of the time, I feel guilty for lumping all x-box users in a similar group. Then I read messages like yours, and I don't feel so bad.Quote:
I'll stick with my X-box thx.
Sorry bro, but I don't see what that has to do with anything, Nor do I believe it's true; do you have any idea how many people bought Wind Waker, and how huge of a presale item it was?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbuk$
No one cares, shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbuk$
We are not all like the idiot here.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
You have over a month and a half of hours playing Halo2 this year, you don't count or get outside much.
I don't dislike Zelda, I'm not interested this year. I loved RE4 and Metroid, and too a smaller extent, TOS. I'm not a ninteno basher, I'm just not a fan of Zelda of late. That's all. I was the guy who liked The adventures of Link over the initial game as well so maybe I just don't get the series the way you guys do.
I thought Capcom did a wonderful job on the GB adaptations also.
Nintendo's games routinely trounced the top PS2 games in sales. There may be little to choose from, and Nintendo may release few titles, but they sell quite well. Zelda will outsell all the GTA games on all systems combined during the week of its launch.
I've got the PS2 and Cube. You can keep the Xbox.
GTA3 sold about eight million, GTA: SA sold about 12 million, VC sold about 10 million, etc. SA sold 3 million at launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
The total installed base of the GC is about 15 million...
Dont get me wrong, this new Zelda will be a huge success. Because really what is there on GameCube? It will sell a lot of copies. But I dont think this game is gonna be all that, and toxic, IMO, Minish Cap/WW/Majora's Mask were all pretty weak games, especially for Zelda. The series has been stumbling and all of these new games arent selling as well as the old ones (LTTP/Ocarina of Time/Link's Awakening) used to.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2004/12/0...erview_top.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by somehobo
I still like Zelda but I seriously have barely enough time to play Metroid, Mario my shooters, DC games and the rest is eaten up by handhelds like my PSP. Call me an old man but I have seriously started weighing my gaming time. I have other projects like writing and drawing and Zelda would cut into them. Or maybe I just need a game schedule. :p
I meant how well the GTAs will sell during Zelda's launch week, not how well they've sold before now.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I won't argue about the playability of the future Zelda game. Because you and I both know it's just going to be OoT with updated graphics.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
But, I think WW and MM were excellent departures from the series (Some even put them as thier favorites games in the series). Polarizing to some, but just Zelda with creative art design to others. Using Minish Cap as an example is pretty weak. Compare it to other series' GBA output (Splinter Cell, MGS, FF) and it is outstanding. Even compared it to other games in its genre (Shining Soul, Kingdom Hearts to a certain extent) and it is leagues better than those.
There is no franchise that has been as consistent in quality for over 20 years.
Compared to other Zelda games on GB, though, it is pitifully weak. And like I said the game just doesnt have the draw it used to... of course, if Zelda now has 50% of the draw that Zelda 95 did, its still more than most games, but the series just isnt what it used to be.Quote:
Using Minish Cap as an example is pretty weak. Compare it to other series' GBA output (Splinter Cell, MGS, FF) and it is outstanding. Even compared it to other games in its genre (Shining Soul, Kingdom Hearts to a certain extent) and it is leagues better than those.
There have been more Zelda games since 1999 then there was from 1985-1998. Its really diluted the series, especially since the lot of these games are just rehashes of previous efforts. Competent rehashes, but rehashes nonetheless. Thats my biggest problem with the series.
You fucking idiot, RoleTroll said the game would sell better than the GTA series combined, I posted those numbers to show it was impossible unless 15 million people buy the GC just for this game, and that wont happen of course.Quote:
Remember folks, if all else fails, post sales figures statistics.
Now, apparently I misunderstood what he was saying, but...
This should be obvious, and isnt a surprising statement at all.Quote:
I meant how well the GTAs will sell during Zelda's launch week, not how well they've sold before now.
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Whoopty flipping doo.
Remember folks, if all else fails, post sales figures statistics.
I was talking about both of you. I don't give a crap about sales figures in a Zelda thread is all. And as you just proved yourself, your reply was pointless since only a clueless newb out of their mind would say one single Zelda game would outsell all the GTA games' installed base. But hey, if sales figures and numbers are interesting then post away, Rain Man.Quote:
RoleTroll said the game would sell better than the GTA series combined, I posted those numbers to show it was impossible unless 15 million people buy the GC just for this game, and that wont happen of course.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
So are you saying that you would play it if it was an old un-original rehash of the original Zelda as compared to a rehash of Ocarina of Time?
Not that I really care because we all know you've transcended into a superior realm of "all console games suck" so your opinions while definitely interesting to read are moot to a lot of people here.
It does seem like Nintendo tries to placate the fans of its series though by keeping a lot of its games fundamentally similar to its previous incarnations.And, while I thankfully will probably be able to find enjoyment of what is probably going to be another rehash of OoT, I do kind of miss the age when Nintendo took more risks in originality - look at how different Super Mario Brothers 2 was from Super Mario Brothers 1, Adventures of Link from Zelda 1,Metroid Prime from Metroid,MArio 64 from Mario 3, etc.
When they go out on a limb and try something new - awesome I'll check it out.If they want to keep a similar style to a really good game in their latest offering then cool, I'll check that out too - So I guess I'm fortunate to not be really nitpicky...
One day I (or maybe all of us) will end up in the same state of mind of diff but until that happens I'm going to enjoy myself and not let anyone tell me whats fun and what isnt....
Well said, Jet. I too enjoy the "daring" 8-bit days when they were willing to wildly vary a sequel from the original. As you said they still do this once in awhile abit such as with Metroid Prime (though it still eumulates the old games brilliantly) And I seriously doubt I'll ever be as bored as diff myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
Anyways, Miyamoto and Aonuma just can't win. Miyamoto unveils WW and it's too kiddy/much too different (I was guilty of this viewpoint), then he allows Aonuma to make an epic "adult" Zelda and net monkeys cry "rehash." *yawn* Aonuma hinted in the new EGM that fan wishes for a return to the "adult" style of OoT did have a bit of influence, so whether you cry rehash or ya love it, you're getting the result of the collective outcry over WW's art style (coupled with a need for one more GC blockbuster of course).
This thread RULZ!
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Originally Posted by RoleTroll
WHAT? My point was Zelda will not sell as many copies of GTA3 at lauch,meaning, GTA3 sold more copies in it's first 2 weeks than Zelda will at launch. What the hell strawman argument are you trying to pull?
Why the hell would I compare an almost 2 year old game's sales with a new games figure?
Not only is part of that not true, it's also completely irrelevant. What would me playing a lot of Halo, or in theory not going outside much, have to do with anything you were talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daddy Warbuk$
If you seriously believe I think that, then youre on crack. Really bad crack.Quote:
Not that I really care because we all know you've transcended into a superior realm of "all console games suck"....
Wind Waker has absolutely some of the best graphics ever made. But the gameplay is lame. The gameplay is a rehash of Ocarina from beginning to end. Thats why I dont like the game, thats why I didnt like it upon release and thats always been my main criticism of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan
The hell are you talking about? For one thing, SMB2 was a totally different game released in America with Mario Sprites and new packaging, that had nothing to do with Nintendo taking a risk with a sequel (and the actual sequel that Nintendo did make was almost the exact same thing as SMB). For another, Prime was this generation and Mario 64 was last, making your supposed "age when Nintendo took risks" lasting the entire lengthspan that they've been making games. A game here or there isn't a constant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
I agree with everything said here.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Lucky for me I hadn't really played Ocarina or Majora's Mask, so WW was fresh enough that I loved every minute of it. Except the sailing, that got old.
As do I. Except I did play both Ocarina and Majora's Mask, and I still enjoyed Wind Waker immensly. Except that fucking fetch quest right before the last dungeon, that sucked, sucked hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Super Mario Brothers 2 is a fun game so it may not have been a risk to bring it over because of that reason, but smacking the Mario brothers in a game that doesnt play like the previous game IS a risk, as you can never really be sure how the public and fans will react to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
And you are right, there is a huge generation gap between some of the games I mentioned,and it sucks that it takes so long for Nintendo to evolve, but I guess, its better late than never, right? :\
I mean, what's the alternative? Just vegetate and let everything you do end up stale and non-inspired like Sega?
Your logic is backwards. They placed Mario characters in a game because it would sell with them; how many copies it would sell without would've been far fewer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
I think the point Diff is trying to make is that that very thing has already happened to Nintendo. I've enjoyed all the Zelda games I've played but it's not hard to see where he's coming from on that series.Quote:
I mean, what's the alternative? Just vegetate and let everything you do end up stale and non-inspired like Sega?
Backwards?,I hope not.Just saying that their was on obvious difference in gameplay between 1 and 2.It may have been a game not developed with Mario and his kin involved,like you say ,but it ended up a Mario game in the end - It is Super Mario Brothers 2.And it's a good game and it was different, that's all I'm trying to say.If Nintendo wants to go buy some other shit hot, game from another developer/programmer and throw Link or Samus or Kid Icarus in the starring role in it, and its a good game than fine, by me - that game will be Kid Icarus 2 or Super Mario Moonlight or Metroid Odd - whatever - its a risk -a change of pace if its different.And I'm happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
But,yeah,the lack of Mario franchise goodness in part 2 would have dropped sales of the title, but wouldnt have made it any less of a cool game obviously.I just dont read the monthly Top 10 Sales list to determine what games I buy.
I think the signs are there for sure. Nintendo is on the verge of either fucking things up totally or keeping its head above water.We'll find out this next generation with Revolution,Gameboy Advance 2,and whatever else is down the proverbial piping.So this next Zelda may be a nail in that coffin, or it may be what fans are looking for.Maybe they'll find new fans,like this,lose old ones, who knows - people change - diff is proof of this.I dont hate him for it. I like reading his opinions - they are interesting, if not a bit negative sometimes,but he's being honest, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechdeus
And I hope this next Zelda game rox my sox, I hope Nintendo doesnt fail,and I hope my kids' kids can play the latest incarnation of Zelda years in the future and have fun with it - and if they get stuck - than grandpappy Jetman can come in and show them how its done - " See Jr, Back in the day of the first Zelda games we had to tap the walls of the dungeons with our sword to see if it could be bombed ,like so....<ramble,ramble,ramble>" :link:
Kid Icarus 2 was interesting, and it was on GameBrick.
Yeah, Zelda just keeps going, but what do you want? They could've gone ahead with that puzzle game idea they had going a few years back, but besides that, a new Zelda's going to be a new Zelda. It'd be hard to make something too different and still similar enough to attract old fans. Minish was the only Zelda game since the first that i didn't absolutely love and that's only because i ran out of things to do way too fast.
Majora and Wind Waker were both pretty different outside of the main quest. Just playing through was same as always. Helping people and sailing around really made those two.
You know you all will be buying this game because you are weak weak nerds.
I also will be buying this game. *cries*
Well this is my first post about a game in a while.
Anyway, I read the EGM and Aonuma says that the game will have no DC/GB linking gimmicky shit as he wanted the game to stand on its own without that kind of stuff which is good to hear. The game will also have nothing to do with Four Swords.
Also from the looks of it, it's going to be huge world with different towns and such and not just a big hub of Hyrule. This makes the game feel less enclosed and satisfies my want for it to get some ideas from GTA like the huge stages.
I love that Link is just a regular townsman or "Cowboy Link" as he's referred to like the other games and it looks like there will be more NPC interaction. I'm not sure if this games fixes all the problems diffusionx had in mind but it seems that way.
My only potential issue is that the world may be too big like the Wind Waker (and the God damned boat stuff which made me stop playing the game altogether) and it'll take forever to get from place to place with just a horse but hopefully there will be faster ways of getting around.
From the shots I've seen of the game, it looks beautiful but also somewhat barren. That's to be expected with the countryside and that type of game though as it doesn't have any futuristic trappings. Link and the art style/direction look outstanding, more anime'ish like that article in the pics say but not really going for absolute realism.
I have hopes for this game as I've been wanting to play and finish a Zelda game since Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time which is the best Zelda game I've played so far. Majoras Mask and Wind Waker were very good Zelda games but never quite reached Miyamoto's masterpiece due to gameplay elements being too repetetive or lame or a puzzle or two that had my head scratching.
In Wind Waker...you got that warp song...right?
I think so, I don't quite remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I got pretty far in it but just stopped playing so I forgot some of my progress. I was thinking about picking it up where I left off and finish the damn thing at least but it'll feel weird since I pretty much forgot all the moves and items I had.
Starting over seems like a good idea now.