Tipping Etiqutte

I tip my hairdresser $5. One reason you tip the person that cuts your hair is that they usually get 50% or less of the cost of your cut; usually less. That's how they're paid in most places. And it usually depends on what level of hairdresser they are, based by their employers on years since they were licensed. So lower level hairdressers will get 25%, 30%, 40% of the cost of the cut. They aren't getting paid by the hour.

The guy behind the Starbucks counter is not making below minimum wage to be subsidized by tips like a waitperson in many states. You work at a coffee shop counter and move three feet side to side getting the coffee. You don't get a tip. The cost of the cup of coffee is enough.

I was being drastic, but that is what a tip is to me. But I never tip because I never have the chance to tip. Maybe because I am poor or because I never put myself in a situation where I need to tip. If you want to shit in my pizza you will have to come over to my house and stick your bum into my 450 degree oven.

However I do not like the idea because these people are paid to do these jobs. I KNOW they are paid poorly and this is bad, but instead of the problem being fixed by employers, we are forced to "tip"? It isn't even a TIP anymore, it is just expected from people, it doesn't mean anything. They night as well fix the prices in like some places do.

Youre acting like a disgruntled teenager who thinks he's badass because he doesnt "accept how the world works" and think he's better than anyone else for it. Its a courtesy, a show of thanks because they drove to deliver your fucking food to you while you sit around. If its a bad situation (as you said it is), then you have the opportunity to help change it, by GIVING THEM A TIP! Its not so hard.

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Isn't the cost of just about everything in France "compris" (tip included)?

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Not as far as I'm concerned; if you were to eat at pizza hut, you would tip, so the same rule would aply for deliveries, except that you're being extorted then.

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Originally Posted by Revoltor

It doesn't matter. Any pizza that isn't from New York (or possibly Chicago) isn't worth eating anyway.

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Chicago pizza = not even close. Way overrated. It's good for what it is, but what it is is not New York Pizza. And New York Pizza = Pizza.

I'm appalled at some of the shit that passes for pizza in this country.

Go to New Haven, CT, where the best pizza in the US is actually served.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

I'm appalled at some of the shit that passes for pizza in this country.

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Id agree with you, but Ive had good pizza in Minnesota of all places, and there are some great places around UCLA (though most pizza in California is worthless).

Well I haven't been able to find a really good NYC-style pizza anywhere but around here. I just haven't lucked out I guess: it's totally possible for someone with the knowledge to try to spread it to other areas of the country.

The other thing I can't understand is why I can't find a really good bagel in other areas of our nation. When I lived in Illinois there were places selling nasty, rubbery Rosemary Tomato bagels, and like strawberry kiwi bagels, and I just couldn't wrap my mind around it.

My general theory: The farther you get from the coasts the worse the food gets.
The same with major metropolitan areas. A random italian restaurant in downtown NYC > a random italian restaurant in downtown CHI > a random italian restaurant in a mini mall in Kentucky.

Of course there are exceptions...and big exceptions, like I'm sure a chicken fried steak or a country breakfast along an interstate in Kentucky beats similar meals here. It just seems the quality of the food itself, and not necessarily the preparation, declines the farther inward you get.

Smith & Wollensky's in Chi = best steak I've ever had. This post was totally off topic. Woo.

Good service = good tip.

Average service = average tip.

Shit service = no tip.

Well, no tip, or something insulting like 7 pennies at the bottom of my water glass.

And always tip delivery guys as long as they're not retardedly late.

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Originally Posted by Revoltor

You know what fucking sucks? Gratuity charges.

You get shit service and you're still forced to tip.

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That pisses me off too, and I don't play along with it. I was in a resturant in Manhattan last year and the service was fucking abysmal. Then I got the check and noticed a 'gratuity charge' had been included. Screw that. I asked to see the manager, told him how horrible the service was, and refused to pay the gratuity. He took off he charge.

On the other hand, my gf and I went to TGIFriday's the other night. She ordered a cheeseburger, but while waiting for it her stomach started acting up (she was just getting over a virus), so she didn't touch it when it got to the table. I had it wrapped, and naturally expected to pay for it. When the waitress (who was great to begin with) found out the problem she had the burger taken off the bill, which was a nice surprise. The adjusted check ended up being 20 bucks so I tipped her 8.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Youre acting like a disgruntled teenager who thinks he's badass because he doesnt "accept how the world works" and think he's better than anyone else for it. Its a courtesy, a show of thanks because they drove to deliver your fucking food to you while you sit around. If its a bad situation (as you said it is), then you have the opportunity to help change it, by GIVING THEM A TIP! Its not so hard.

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No, it is just my opinion of what I think a tip is for and what it means. I am fully aware of your thoughts towards it and understand what you are saying. If they fixed prices to pay for these people, I would still tip someone if I felt their service was amazing. Now it is like "Well I have to tip this person even though they just did a normal job, because they get payed poorly."