Official Nintendo Wii thread

From that small little blurb I gathered that Mr. Katamari is more put off by the fact that Nintendo brass and media stooges are touting the controller and its "revolutionary" ramifications MORE than they are focusing on software. Mr. Katamari is a software kinda guy, he only cares about games and game development from that side of the fence. He probably feels they should be focusing on creativity from that (software) standpoint.

I'm sure he would feel like developing a game for the revolution would be a hassle because he'd feel pressured to buy into the controller hype instead of just being left alone to make his little sandboxes.

Marble Madness with a trackball > my PS2 library.

Any who played adventure games on a console, or even FPS games on a console, knows the importance of a controller.

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Originally Posted by dog$

God forbid someone crticizes something for not being as innovative or important as many others would lead you to believe.

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It is pretty substancial when one of the world's largest publishers commits to taking a risk in the hopes of advancing gaming past the "better graphics means better games" mentality plaguing the industry at the moment.

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Considering that the Rev will be substantially underpowered compared to the competition, I fail to see why anyone would want to make a game for it that doesn't utilize the controller's features.

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Yet games on Xbox 360 are ported to Xbox and PS2 with relative ease, if the costs are greatly reduced for producing on the Revolution then it'll be worth their time.

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Probably not much better than using a trackball, like Marble Madness did a decade ago.

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It's a totally different input.

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Yet games on Xbox 360 are ported to Xbox and PS2 with relative ease, if the costs are greatly reduced for producing on the Revolution then it'll be worth their time.

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Like what? GRAW? That looks like a piece of shit on Xbox? Please.

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It's a totally different input.

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Go you on missing his point.

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It is pretty substancial when one of the world's largest publishers commits to taking a risk in the hopes of advancing gaming past the "better graphics means better games" mentality plaguing the industry at the moment.

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This is horse shit. The best developers are all advancing gameplay. Or are you gonna try to convince me that Oblivion is better than Morrowind just because of graphics?

Red Steel is a fairly average looking shooter that uses a gimmick commonly seen in crappy arcade games. Maybe that's the "revolution" you want in gaming. Im skeptical, though.

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Originally Posted by dog$

Probably not much better than using a trackball, like Marble Madness did a decade ago.

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Yes, most of the controller's functions aren't new. But knowing that every Rev owner can play a trackball or light gun game should, at the very least, give us a flood of arcade ports that could never be adequately brought home in the past.

If you really cared about playing Centipede (or Marble Madness for that matter) perfectly there was a trackball controller for PlayStation. AgentX if he still posts here could tell you all about it.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Like what? GRAW? That looks like a piece of shit on Xbox? Please.

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And the point Nintendo was making with the Revolution is that pushing better graphics doesn't improve the game and shouldn't be a focus. GRAW on Xbox plays pretty well, BTW.

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Go you on missing his point.

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Been-there-done-that, this is untrue. It's an entirely different style of input. If anything he should point to SMB on the GBA as an example.

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Red Steel is a fairly average looking shooter that uses a gimmick commonly seen in crappy arcade games. Maybe that's the "revolution" you want in gaming. Im skeptical, though.

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I guess every game sounds bad when you over simplify its meat and potatoes. There's a lot of melee combat thrown in and a respect system or some shit to help vary the game storyline in to branches (so doing the same shit over and over doesn't help your cause). Everyone is skeptical at this point, you're ridiculously doubtful.

GRAW is a game where you and your squad go around shooting terrorists. Sounds the same as every other Ghost Recon game, except when you go in and play it and find out how fucking awesome it is.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Yet games on Xbox 360 are ported to Xbox and PS2 with relative ease

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It's actually the exact opposite. Games developed for Xbox an PS2 are being ported to 360 with reletive ease. No game developed for 360 has been ported to Xbox or PS2. This includes GRAW, which for Xbox and PS2 had a completely seperate development team working on a completely seperate engine. Which might I add looks like complete shit.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

This is horse shit. The best developers are all advancing gameplay. Or are you gonna try to convince me that Oblivion is better than Morrowind just because of graphics?

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I've got a news flash for you. There is nothing advanced about the gameplay in Oblivion. Gameplay like that has been done before and better. That isn't what makes Oblivion great.

The Revolution controller is indeed gimmicky, but the limitations it puts on developers is probably a good way to nurture innovation on the system. Change is good and exciting in the world of videogames, and the possibilites are right there for the Revolution.

Takahashi is right though as far as this: innovative developers are going to make innovative games with or without a crazy controller. And the Revolution and its controller are only going to be as good as the software made for it. I guess 'software' has been a major part of Nintendo's rhetoric for awhile now, but we'll see.

So, EVERYONE IS RIGHT. YAY