Tipping Etiqutte

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Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

Before this thread, I wasn't aware of the practice of restaurants collecting tips and then divvying them up equally at close. That's total bullshit. A bad waiter walks away with the same amount as a good one, and a good one gets less than they actually made because of the bad ones' bad tips bringing down the average.

Next time I get waited on really poorly, I'll make damn sure I find a manager and let them know what I left and why.

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Maybe it depends on the place, but my friend used to work at Chillis and the tips weren't collected and split equally. What he had to do was pay off certain members of the staff (busser, cooks, etc...) at the end of the day. So the tip you gave the waiter actually goes to everyone that contributed to your meal. Of course, the waiter will keep the most of the tips and it's not split evenly. Would be kinda unfair if the cook gets half of every waiter's tips... Because of this, my friends and I usually leave a good tip.

There was only one time that we left no tip whatsoever. The service was HORRIBLE! The waiter didn't give us our stuff till we asked for it and he was nowhere to be found the whole time. We actually had to go downstairs and ask someone to take our order! He was rude, too. He practically dropped our food on the table and walked away without even asking if we needed anything. I'd figure that with a table of 14 people, you'd at least TRY to do the bare minimum that's expected of you. We did look rather ghetto (it was 4th of July and we just came from the beach) so that might be a factor, also.

The only time he was actually there was when he gave us the bill, where he proceeded to stand behind us all and wait for the money. Probably thinking we'd eat and not pay. The waiter actually had the NERVE to demand for his tip after we paid the check, saying that they survive on tips. We know very well that you do, one of us owns a restaurant and a few of us worked at one before. Earn your tip. Don't expect one if you didn't do shit to deserve one.

In most restaruants, at the end of a shift, waiters "tip out". The tips are split up between the waiters, kitchen staff/bus boys. I'm pretty sure waiters get the higher percentage.

Average tips are usually 15% and I've seen on a lot of menus that if you have a party of 8 or more 20% is added to the check for gratuity. I know a lot of people who wait/have waited in all sorts of places. They all live off their tips.

And I agree that a delivery guy should get tipped well. A lot more work (depending of course). And if you go to a place a lot, it helps to be a good tipper, or at least don't become the guy known for being a shitty tipper. They're with your food for awhile before you even see it.

I always base tips on service (like you should). If they are paying attention and are nice, I'll tip better.

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Originally Posted by Valgar

However I do not like the idea because these people are paid to do these jobs. I KNOW they are paid poorly and this is bad, but instead of the problem being fixed by employers, we are forced to "tip"? It isn't even a TIP anymore, it is just expected from people, it doesn't mean anything. They night as well fix the prices in like some places do.

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Then call it a gratuity jerk.

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Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

Hehe. I have a Filipino friend who would agree with you.

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Its all cultural I guess. I wish everybody was a good tipper. Then there would be more money to make in the service industry and the service would improve all around.

I tip the basic 15%, with extra if the service was really good. I don't tip my barber because I've been going to the same place for like the last 10 years, and they just charge the same thing. I think they might factor tip into the price, I dunno, if they told me I was supposed to tip I'd gladly do it.

I never have to worry about tipping delivery drivers because no one around here delivers. Which sucks.

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Originally Posted by Master

Then call it a gratuity jerk.

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I tell ya, if the waitress was nice enough to give me a 'gratuity jerk' I'd pay well over 15%.

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Originally posted by Rumpy
In most restaruants, at the end of a shift, waiters "tip out". The tips are split up between the waiters, kitchen staff/bus boys. I'm pretty sure waiters get the higher percentage.

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I think that's true. I used to know someone who washed dishes in a really crappy restaurant, and even the waiters there looked down on him, so I guess they get more than the kitchen boys, given that's how much respect they have.

That's pretty unfair though if it's true, as I'm sure the kitchen staff work harder, or non-stop at least, and the work they're doing isn't really pleasant, so I think it would actually be fair if they got more tip than waiters.

Whats the deal with the fastfood joint Sonic. I hate there food so I only go for like slushies or what not but people have told me they tip because they bring it out to you. Does any one do this? I don't, I never thought I had to.

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Originally Posted by Master

Its all cultural I guess. I wish everybody was a good tipper.

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So is not needing to tip just so the guy can eat. Some countries pay their wait staff a living wage and even give decent amounts of vacation time (pretty sure that's the case in the UK and Italy).

I tip 15%, but I'm not above not tipping if service is awful or tipping 25%+ if it's wonderful.

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Originally Posted by Master

Is it because black people are horrible tippers? Because they are. Call it racist, but in every restaurant in America they fight over who has to serve the black people because they know they will be run ragged for a shitty tip.

And don't tell me the exceptions to the rule. I get it, there are people who don't fit the stereotype. Great. That doesn't change the fact that most of the time this and many others are true.

Just thinking about people not tipping in restaurants gets me so angry.

Phillippinos are also horrible tippers.

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Haha I was just adding a racist joke for the sake of it, but yes, I added that joke based on how true it is. Black waiters, unless they're gay or actually appreciate their job and their customers, are typically rude, loud and annoying. Black customers, unless they're lawyers, never leave a fucking tip, or will give you a dollar for their $200 10 person extended family meal, and this is after they argue how expensive it is when they were already cutting it low. My waitress friends are all developing a racist side because of this. A couple of them have actually looked for jobs in different restaurants where black people don't usually go, such as a sushi bar or a club setting mostly with white people.

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Originally Posted by burky

That's pretty unfair though if it's true, as I'm sure the kitchen staff work harder, or non-stop at least, and the work they're doing isn't really pleasant, so I think it would actually be fair if they got more tip than waiters.

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Usually they get 5-10% of all the tips, on top of above minimum wage. The waiters get below minimum wage plus about 75% of their tips (they split about 5-10% extra to the boss or for taxes, credit card expenses, and all sorts of shit the boss should pay himself). I think it's fair to give the kitchen a few extra bucks based on how busy it got, but nothing more.

When I go out to dinner, I usually double the tax and make that the tip, give or take a few dollars...you know, depending on how good the service is at the place. TrialSword and I went to Friendly's a few weeks ago for his birthday, and we waited in the booth for 20 minutes before anyone took our orders.

Regarding haircut tips, I leave money for the woman that cuts my hair and for the woman that washes it beforehand, they usually get 3-4 bucks each.

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Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

Before this thread, I wasn't aware of the practice of restaurants collecting tips and then divvying them up equally at close. That's total bullshit. A bad waiter walks away with the same amount as a good one, and a good one gets less than they actually made because of the bad ones' bad tips bringing down the average.

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Every server will tell you that they like it. (most anyway) Every server is going to be have an off night eventually. The averaging helps them overcome these obstacles. And bad servers usually get bitched out by other servers because they're costing them tips.

The server that sucked last night may be awesome for the next 3.