Fable:The Lost Chapters

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Originally Posted by IGN

July 8, 2005 - Microsoft Game Studios announced that the enhanced version of Lionhead's bestselling action RPG entitled Fable: The Lost Chapters will be landing on the Xbox this fall. The title was already in development for the PC and is an estended version of the Xbox game that includes heaps of new content.

Remember all of the locked doors, dead ends, and rumored quests in the original release? Well, Fable: The Lost Chapters opens up many of those areas and is one third longer than the original game. It includes an entire new land featuring the elusive dragon long thought to be hidden in the original release. Gamers will also experience new spells, armor, weapons, enemies, and expressions.

The question likely to be on everyone's mind is how this content will be made available. Microsoft currently has plans to release the game as a Platinum Hits title for the suggested retail price of $19.99. This is a joyous announcement for those who have never set foot in Albion, but the purchase may be a tough call for people who already bought the first game for full price.

The Lost Chapters will be released this September for Xbox.

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This news makes me glad I ignored the original Fable.

I feel bad for you lot that paid full price for it.

This angers me, but I really enjoyed Fable a lot so I may actually pick this up like a sucker.

I don't think there is anything they can do with this "Lost Chapters" that could make it the game the first one should have been. There is simply no way they could have fixed everything.

I think Fable is probably the best description of a game that wasted its potential. There was SOO much to like about this game and they squandered every opportunity and made a game that should have been amazing simply decent.

Please elaborate on specific instances.

Peter Molyneaux is a brilliant person who is always thinking about games about 5 years before theyre possible.

Fable 2 will probably be great, but in the meantime, we have Lost Chapters.

Ill get this. I didnt spend time with Fable because of all the hatorade. Even though a lot of people thought it was fun.

The hatorade from me was mostly because of all that blocked off shit. Oh well.

I'll snatch it up.

The game was fun, there is no doubt about that. It just seems like they came up short in all the little shit. The fishing is a perfect example. They could have made that enjoyable instead of just button mashing. Very linear paths through the whole game takes the adventure out of it. There was never a sense of what might be beyond the next area because you knew you would get there just by following the only path available to you.

These are just a couple of endless examples of the problems with the game. It is still worth a 1 time play through though. I guess it just bums me out because it could have been so great. Oh well, I'll keep my eye on Fable 2 and see how that turns out.

At $20, I'll definitely pick it up. Maybe I'll spend more time with Fable over the coming weeks to prepare myself for this.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

This news makes me glad I ignored the original Fable.

I feel bad for you lot that paid full price for it.

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same here I will deffinetly get this at 20 bucks

Is it still xbox exclusive or are they making a PC version too?

PC version is still coming.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

PC version is still coming.

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Which is the version I'll get though I doubt it'll cost 20 bucks..at least not right away anyways. I liked the xbox version from the little I played of it.. the pc version will certainly look better and I'm sure the mouse/keyboard control will be just fine.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Ill get this. I didnt spend time with Fable because of all the hatorade. Even though a lot of people thought it was fun.

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now why on earth would you listen to others opinions? and never use that word again.

lol.

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Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

now why on earth would you listen to others opinions? and never use that word again.

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Not everyone has the time or desire to play every single game. Listening to what other people say is important in many facets of life.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

This news makes me glad I ignored the original Fable.

I feel bad for you lot that paid full price for it.

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dont, im playing it today actually for my second go through(beat it as a primarily wizard, now doing the burly warior type) and i have enjoyed it since last september. people thought it would be morrowind 2, it wasnt, but it had a lot to offer,and i wouldnt have traded it for any other game. and as for the lost chapters, i wonder how it will play on pc, fable had the near perfect setup for the x-box contoller, so we shall see how it works on the pc keyboard. for me its frothing demand and all that stuff.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Ill get this. I didnt spend time with Fable because of all the hatorade. Even though a lot of people thought it was fun.

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this is why you need to occasionally listen to me :p

For 20 bucks? Yeah I'll get it. Fuck it.

Once the Live aspect was cut, so was my interest in this game... I saw my friends play, and it seemed "ok" but nothing special. Seems like this will help, but it's still not what the game should have been. If they go the platinum hits, that's a good idea, kind of like VF4: Evolution. Shame they couldn't just make it a Live download for those who already bought it.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

This news makes me glad I ignored the original Fable.

I feel bad for you lot that paid full price for it.

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Why? I played it a year ago and enjoyed it a lot. Like I give a shit about waiting 1 1/2 years for an update. Thats stupid.

This is good news, I will definately rent this.

Time to sell my original Fable and either use the money to pay for this or put it toward Killer 7.

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Originally Posted by Glass Joe

The game was fun, there is no doubt about that. It just seems like they came up short in all the little shit. The fishing is a perfect example. They could have made that enjoyable instead of just button mashing. Very linear paths through the whole game takes the adventure out of it. There was never a sense of what might be beyond the next area because you knew you would get there just by following the only path available to you.

These are just a couple of endless examples of the problems with the game. It is still worth a 1 time play through though. I guess it just bums me out because it could have been so great. Oh well, I'll keep my eye on Fable 2 and see how that turns out.

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^^^ = another example of someone who buys into the hype, then when they are dissapointed; get all pissy about it. you guys seriously need to detach the hype from these fucking games so you can enjoy them for what they are, and not for what magazines boost them up to be(or in this case, the creator himself)

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

^^^ = another example of someone who buys into the hype, then when they are dissapointed; get all pissy about it. you guys seriously need to detach the hype from these fucking games so you can enjoy them for what they are, and not for what magazines boost them up to be(or in this case, the creator himself)

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Well , when you buy anything you are going to have expectations. When I go to a steakhouse to buy dinner I expect a good steak dinner, when I go to the store and buy a light bulb I expect it to work,when I go to buy a game which is marketed to be the best, most realistic, unlinear RPG out there, Im going to expect that too.If Peter Molyneux would have said in interviews that he planned on doing an action/RPG-ish game on rails - then he should have just said that so people would know what to expect.I liked it for what it was worth, only because I knew all of the hype was bullshit,and it wasnt going to be this perfect RPG as it was proclaimed to be....

I actually played Fable for the first time this weekend and was dissapointed, perhaps its just after playing WOW that I dont know if I can go back to a console RPG much less this game.

The graphics are ugly which all consoles games are for the most part when you are used to playing on a high end pc, the game as mentioned is on rails which again after wow is horrible.

I did like the art style and the voice acting but not something I will play though to the end.

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Originally Posted by Jetman

blah blah blah counterproductive rant blah blah blah

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Originally Posted by EvilMog007

Why? I played it a year ago and enjoyed it a lot. Like I give a shit about waiting 1 1/2 years for an update. Thats stupid.

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I wasn't waiting for an update, I wasn't going buy it at all, but then this pops up.

$20 price tag + Extra content - Idiotic hype = Me interested.

Avoid. Unless your xbox is hd modded, in which case the load times are (barely) tolerable.

Otherwise, you load between every memory-size-limited postage stamp sized area, and the load times suck.

It's also really easy and the story is mediocre.

...and the final boss battle is shit.

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Originally Posted by Melf

...and the final boss battle is shit.

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for the regular game, this gmae finally has a dragon, always wondered why they mentioned him in themonster book and never showed one, particularly after i killed the kraken

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Originally Posted by Melf

...and the final boss battle is shit.

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especially if you have slow-time and fireball lvl 4. nigga drops in under 30 seconds

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Originally Posted by Victrix

Avoid. Unless your xbox is hd modded, in which case the load times are (barely) tolerable.

Otherwise, you load between every memory-size-limited postage stamp sized area, and the load times suck.

It's also really easy and the story is mediocre.

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well we cant all have catgirl pastel rpg no load 2000, so some of us stick with this.

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

well we cant all have catgirl pastel rpg no load 2000, so some of us stick with this.

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I do not know why, but this comment nearly made me spew the soda I was drinking onto my monitor.

...I want Catgirl Pastel RPG No Load 2000. :(

All I know about Fable is this: if I had worked on the game I would be pissed at the way it ended up. The game just feels like a giant misappropiation of developer resources.

-Dippy

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

^^^ = another example of someone who buys into the hype, then when they are dissapointed; get all pissy about it. you guys seriously need to detach the hype from these fucking games so you can enjoy them for what they are, and not for what magazines boost them up to be(or in this case, the creator himself)

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If the creator/company says a game is one thing, and it turns out to be another, it's fine to be disappointing. If someone made a game and they called it "the best fighter ever" and it was a turn based strategy game (I know, it's exagerated an example but bear with me), that means that they hyped it incorrectly. This can lead to disappointment and there's nothing wrong with it. Now, if it was people on the internet and magazines saying one thing, and the company saying another, then that's fine, you should have listened to the company/creator. In short, listen to the creator/makers, if they lie, be pissed.

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^^^ = another example of someone who buys into the hype, then when they are dissapointed; get all pissy about it. you guys seriously need to detach the hype from these fucking games so you can enjoy them for what they are, and not for what magazines boost them up to be(or in this case, the creator himself)

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The developers and magazines were talking about the game being Morrowind + KOTOR + Zelda, what we got was a dumbed-down Zelda with a bad (worse) story. The game media was hyping the game up as the be-all end-all up to a week before it came out (remember that ridiculous 8 part or whatever preview on IGN). I dont think anyone can seriously detach themselves from all that hype and end up being happy with it. The game media let us down with this one, the last time I remember them getting something so wrong was Trespasser (though Fable is much better than Trespasser).

Im all for going in with reasonable expectations but there's a limit.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

The game media let us down with this one, the last time I remember them getting something so wrong was Trespasser (though Fable is much better than Trespasser).

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What's Trespasser?

Anyway, I'm sick of previews for games, because they all sound really positive and like the game is the greatest thing ever made, then the same place will have a review that complains about every little thing.... where was all the cool stuff you talked about loving in the preview?

$20 is perfect.

Makes me glad I trade my copy original copy of Fable for a sealed cube version of RE2 a few months back.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

The game media let us down with this one, the last time I remember them getting something so wrong was Trespasser (though Fable is much better than Trespasser).

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Not for these folks.

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Originally Posted by TobalRox

What's Trespasser?

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www.google.com to learn the full story, one of the most overhyped duds ever released.

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Anyway, I'm sick of previews for games, because they all sound really positive and like the game is the greatest thing ever made, then the same place will have a review that complains about every little thing.... where was all the cool stuff you talked about loving in the preview?

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Definitely true, previews nowadays are just press releases not written by the company. The interviews are a joke too.

Here is a bit shit-load of text on Tresspasser, obtained via a Google search for "Tresspasser game" -
http://www.oldmanmurray.com/longreviews/726.html

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

^^^ = another example of someone who buys into the hype, then when they are dissapointed; get all pissy about it. you guys seriously need to detach the hype from these fucking games so you can enjoy them for what they are, and not for what magazines boost them up to be(or in this case, the creator himself)

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I didn't follow any hype about this game at all, NONE! I did however have the idea that this would be a really good action RPG/adventure game and it wasn't. It wasn't horrible but it sure as fuck wasn't really good either.

I wasn't pissy about the game at all. I just saw all the potential(while playing it) that this game had but it squandered it all.

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Originally Posted by Glass Joe

These are just a couple of endless examples of the problems with the game.

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Originally Posted by Glass Joe

These are just a couple of the endless examples of the problems with the game.

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Ohhh.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

The developers and magazines were talking about the game being Morrowind + KOTOR + Zelda, what we got was a dumbed-down Zelda with a bad (worse) story. The game media was hyping the game up as the be-all end-all up to a week before it came out (remember that ridiculous 8 part or whatever preview on IGN). I dont think anyone can seriously detach themselves from all that hype and end up being happy with it. The game media let us down with this one, the last time I remember them getting something so wrong was Trespasser (though Fable is much better than Trespasser).

Im all for going in with reasonable expectations but there's a limit.

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i went in like this: it's an xbox game. that was it. i honestly dont see how the rest of you cant, espcially when a game gets this much hype.

and secondly, those of you that felt dissapointed should be used to it by now(because if you beleived the hype for this, you MUST have boughten into hype for other games as well)...let alone there have been far worse games than fable to come out of the vidoegame industry.

i guess i'm just sick of the people that bash this based on the fact that it wasnt what molyneux(sp?) promised...as if every other developer out there brings every single thing they said about their title to it's retail outing.

so; to wrap this up...fuck it, i'll pick it up. gives me more to do within that world(more houses to "renovate" of people, and more money to make). if you dont want it,that's fine. but dont act as if you're some naive schoolgirl that put all of your trust into this(molyneux), only to be raped later in an alley without the promise of candy(missing game content); it makes the rest of us(gamers) look like complete hypocritical asses.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

The developers and magazines were talking about the game being Morrowind + KOTOR + Zelda, what we got was a dumbed-down Zelda with a bad (worse) story. The game media was hyping the game up as the be-all end-all up to a week before it came out (remember that ridiculous 8 part or whatever preview on IGN). I dont think anyone can seriously detach themselves from all that hype and end up being happy with it. The game media let us down with this one, the last time I remember them getting something so wrong was Trespasser (though Fable is much better than Trespasser).

Im all for going in with reasonable expectations but there's a limit.

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actually its when i see this level of hype is exaclty when i detatch from the hype, i have been around gaming long enough to know when they start avalanching a game, avoid forming any preconceptions because this kind of blitz is pure marketing. its like the ps3's massive technical superiorty over the 360. do you buy it? They are selling it hard. it wont be true,and if you are expecting it, you will be dissapointed. if you have been gaming this long, you should be able to smell a rat by now. I went in expecting a western rpg, and thats what i got.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

actually its when i see this level of hype is exaclty when i detatch from the hype, i have been around gaming long enough to know when they start avalanching a game, avoid forming any preconceptions because this kind of blitz is pure marketing. its like the ps3's massive technical superiorty over the 360. do you buy it? They are selling it hard. it wont be true,and if you are expecting it, you will be dissapointed. if you have been gaming this long, you should be able to smell a rat by now. I went in expecting a western rpg, and thats what i got.

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With the PS3 stuff at least you got sites saying that this stuff is BS, you got sites like GameSpot debunking the "Killzone 2 is realtime" crap, "PS3 is a zillion times better than 360" crap, etc. With Fable and too many games the websites and mags are right on board with the publishers. I can understand publishers hyping shit, thats their job, but we shouldnt be getting the same hype from the sites.

And yea, hyping it 6 months before it comes out is one thing (stupid, because they always gloss over the negative stuff but whatever) but the game was getting best.game.ever. hype a week before it came out.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

With the PS3 stuff at least you got sites saying that this stuff is BS, you got sites like GameSpot debunking the "Killzone 2 is realtime" crap, "PS3 is a zillion times better than 360" crap, etc. With Fable and too many games the websites and mags are right on board with the publishers. I can understand publishers hyping shit, thats their job, but we shouldnt be getting the same hype from the sites.

And yea, hyping it 6 months before it comes out is one thing (stupid, because they always gloss over the negative stuff but whatever) but the game was getting best.game.ever. hype a week before it came out.

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maybe, you have been gaming as long as i have, nearly, you have to eb wary of the gaming media by now, they do this a lot. besides, we knew stuff was getting cut here well before the game was released, check the official thread, i think a lot of people ignored when the news got out that stuff was cut. the anger is out there, if you think we had "hatorade" here, check the elderscrolls forums, fable is flamebait over there. like i said, i have been burned so many times, the hype washed over me.

btw, here comes a rant from jetman.

Glad I waited. I'll definitely pick up this version for $20.

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

i went in like this: it's an xbox game. that was it.

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Bullshit. So youre telling me you went and bought Fable without knowing anything about it?

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Originally Posted by MWF

and secondly, those of you that felt dissapointed should be used to it by now(because if you beleived the hype for this, you MUST have boughten into hype for other games as well)...let alone there have been far worse games than fable to come out of the vidoegame industry.

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Yeah, but there have been a lot better games that did live up to hype built up for them.Resident Evil 4 and World of Warcraft come to mind currently.Hype can be a great thing for a game if its not spun to lie and mislead the community. Hype + great game = people excited about the game and telling their friends = better sales.

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Originally Posted by MWF

i guess i'm just sick of the people that bash this based on the fact that it wasnt what molyneux(sp?) promised...as if every other developer out there brings every single thing they said about their title to it's retail outing.

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And that's one of the best reasons TO bash it. Noone likes to be promised they are getting one thing then find out its another.Some of us actually, like to now something about what we are buying. Personally, I need a little more reason to buy something than" Oh,look, an X-box game,"

I played Fable and had fun with it, and ill probably pick up this expansion - but I do think people have a right to be pissed about what went down with it and its promotional speel....

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

btw, here comes a rant from jetman.

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good call

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Originally Posted by Jetman

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i'll get to you later after adult swim(yes, i'm doing you a favor by even replying to this rhetoric you call an opinion). keep an eye out in 2 hours as it'll be my last post in this thread(it's gotten ridiculous)

actually i take that back as posting any more in this thread regarding to my own expecations when it comes to a new title is ludicris as apparently you people cant believe that someone(ex: myself) can go into a game from an objective standpoint.

Heres my take on Fable.

I love it and it's a great game.

Is it anything like Molyneux said it would be? Of course not. That still doesn't stop it from being great just how it is. Do I wish it was more like his original vision? Of course, but that still doesn't stop me from enjoying it as the great action-rpg that it is.

The combat is fun, the story is at least interesting and the custom user's experience in the game is hilarity waiting to happen. I'll be picking up Lost Chapters for XBOX because I'm a whore.

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

i'll get to you later after adult swim(yes, i'm doing you a favor by even replying to this rhetoric you call an opinion). keep an eye out in 2 hours as it'll be my last post in this thread(it's gotten ridiculous)

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lol ,thats funny that you think I really care. Honestly, dude, I dont give a shit - mostly because of this line:

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Originally Posted by MWF

this rhetoric you call an opinion

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tough to have a conversation with someone who always thinks they are right.

Anyways, I like Fable, you love Fable, a new Fable is coming out this fall - carry on - no need to keep derailing this thread.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

www.google.com to learn the full story, one of the most overhyped duds ever released.



Definitely true, previews nowadays are just press releases not written by the company. The interviews are a joke too.

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Sorry, I figured it was too vague to do a search for.

I got bored of this game and quit halfway through.

Fable is a good game. If you see a game being hyped at that level, you should know better.

Here's another game that got uberhyped:

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

I got bored of this game and quit halfway through.

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Welcome to most games that come out these days for me.

I enjoyed watching other people play Fable. These are people that don't live on the internet, hype didn't factor in.

They, and I, enjoyed it. I'm sure I'll download this "new" version too.

You know what this guy says...
http://www.iriveramerica.com/news/mm...avor_Flav2.jpg

TNL: Xbox revisionist's R ' US

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I enjoyed watching other people play Fable. These are people that don't live on the internet, hype didn't factor in.

They, and I, enjoyed it. I'm sure I'll download this "new" version too.

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I had a group of friends that all lived together and played Fable.... they did not get hyped from the internet, and they ALL thought it wasn't very good. They got sick of it really fast and complained about a lot of differest aspects of it. The game itself made them do it, not the internet or magazines.

Fable is like a single player World of Warcraft that's only 1/10th as good as World of Warcraft.

Stealing shit ruled though.

The graphics were boring and generic, the combat was worthless and just not fun... it felt like a really tired out Zelda game with less variety, a smaller world, worse characters, and a crappy story.

I don't care if it wasn't what they said it would be, what it is just isn't very good.

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Fable is like a single player World of Warcraft that's only 1/10th as good as World of Warcraft.

Stealing shit ruled though.

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1/10th?


You are a pretty genrous guy.

I went to go play my copy the other day after a long long time of not playing it and the bitch wont play on my new Xbox. WTF!? Theres no scratches or anything on it. I shouldnt say it doesnt play because it does but the screen is all fucked up and distorted. Maybe its the new HDTV and I cant change the games options or something....I dunno. Damnit I really wanted to get into my game again too. :(

Did you change your Dashboard to support HD, and did you get the Hi-Def AV pack?

So far:

Beautiful game, they redid a lot of the textures so that everything looks great in high-res, it's even damn nice with a bunch of options turned down. New quests are available all over the place, mostly small stuff so far that adds nice details. A whole string of objectives was about people getting high off mushrooms, providing my favorite line so far that was basically, "She was amazingly beautiful, but the trees were also running around on little chocolate legs, you know?" All sorts of new expressions have been added, like the Russian kick dance and the flamenco.

For the most part it's still the same game it was on Xbox, so if you hated it there you won't change your mind here. It even still has the glitch of listing the initial three quests that you can't accept which then disappear by the time you're done killing the wasp queen. No idea if they pop back up later on and can actually be completed in this version, but if not that's a really pathetic oversight.

The combat is sort of screwed up as the mouse really doesn't work so hot with rolling and lock-on is just better off not used unless you're fighting bosses. Not a huge deal once I got used to it but it feels clumsier then it did with a gamepad. Which, you know, wouldn't be a problem except that THE GAME DOESN'T SUPPORT GAMEPADS! How in god's fucking name does a title initially released on consoles ship on PC with zero gamepad support?! Stupid stupid stupid. I can't believe they went to the trouble of removing that for no reason that I can think of.

So, uh, yeah. As someone that liked it on Xbox I'm enjoying myself with the PC version, but I really have to wonder what they've been doing with their time considering what still needs to be worked on.

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:cry: That's just about the lamest shit ever.

ill be waiting for the x-box version of this one. man, that sounds weird for me to say.

Yeah, the game simply screams console port. It's really quite annoying that they left the interface so clunky.

But I'm having a lot of fun with it. I did hear thought that there's actually not very much new content, which is kinda disappointing. I guess we'll see. I'm really enjoying the game on my first time through.

Just beat it. The endgame stuff is way better this time around, most of the new material is an added chunk of story quests that finishes off the game with a much better leadup and finale. The final boss is still pretty easy and I imagine it'll be even more so when a controller can be used so that dodging becomes effective again. They give a whole bunch of background lore regarding the world, a lot of new tattoos (including a couple full body sets that look a hundred times better then any of the ones offered before), a new set of armor, some awesome looking helms, new weapons (though none of them are particularly useful), and a cool little bonus for the evil ending. They really added a ton of great touches for the evil playthrough of TLC and made life a pain in the ass for the good guys.

On the bad side they totally nerfed the Sword of Aeons (and it now also has a good counterpart for those of you that prefer the light) and it drops from being the best weapon in the game - which makes sense seeing as how it's the sword of legend and all - to being about fourth or so best. Now the best weapon in the game is the Soul Reav- I mean, Solus Longsword, which can be purchased in a shop. What sense does that make?

I had a screenshot of the awesome Pimp Hat you can now get but Fable does its own special thing with the print screen key and I have no idea where it saves screenshots (if they're even accessible out of game). Oh well, whatever.

thats good to hear, the x-box port hit on october right? i will definitly get it with a controller.