Wal-Mart store tells workers to be ready to work any shift or they're fired.

Printable View

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

16 Jun 2005, 01:54 AM
Regus

Wal-Mart store tells workers to be ready to work any shift or they're fired.

Quote:

Workers who cannot commit to being available for any shift between 7 a.m. and 11 p.m., seven days a week, will be fired by the end of this week. The store employs more than 400 workers.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...rt-shift_x.htm
This is only at this particular location for those who won't click the link.

lol, I'd walk out the door if they pulled something like that where I work. Sucks for the people who are working two jobs or those who have little inconveniences such as having to go to school or trying to have a social life.
16 Jun 2005, 02:07 AM
Revoltor

Holy shit. There's a town called "NITRO!!!".

Anyway, I wouldn't stand for it for the same reasons you stated. Unfortunately most people nowadays take hours where they can get them even if it's for shit pay.

It's not like there aren't hundreds of other people next in line for your job.
16 Jun 2005, 02:08 AM
Vasteel

A nice addition to their union busting tactics, and general policy of fucking any of their employees who try to collect workers comp. or make a claim on their insurance. Wal-Mart needs to rot in hell forever.
16 Jun 2005, 02:09 AM
Revoltor

DAMN THEIR DVD BARGAIN BIN!!!
16 Jun 2005, 02:24 AM
johnk_

not much new here.. This is the kind of thing they've been doing to get to where they are today.

It's capitalism. Love it or move out.
16 Jun 2005, 02:38 AM
Vasteel

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnk_

It's capitalism. Love it or move out.

Or fight back. Viva la revolucion!!!
16 Jun 2005, 02:39 AM
avatar

Yeah fight back and be some poor black guy in mexico. FUck that.
16 Jun 2005, 02:39 AM
Drewbacca

I wish I could shop at this location to support the new policy.
16 Jun 2005, 03:00 AM
James

I wish every WalMart in the country (and what the hell, the foreign ones too) would spontaneously combust. Where's those damn terrorists when you finally have a target you want blown up, anyway?

You know, I almost censored that last line but then decided not to be a pansy.

James
16 Jun 2005, 03:04 AM
Revoltor

Why would you want to kill 400 innocent minimum-wage workers?

Terrorists aren't that retarded.
16 Jun 2005, 03:51 AM
James

Quote:

Terrorists aren't that retarded.

Yes they are. They killed 3000 office workers, after all.

Let's say there's 10,000 Walmarts worldwide. We'll blow them up at night, when the staff is at its lowest. Then I'd realize taking seriously a crack like "I want to blow up all WalMarts" is stupid, and not bother.

James
16 Jun 2005, 04:09 AM
NightWolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Let's say there's 10,000 Walmarts worldwide. We'll blow them up at night, when the staff is at its lowest. Then I'd realize taking seriously a crack like "I want to blow up all WalMarts" is stupid, and not bother.

How about we just get rid of all the hand-wringing anti-Walmart Nazis like you? You don't contribute anything to the economy and are essentially worthless after all. You gonna provide me with a cheap substitute for my shopping needs when they're gone? No? Well, I thought not that's why I like my idea better.
16 Jun 2005, 04:12 AM
Revoltor

I stopped supporting mom and pop shops when I realized they were all scamming cocksucking bastards.

Anyway, James would make the worst terrorist/freedom fighter ever.
16 Jun 2005, 04:49 AM
Clash!

"Hey guys, howabout this! Now just here me out...we BLOW UP all of the WAL-MARTS!? Eh, pretty good right?"

Then cut to James strapped with explosives trying to hop onto a bus.
16 Jun 2005, 05:03 AM
arjue

wtf? Don't workers have rights in America?
16 Jun 2005, 05:09 AM
Rhydant

Nope.
16 Jun 2005, 05:16 AM
Mman

Not Walmart...walmart is its own international jursidiction...far more powerful than NATO.
16 Jun 2005, 05:26 AM
arjue

you must have pussy unions.
16 Jun 2005, 05:28 AM
Revoltor

The unions are worse.

They're holding back the digital movie projector revolution. Fuck those assholes.
16 Jun 2005, 05:34 AM
station82o

"It shouldn't cause any problem, if they are concerned about their customers," Knuckles said."

Arggh, the corporate mentality of believing that minimum wage employees really care about THEIR customers. Amusing.

If I worked there I'd quit in spectacular fashion, life's too short to put up with that shit.
16 Jun 2005, 05:42 AM
Revoltor

Dude, even people who get paid 15-20 dollars an hour could give a shit less about their customers.
16 Jun 2005, 06:35 AM
youandwhosearmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnk_

not much new here.. This is the kind of thing they've been doing to get to where they are today.

It's capitalism. Love it or move out.

K. I don't johnnyfive, I've lived in this country my whole life and worked a lot of retail jobs, and I have never once been fed that one. I'm pretty sure them saying that violates quite a few labor union laws, someone should probably look into that.
16 Jun 2005, 08:24 AM
xXsarahXx

Thats really bad, can they do that?
Ive never heard of that over here. Someone should take them to court or something. Theres no way id accept that, like someone else said what happens if your a student and your working a few jobs to help keep your head above water? Do they seriously expect people to drop what they are doing just to go to work at their every beck and call?! Fuck that, thats all i can say.
16 Jun 2005, 11:14 AM
Fe 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjue

you must have pussy unions.

No, we have evil ones that are heavily connected to the mob. Fuck with them and you could end up dead.
16 Jun 2005, 12:37 PM
johnk_

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

K. I don't johnnyfive, I've lived in this country my whole life and worked a lot of retail jobs, and I have never once been fed that one. I'm pretty sure them saying that violates quite a few labor union laws, someone should probably look into that.

Ever worked at a Wal-Mart?

all i'm saying is that the reason you haven't heard that before at wherever else you worked is because none of those companies has gotten to be as large as wal-mart has.
16 Jun 2005, 01:23 PM
sphere79

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightWolve

How about we just get rid of all the hand-wringing anti-Walmart Nazis like you? You don't contribute anything to the economy and are essentially worthless after all. You gonna provide me with a cheap substitute for my shopping needs when they're gone? No? Well, I thought not that's why I like my idea better.

None of that will matter when you can no longer afford to buy much of anything because you won't be able to find a decent paying job within the US borders. And only when you've had to face a 200,000 sq. ft. 24-hour "Super" Wal-Mart potenially being built less than a mile from your house will you know about anti-Walmart "Nazi's". I'm not saying they don't have the right to exist, but they are part of an increasing "lowest common denominator" trend that while currently providing US consumers with cheap shit is going to ultimately hurt our standard of living.
16 Jun 2005, 02:13 PM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjue

you must have pussy unions.

Newsflash! Unions are a bad thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revoltor

Dude, even people who get paid 15-20 dollars an hour could give a shit less about their customers.

Having been in that group several years ago, I agree.
16 Jun 2005, 02:25 PM
Dolemite

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revoltor

Dude, even people who get paid 15-20 dollars an hour could give a shit less about their customers.

I don't think Walmart employees get paid that much.
16 Jun 2005, 02:28 PM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by arjue

you must have pussy unions.

No unions at Walmart. They threaten to close down any store or department that tries to form one.
16 Jun 2005, 02:37 PM
Schlep

Quote:

Originally Posted by epmode

No unions at Walmart. They threaten to close down any store or department that tries to form one.

Whoever believes that is stupid. Then again, they work at Walmart.
16 Jun 2005, 02:45 PM
Dolemite

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep

Whoever believes that is stupid. Then again, they work at Walmart.

McDonalds has done it.
16 Jun 2005, 04:15 PM
animegirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clash!

"Hey guys, howabout this! Now just here me out...we BLOW UP all of the WAL-MARTS!? Eh, pretty good right?"

You have to destroy the heart. It's behind the plasma TVs!
16 Jun 2005, 04:32 PM
jonas

I'm pretty sure this is illegal. People have rights. Just because some idiot boss thinks his power goes above the law, doesn't mean it does.
16 Jun 2005, 04:43 PM
frostwolf ex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep

Whoever believes that is stupid. Then again, they work at Walmart.

woah there doggy, you are the wrong one there, a recent case happened in quebec where store voted to be unionized, it was immediatly set for closing because it had posted "poor sales" and this is in canada, where unions are stronger. ill post a link later on this story,as well as a link to why you cant get service meats in wal marts with grocery stores, because the meat-cutters wanted to unionize,and they cut the whole department and went to prepackaged meats. in america unions are pretty much gutted, i work for a union and support unions, one reason i dont shop wal mart and contract engotiaons are consistantly stalled by corperations who take benefits back right and left and blame it on the job market because of walmart. a recent supermarket news magazine even joyously declared the new negotiating territory becasue of the lack of employment alternatives brought on by walmart.

as for this current situation,ya know, it sounds worse than it is, many jobs will stipulate that you have to be avalable 7 days a week within specified hours. this does not mean that you have to be on call to come in those hours when you arent schedualed, but trather that they cant hire someone who has a restrictive school schedual or is working another job, sounds harsh but its a nightmare to plan around such scheduals, so i can see them having this as part of a hiring policy. What makes this look bad, as it often is with walmart, is that they seem to be enforcing a policy on existing hires, now, if they were hired with the understanding that they had to be available those hours anyhow, i actually dont see this as that bad, it more an enforcement of policy than anything. if they werent, than im not surprised because thats how wal-mart rolls, screw the workers and lets pretend we are doing it for the customers becasue that sounds better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Newsflash! Unions are a bad thing.

.

newsflash!! you are very, very wrong, but then again with your job you probably dont care for them much.

best article i found on the topic, unfortunatly a subscribe site, just phony soemthing and get in, very infromative here
16 Jun 2005, 05:24 PM
Saint of Killers

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Newsflash! Unions are a bad thing.

Yeah, workers shouldn't have rights. Fuckers should be working 14 hours a day for 14 cents. Goddamn liberals are trying to destroy the economy with their "minimum wage" and "overtime" bullshit.

And while we're at it, we should do something about those absolutely ridiculous child labor laws.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

as for this current situation,ya know, it sounds worse than it is, many jobs will stipulate that you have to be avalable 7 days a week within specified hours.

Most of those jobs pay a little more than $6.50 an hour.
16 Jun 2005, 05:28 PM
frostwolf ex

yes saint, but thats a seperate issue. you will find most jobs that pay like that will have the same stipulations, im not saying that its right, though if you really want a change, be prepared to pay alot more for what youa re buying now. thats part of a far larger discussion of realistic living wages in america, but its only misrepresentation if they werent informed when they were hired that they would need to be available during those specified times.
16 Jun 2005, 05:46 PM
Rhydant

Unions were setup to protect worker's rights.

And now there are local, state, and federal regulations for that kind of thing.

The only thing Unions are good for now is getting a raise. And thats a bad thing. A company has to pay it's workers more, thus driving up the price of their goods and services. Everyone else follows suit.

And what does that get us?

INFLATION!
16 Jun 2005, 06:01 PM
Eirikur

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonas

I'm pretty sure this is illegal. People have rights. Just because some idiot boss thinks his power goes above the law, doesn't mean it does.

It's not illegal at all. A business is allowed to set out certain requirements for their jobs, such as this. If you can't work the hours they require, you can't work there. It's unfair, yes, but most definently not illegal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

K. I don't johnnyfive, I've lived in this country my whole life and worked a lot of retail jobs, and I have never once been fed that one. I'm pretty sure them saying that violates quite a few labor union laws, someone should probably look into that.

It does violate several labor union laws. Wal-Mart, however, does not have unions so it can do a lot more shit with their employees than most other business, such as this. They've been doing this for several years and look where it has gotten them; they're always getting awards for their customer service and shit (look it up).
16 Jun 2005, 06:15 PM
dakidski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

Most of those jobs pay a little more than $6.50 an hour.

You are kidding, right? God, suddenly I feel so privileged...
16 Jun 2005, 06:24 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by station82o

"It shouldn't cause any problem, if they are concerned about their customers," Knuckles said."

Arggh, the corporate mentality of believing that minimum wage employees really care about THEIR customers. Amusing.

ain't that the fucking truth

pay people decently give them full time hours, maybe some benefits, and allow them to have a life outside of the work place and maybe then they'll actually give two shits weither the store makes money or not

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakidski

You are kidding, right? God, suddenly I feel so privileged...

your average retail employee probably makes if they're lucky somewhere in the range of 6 - 8 bucks an hour and pretty much every chain has decided that they dont want to give people benefits so they dont have full time employees any more with most retail workers lucky to work 20 - 30 hours a week

now try to live on that
16 Jun 2005, 06:30 PM
Doc Holliday

Walmart just needs to just push legislation to become Chinese Embassies in order to take advantage of their labor laws...

...either that or just get on the ball with employing those T-800's.
16 Jun 2005, 06:36 PM
dakidski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

your average retail employee probably makes if they're lucky somewhere in the range of 6 - 8 bucks an hour and pretty much every chain has decided that they dont want to give people benefits so they dont have full time employees any more with most retail workers lucky to work 20 - 30 hours a week

now try to live on that

I'd rather not... I dunno if I could justify shopping at a place like that actually, it would be immoral somehow. Worst thing is; they probably expect this worker to smile. Regarding the disregard to paying benefits by hiring part-time workers only; nasty! Now I am actually glad we don't have Walmart in Scandinavia.
16 Jun 2005, 06:38 PM
SpoDaddy

At my job (retail) I have to be able to work any 5 out of 7 days of the week in 8 hour shifts anywhere between 9 am and 9:30 pm. I would love to have a 9-5 with weekends off, but it's hard to find a well paying 9-5 sales job.
16 Jun 2005, 06:39 PM
J2d

Thank god that they haven't set up shop here, yet.
16 Jun 2005, 06:40 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Newsflash! Unions are a bad thing.

Unions are the best thing that ever happened to this country. Before the union workers in every line of work were being cruelly exploited, and not in the wimpy way these people are; I'm talking slave wages, atrocious conditions, systems of debt that left you OWING money to the companies you slaved for, etc.

Anyone who supports that kind of business is a criminal, pure and simple.
16 Jun 2005, 06:45 PM
dakidski

Well, perhaps you yanks brought it upon yourself; so greedy for the $ that he sold out his fellow man...

I don't know.. that shit wouldn't go down well here.
16 Jun 2005, 06:46 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakidski

Well, perhaps you yanks brought it upon yourself; so greedy for the $ that he sold out his fellow man...

I don't know.. that shit wouldn't go down well here.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Oh, it's you.
16 Jun 2005, 06:50 PM
voltz

When I worked for a fast food joint, the best thing I had working around call-ins was the use of an answering machine to handle who's calling. I dunno how that would handle with wal-mart, but if they got the gall to fire someone just for not picking up the phone, then they have overstepped their legal bounds.
16 Jun 2005, 06:52 PM
Doc Holliday

http://www.supportourribbons.com/mak...n.php?id=10613

http://www.supportourribbons.com/mak...n.php?id=10614
16 Jun 2005, 06:54 PM
voltz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dry Back

http://www.supportourribbons.com/mak...n.php?id=10613

http://www.supportourribbons.com/mak...n.php?id=10614

Ok, I'm actually gonna have to order those.
16 Jun 2005, 06:58 PM
Brand X

Quote:

Originally Posted by dakidski

I don't know.. that shit wouldn't go down well here.

Many things that happen in your country could never happen in America because of one simple comparison of numbers, population.

Denmak -- 5,432,335

United States -- 295,734,134

Oh yeah, there is also a no Denmark rule on this message board, so please leave.
16 Jun 2005, 06:58 PM
frostwolf ex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhydant

Unions were setup to protect worker's rights.

And now there are local, state, and federal regulations for that kind of thing.

The only thing Unions are good for now is getting a raise. And thats a bad thing. A company has to pay it's workers more, thus driving up the price of their goods and services. Everyone else follows suit.

And what does that get us?

INFLATION!

i sincerely hope you are joking
16 Jun 2005, 07:00 PM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

Unions are the best thing that ever happened to this country. Before the union workers in every line of work were being cruelly exploited, and not in the wimpy way these people are; I'm talking slave wages, atrocious conditions, systems of debt that left you OWING money to the companies you slaved for, etc.

Anyone who supports that kind of business is a criminal, pure and simple.

Because all of these things are very applicable in this day and age.

Unions are organized crime. The free market has ways of dealing with “problems” like this naturally without the use of them or stupid laws.
16 Jun 2005, 07:03 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

Unions are organized crime.

Overstated propaganda. You show me the crime lords who run the coal mining unions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

The free market has ways of dealing with “problems” like this naturally without the use of them or stupid laws.

There is absolutely no evidence of this in real observed economics. The concept of functional laissez faire capitalism is about as realistic as the global socialist utopia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

Because all of these things are very applicable in this day and age.

If the unions hadn't come along they would be, that's the point.
16 Jun 2005, 07:04 PM
Brand X

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

Unions are organized crime.

:wtf: :eep: :wtf:
16 Jun 2005, 07:09 PM
J2d

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

Oh yeah, there is also a no Denmark rule on this message board, so please leave.

One would think that you two would get a long seeing as Denmark is your lapdog ;)
16 Jun 2005, 07:11 PM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

Overstated propaganda. You show me the crime lords who run the coal mining unions.

You don't read much about UAW do you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

There is absolutely no evidence of this in real observed economics. The concept of functional laissez faire capitalism is about as realistic as the global socialist utopia.

There is no reason it wouldn't work. If people would just realize that they totally and completely control companies like Wal-Mart things would actually change. But everyone is a pussy and never does anything about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

If the unions hadn't come along they would be, that's the point.

Yeah just like we would still have slavery today if it wasn't for the thirteenth amendment.
16 Jun 2005, 07:12 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by J2d

One would think that you two would get a long seeing as Denmark is your lapdog ;)

More like a groupie. I mean really, what are we depending on the Danes for again?
16 Jun 2005, 07:51 PM
dakidski

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

More like a groupie. I mean really, what are we depending on the Danes for again?

Bacon, you fool! Oh, and support in your wars and foreign policies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J2d

One would think that you two would get a long seeing as Denmark is your lapdog ;)

Denmark answers to no-one. You have just been brainwashed to believe that by your social-democrat overlords. Once in the very near future, Skåne, Halland and Blekinge will sway the danish flag, lets see if you are so cocky then, young swede! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

Many things that happen in your country could never happen in America because of one simple comparison of numbers, population.

Denmak -- 5,432,335

United States -- 295,734,134

Oh yeah, there is also a no Denmark rule on this message board, so please leave.

Overruled.
Ps. you are right about the numbers though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Oh, it's you.

come over here and let me pour some poison in your shakespearian ear.
16 Jun 2005, 07:54 PM
ChaoofNee

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

K. I don't johnnyfive, I've lived in this country my whole life and worked a lot of retail jobs, and I have never once been fed that one. I'm pretty sure them saying that violates quite a few labor union laws, someone should probably look into that.

I agree with you, and I'm a semi-conservative, corporate whore.
Wal-Mart is evilness and must be stopped.
16 Jun 2005, 10:19 PM
Blacklight85

Walmart blows, target is much better. Walmart is a death sentence to every independently owned business in every town they open up in.
16 Jun 2005, 10:48 PM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacklight85

Walmart blows, target is much better. Walmart is a death sentence to every independently owned business in every town they open up in.

Yes, because Target is much better. Target, Best Buy, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, they are all the exact same thing. If you think a Home Depot is better for local businesses than Wal-Mart you are delusional.
16 Jun 2005, 10:59 PM
Drewbacca

Shopping is shopping. Walmart provides a service to us, it's not their fault they get better sales than a Mom and Pop shop. Mom and Pop Shops usually overcharge people for small goods and services anyway.

I like being able to go to the same store to buy an action figure and jello for my nephew.
16 Jun 2005, 11:30 PM
voltz

The small business excuse doesn't cut it anymore, we've seen it happen with every other place that drive them off. The real hate stems from how they treat their own employees, which goes as far as to screw with benefits and other things.
16 Jun 2005, 11:42 PM
gamevet

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

If you think a Home Depot is better for local businesses than Wal-Mart you are delusional.

At least Home Depot pays decent wages and gives it's employees shares of stock in the company. I know a guy that bought his house, using the 38K in shares of Home Depot as collateral to back the loan.
16 Jun 2005, 11:49 PM
EMAGDNIM

Fuck Wal-Mart... Thats all from me...K thx
16 Jun 2005, 11:53 PM
Six

Without The Man stepping in there's really nothing that can be done. Thanks to their massive market created by the vast number and location of their stores Wal-Mart sets their own prices on just about everything. The best part is they claim to have family values and refuse to sell CDs with excessive cursing on them. Then they lock overnight employees in the store to prevent shrink and let one nearly die because he couldn't get out after an accident.

No boycott would work because the people who do actually shop at Wal-Mart almost have to because it's one of the few places they can afford. The food is quite a bit cheaper there than at the "local" grocery store. Go into any Wal-Mart in a semi-major city and see what I am talking about.

And no retailer that I can think of has reached the level of pure corporate evil that is Wal-Mart.

Driving back from the Def Leppard concert in El Paso last week we saw now less than tenty Wal-Mart trucks headed away from Mexico. We joked as to the contents of the trailers - cheap, high-margin product or cheap, easily exploitable labor :p
17 Jun 2005, 12:09 AM
Fe 26

I want to see Def Leppard
17 Jun 2005, 12:14 AM
frostwolf ex

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronPlant

I want to see Def Leppard

shut up, please ?
17 Jun 2005, 12:19 AM
arjue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhydant

Unions were setup to protect worker's rights.

And now there are local, state, and federal regulations for that kind of thing.

The only thing Unions are good for now is getting a raise. And thats a bad thing. A company has to pay it's workers more, thus driving up the price of their goods and services. Everyone else follows suit.

And what does that get us?

INFLATION!

Its been a while since I've studied it, but I'm pretty sure wages and inflation aren't that strongly linked. Inflation is more affected by broader things like interest rates and unemployment.

Unions here recently raised the minimum wage, I now earn $13.something, which will go up every 6 months until I'm 21. Australias economy is outstandingly managed, and I have no doubts that if this would harm the economy in an unmanageable way they wouldn't have allowed it.
17 Jun 2005, 12:41 AM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamevet

At least Home Depot pays decent wages and gives it's employees shares of stock in the company. I know a guy that bought his house, using the 38K in shares of Home Depot as collateral to back the loan.

So maybe instead of working at Wal-Mart these people should instead work at Home Depot?

Oh wait I forgot all these people are being held at gunpoint to keep working at Wal-Mart.
17 Jun 2005, 01:04 AM
frostwolf ex

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

So maybe instead of working at Wal-Mart these people should instead work at Home Depot?

Oh wait I forgot all these people are being held at gunpoint to keep working at Wal-Mart.

no, a number of employees will be able to work at home depot, the rest will work at either wal-mart or the competition, but wal mart gets rid of the competition, hence if they want a job and lack the specific education to get a non-reail job they can either a. work at walmart or b. go on welfare, is this hard to grasp?
17 Jun 2005, 01:13 AM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

no, a number of employees will be able to work at home depot, the rest will work at either wal-mart or the competition, but wal mart gets rid of the competition, hence if they want a job and lack the specific education to get a non-reail job they can either a. work at walmart or b. go on welfare, is this hard to grasp?

Yes, clearly the only two choices of employment available to people without higher education are Wal-Mart or welfare.
17 Jun 2005, 01:17 AM
frostwolf ex

provided the standard walmart business practice of drasticly undercutting other stores prices drives the competition out of buisness. then yeah, the choices become that stark. thats one reason people dont like them.
17 Jun 2005, 01:19 AM
jonas

Just go in there and pretend to work there. Then piss in all the cash registers and run out screaming 'FREEDOM'!
17 Jun 2005, 01:22 AM
Fe 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

shut up, please ?

Six saw Def Leppard. What is wrong with me wanting to see them to?
17 Jun 2005, 01:28 AM
johnk_

Nothing's wrong with that.. nothing at all..... shhhh..

*strokes IronPlant's head*
17 Jun 2005, 02:31 AM
James

Quote:

How about we just get rid of all the hand-wringing anti-Walmart Nazis like you? You don't contribute anything to the economy and are essentially worthless after all. You gonna provide me with a cheap substitute for my shopping needs when they're gone? No? Well, I thought not that's why I like my idea better.

Sorry to respond so late, I was out not contributing to the economy by working an unexpected 12-hour day in my retail job. It kind of takes the edge off replying in a timely manner.

Anyway, did this message make sense to anyone? I generally try to respond to stuff when it's directed at me, but I can't actually draw a coherent thought from this paragraph. I'm a Nazi, he likes cheap stuff, that's pretty clear, but there's still a mystery sentence seperating those thoughts and another one tacked onto the end. Anyone here speak "retard"?

James
17 Jun 2005, 02:41 AM
NightWolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Sorry to respond so late, I was out not contributing to the economy by working an unexpected 12-hour day in my retail job.

No need to apologize.

Quote:

Anyway, did this message make sense to anyone? I generally try to respond to stuff when it's directed at me, but I can't actually draw a coherent thought from this paragraph. I'm a Nazi, he likes cheap stuff, that's pretty clear, but there's still a mystery sentence seperating those thoughts and another one tacked onto the end. Anyone here speak "retard"?

Oh OK, but "I wish every WalMart in the country (and what the hell, the foreign ones too) would spontaneously combust. Where's those damn terrorists when you finally have a target you want blown up, anyway" is not in any way, shape, or form "retarded?" Just a little over the top humor there, no harm, no foul, right? Do you think Walmart, its employees or shoppers would find your douche bag commentary very amusing?? I guess you think you deserved a serious well thought out respectful reply after that which is amusing.
17 Jun 2005, 03:18 AM
James

Quote:

You know, I almost censored that last line but then decided not to be a pansy.

Here's the deal- before a certain date that's been used as the scapegoat for any number of things that I like to think we would never have considered prior to it, that joke would have been no harm/no foul.

Did you know tourists aren't allowed to take pictures of certain public monuments for fear of the photos being used to plan terrorist acts? Major bridges are a particular no-no, because (near as I can tell) we've been turned into a nation of cowardly little pansies afraid not so much of shadows as the potential for a shadow to exist.

The crack was over the top, I knew it when I wrote it and, as indicated in the original post, I almost backspaced over it. Then I decided screw it, I'm tired of catering to other people's oversensitivity. In this case it's not even their own personal oversensitivity, but the oversensitivity they project onto other people. If the remark offended you, say so. Don't try to protect the feelings of people who aren't here, and who I knew would never read the comment when I wrote it.

Technical note- You wanted to call me an anti-WalMart Anarchist, they're the ones who like to blow stuff up. An anti-WalMart Nazi would drag the employees out of the store in the dead of night and ship them off to the camps, then confiscate all WalMart property in the name of the Fatherland.

-edit- You know we've got threads making jokes about the theoretical death of any group you care to mention (often numbering in multi-millions) on these boards, right? Any particular reason WalMart set you off?

James
17 Jun 2005, 04:47 AM
Saint of Killers

Quote:

Originally Posted by voltz

When I worked for a fast food joint, the best thing I had working around call-ins was the use of an answering machine to handle who's calling. I dunno how that would handle with wal-mart, but if they got the gall to fire someone just for not picking up the phone, then they have overstepped their legal bounds.

They mean you have to be available to be scheduled to work any time between 7 am to 11 pm 7 days a week, so you better not have another job, have children or go to school.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhydant

Unions were setup to protect worker's rights.

And now there are local, state, and federal regulations for that kind of thing.

The only thing Unions are good for now is getting a raise. And thats a bad thing. A company has to pay it's workers more, thus driving up the price of their goods and services. Everyone else follows suit.

And what does that get us?

INFLATION!

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

The free market has ways of dealing with “problems” like this naturally without the use of them or stupid laws.

Yeah, cause the free market sure took care of the problems of insanely low wages, child labor, forced overtime without extra pay, forced 12+ hour shifts, etc.

Oh wait, that's right, it didn't. Unions and stupid laws did.

Did they stop teaching about the Industrial Revolution in high school or something?
17 Jun 2005, 05:19 AM
avatar

Bitch all you want about wal-mart it doesn't matter. They fall and someone will take their place and be just as corrupt.( or smart with money. depends on where you stand)

I notice only the poor bitch about wal-mart. People need to go out,get an education,get a real job,and stop working at wal-mart. There are plenty of illegals that would do that job better than you.

k,thx
17 Jun 2005, 05:48 AM
Revoltor

DER KUR DERRR!
17 Jun 2005, 11:32 AM
EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avatar

Bitch all you want about wal-mart it doesn't matter. They fall and someone will take their place and be just as corrupt.( or smart with money. depends on where you stand)

I notice only the poor bitch about wal-mart. People need to go out,get an education,get a real job,and stop working at wal-mart. There are plenty of illegals that would do that job better than you.

k,thx

Ouch...anyways, Do you think the government will do anything about it...I know that there are ways around it, but here in Canada, the gov would step in if any large business proposed that...(and try to do SOMETHING)
17 Jun 2005, 12:48 PM
Bacon McShig

Man, I went to Wal-mart for the first time in a while last night. Never again.

People say supporting Target and Wal-mart are essentially supporting the same thing, but I strongly disagree. I could walk around a Target store all day, it looks nice, it's laid out well, it buys into and has store-owned brands and items that have good design and workmanship, even their ads and signs have great design. Because of this, it attracts shoppers that appreciate good presentation over getting things marginally cheaper. Walmart on the other hand is a complete clusterfucking mess of "we don't give a shit about out looks", and a large portion of the clientele it attracts are fucking redneck sideshow rejects who would shop from pig troughs if it meant saving $0.20 on things. It almost makes me physically ill to browse one.
17 Jun 2005, 01:33 PM
stormy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

It almost makes me physically ill to browse one.

I get physically ill as soon as i walk into WalMart when that sickening corndog odor washes over me. I can't think of a worse smelling place that doesn't involve actual feces or piles of rotting garbage. And they ALL have that smell.
17 Jun 2005, 07:11 PM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

Yeah, cause the free market sure took care of the problems of insanely low wages, child labor, forced overtime without extra pay, forced 12+ hour shifts, etc.

Oh wait, that's right, it didn't. Unions and stupid laws did.

Did they stop teaching about the Industrial Revolution in high school or something?

The industrial revolution was a coincidence of uneducated (and unknowing) masses coinciding with a massive technological revolution that nobody really knew how to handle. When you have millions of immigrants here who are desperate (incomprehensibly desperate) for work and to make a living and most likely cant read or write a word of English it’s pretty easy to take advantage of them. The people let the companies walk all over them and needed unions and laws to be their quick fix bully for them. Unfortunately these things stuck around far longer than necessary. As I pointed out before, something like the industrial revolution obviously could never happen again.
17 Jun 2005, 07:20 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

The people let the companies walk all over them and needed unions and laws to be their quick fix bully for them. Unfortunately these things stuck around far longer than necessary.

What a remarkably ridiculous viewpoint of the situation. The companies were the bullies, and the unions were the only thing that protected them. Unions will ALWAYS be necessary as long as there are corporations who think they can exploit their workers, which there always will be.

Have there been corrupt unions? Yes. Have there been corrupt BUSINESSES? Yes, far more and to a greater degree. I mean, if you want to blithely dismiss all unions as being fronts for to mob, go ahead, but if you think organized crime doesn't have its hooks just as deep in the private sector you're delusional.

Quote:

Originally Posted by piku

As I pointed out before, something like the industrial revolution obviously could never happen again.

Based on what evidence? Your own opinion? LAWL.
17 Jun 2005, 07:51 PM
Fe 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

I hate poor people. They make me sick

awesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormy

I hate corndogs.

Even more awesome.
17 Jun 2005, 07:54 PM
piku

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

What a remarkably ridiculous viewpoint of the situation. The companies were the bullies, and the unions were the only thing that protected them. Unions will ALWAYS be necessary as long as there are corporations who think they can exploit their workers, which there always will be.

Show me one example of a corporation exploiting a worker, where that person is being forcibly exploited with no out. Ignore slavery.

Don't think you have fair working conditions? Don't work there. Don't think a company provides fair working conditions for its workers? Don't shop there. Employees forcing employers to change how they operate is equivalent to me being invited into your home and telling you how to run things.

Corporations like Wal-Mart pull this shit off because people let them. There is no incentive not to do this because nobody is one thousandth the activist they like to think they are. I don't think I have ever spoken to a single person who has said they think Wal-Mart is good (or even liked them) yet they continue to build new stores and expand daily. Why do you think this is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

Have there been corrupt unions? Yes. Have there been corrupt BUSINESSES? Yes, far more and to a greater degree. I mean, if you want to blithely dismiss all unions as being fronts for to mob, go ahead, but if you think organized crime doesn't have its hooks just as deep in the private sector you're delusional.

I never said they were a front for the mob, I said they were organized crime. It’s a slight exaggeration on my part anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

Based on what evidence? Your own opinion? LAWL.

I don't recall either of us ever offering any sort of factual evidence?
17 Jun 2005, 08:56 PM
Drewbacca

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormy

I get physically ill as soon as i walk into WalMart when that sickening corndog odor washes over me. I can't think of a worse smelling place that doesn't involve actual feces or piles of rotting garbage. And they ALL have that smell.

Canadian hicks aren't as bad as American southerner hicks so our Walmarts aren't quite that bad, but I agree wholeheartedly about Walmart catering to the lowest common denominator.

I will say this though: Hicks can be the kindest people in the world when you're in need of help or in a bad spot. Don't write them off as useless just because they're cheap.
17 Jun 2005, 09:02 PM
StriderKyo

Wait - so this is all taking place in a town called Nitro, and the jerk manager is named Mr. Knuckles? This is an awesome action movie waiting to happen.

As for this thread...why are there people arguing for three pages about this? Is this not an asinine thing to do? Would you not be furious if your workplace did this to you? Yes, and yes. Saying "LOL well it doesn't matter Walmart is not the only company they can just work somewhere else" doesn't get Walmart off the hook for being dickheads, it just ensures the same thing will happen elsewhere.

And for God's sake, Def Leppard is awful. Let's get let's get let's get let's get ROCKED! *shudder*
17 Jun 2005, 09:23 PM
Vasteel

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

And for God's sake, Def Leppard is awful. Let's get let's get let's get let's get ROCKED! *shudder*

What's got nine arms and sucks?
17 Jun 2005, 09:28 PM
Rhydant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Hrm... You know, I'm not sure I stated that correctly. What I meant was that the value of the US dollar will go down, killing our purchasing power.

Prices go up, and so do wages. So whats the point? Unions are affecting the value of the dollar in a negative way.
17 Jun 2005, 10:11 PM
Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasteel

What's got nine arms and sucks?

That is my joke, please stop telling it.
17 Jun 2005, 11:31 PM
Vasteel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master

That is my joke, please stop telling it.

Sorry lad, I've been using it for years!
18 Jun 2005, 12:56 AM
Rhydant

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vasteel

What's got nine arms and sucks?

Nine sucky pirates.
18 Jun 2005, 08:07 PM
NightWolve

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

The crack was over the top, I knew it when I wrote it and, as indicated in the original post, I almost backspaced over it. Then I decided screw it, I'm tired of catering to other people's oversensitivity. In this case it's not even their own personal oversensitivity, but the oversensitivity they project onto other people. If the remark offended you, say so. Don't try to protect the feelings of people who aren't here, and who I knew would never read the comment when I wrote it.

Clearly, my response indicated I took offense and the manner of how I respond will be of my choosing. As far as protecting feelings, I just wondered if you at all thought about that, but mostly, it was due to your counter response having the gall that it did. It came off as taking a moral high ground, and after saying what you said, it looked totally ridiculous from here, like, "How dare you!!" You deserved much more antagonism than I provided. Chaulk it up to my self-censoring of what I really think to avoid bannage. But you know, you're right. We do need less pansies in the world. How 'bout we start with the ones that are fixated on Walmart?

Quote:

Technical note- You wanted to call me an anti-WalMart Anarchist, they're the ones who like to blow stuff up. An anti-WalMart Nazi would drag the employees out of the store in the dead of night and ship them off to the camps, then confiscate all WalMart property in the name of the Fatherland.

Well, no, not really. I'm not comfortable with "anarchist" in this case, unless I've got the exact meaning wrong or going by the standard one. Of course, I was going for the pejorative usage of Nazi, not so much for the accuracy. If I joined the choir here and said Bush/GOP are Nazis, I doubt I'd have met much resistance to that as inaccurate. Anyhow, the Nazi label I attach to the fanatical, obsessive, anti-Walmart zealots and since you were advocating terrorism against them (albeit jokingly, but you know, the strong hatred that motivated you to say that is there), you fell under that net certainly. But even without the terrorism advocacy, that's what I use if I feel the circumstances warrant it. Like "anti-smoking" Nazis or FeminiNazi. That's all, no real need to split hairs over this.

My assumption is correct that you would empower the state to impose your/a brand of socialist morality upon Walmart (who, in your view, deem to be evil/amoral/immoral) so that it would behave more to your liking, no? See, that's why I wouldn't have gone with anarchist. Leaving Walmart alone, keeping your views on how it should or shouldn't behave to yourself and abolishing any government regulation is anarchism for the economic sphere. But I guess if in the word's definition you swap "state" with "Walmart," then it would work. Incidentally, I went with "commie-pinko terrorist" in the video that I made which was more in direct response to your terrorism advocacy. ^^ I guess terrorist alone would be safest as then I'm not trying to guess as to the ideology the terrorism is being perpetrated for. Anyway, enough of that.

Quote:

You know we've got threads making jokes about the theoretical death of any group you care to mention (often numbering in multi-millions) on these boards, right? Any particular reason WalMart set you off?

Hm, where to begin. I think this whole organized crusade launched against Walmart, with the non-stop smearing, is utterly insane and fanatic. Let's see, I dunno exactly when Walmart was put on their hit list, but for at least 2 years now I've in some way been bombarded with attacks against them. Attacks with such frequency that I've become quite aggravated with the whole thing. Now, going into this thread, I knew where TNL stands. Figured it'd be another 2 minutes of hate session and I'd be in the minority, but when I read your comments, I thought the insanity reached a new low. I've never seen hate of a company motivate that kind of comment before and I haven't kept tally of these other jokes you speak of.

Did someone from Walmart kill your dog, or run over your grandma perhaps? If I could understand what's going on inside the mind of the crusader, then I might not have been so quick to snap. But still, from where I'm sitting, Walmart's been getting enough bullshit rhetoric hurled at them (from radio, tv, newspapers, Marxist-tripe propoganda pamphlets from a powerful union which I had the displeasure of reading when it arrived in the mail, various other sources, etc.), and your comment went too far. If you wanna continue on that line, that's fine; it's useful in discrediting your overall cause. True enough, if I hadn't already been aggravated by the ~2 years of Walmart-hate lately and those responsible, I would've ignored you. I wanna spit and step on all of them. With this thread, I've seen it all. "Not only are they a bunch of rotten SOBs, but their stores smell rotten too. Fecal matter smeared everywhere. Yeah, man. To top it off there're rednecks that shop there that would sell their own mothers for a better deal. Yeargh!" I just gotta roll my eyes at all that. Can you blame me for flicking off nearly every comment in here like that and forming a negative broader opinion of the overall anti-Walmart crusade?

To be clear, it's not about loving Walmart so much than is it about hating/protesting the protestor for me. Kmart, Bestbuy, and Target are nearest to me and I go there mostly. I simply hope the freaks that have it in for Walmart fail and continue to fail. With every loss, every setback, I wanna relish in seeing them go more insane. Goddamn pansies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clash!

"Hey guys, howabout this! Now just here me out...we BLOW UP all of the WAL-MARTS!? Eh, pretty good right?"

Then cut to James strapped with explosives trying to hop onto a bus.

Heh. As soon as I read that, I immediately thought of a scene from Team America (Fuck yeah!) then tried to work some video editing magic. Borrowing James' likeness from here, I thought he'd be perfect for this role - James, Freedom Fighter.avi. Proving to his fellow F.A.G. comrades that he's not a pansy, he's prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice as he embarks on a daring 'martyrdom operation' to stop the war-mongering forces of Team America from starting World War III due to their meddling in N. Korean affairs. Cause freedom from U.S. capitalist imperialist pigs ain't free, you know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revoltor

Anyway, James would make the worst terrorist/freedom fighter ever.

Nah, I disagree. I think he'd make a great one. From that photo though, he's definitely got a serial killer vibe going.
18 Jun 2005, 08:33 PM
Brisco Bold

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

I will say this though: Hicks can be the kindest people in the world when you're in need of help or in a bad spot. Don't write them off as useless just because they're cheap.

This is true -- unless you're black. Then they just call you "boy" alot.
18 Jun 2005, 09:18 PM
Drewbacca

I've seen a black man get into a car accident. He couldn't get out of his car because it was on a slant. They stopped their cars, got out and helped him out of his vehicle. They then asked him if he was alright. There are a lot of racist hicks, but there are also decent hicks.

Damn hicks...

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page