Need help selecting portable mp3 player

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

For 10 dollars a month, you can get all the MP3s you want. That was my point. AFAIK, you can't use the iPod for services like these, but instead only iTunes, which does not have that same kind of payment option.

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What?

I don't think you understand what I meant. I meant that you can't use subscription services that aren't iTunes (such as Yahoo music, etc) for iPod. I didn't mean that it's the only way you can transfer songs, etc.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

...you can't use subscription services that aren't iTunes (such as Yahoo music, etc) for iPod.

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Explain why.

Because the hardware is not identical? Because Apple doesn't want you to use your iPod with another service?

Fuck dude. Download the mp3s with your pay service and then use one of the many programs available to put those mp3s on the ipod.

Update:This makes things very easy.

The service is "rental" based....ie, you pay 10 dollars a month to "borrow" the MP3, but you can borrow as many as you want and keep them as long as you pay for the service. It's sort of like DivX (the old divx). Every month, you sync your MP3 player with the PC again to renew your usage.

edit: Forget it. No offense, but this isn't going anywhere

Wow, how do you guys not understand how subscription-based music services work?

Yahoo Music:
$5 a month
Unlimited songs that all expire and have to have the liscenses renewed (even on devices) and they aren't MP3.
MP3 downloads (real, permanent MP3s) for 79 cents each.
Have to use a subscription-compatible device, like the Creative Zen Micro (on par with ipod, easily).

iTunes sucks, iPods would rule if they had a compatible subscription service.
Music piracy is like Linux, its only cheaper is your time is worthless.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

The service is "rental" based....ie, you pay 10 dollars a month to "borrow" the MP3, but you can borrow as many as you want and keep them as long as you pay for the service. It's sort of like DivX (the old divx). Every month, you sync your MP3 player with the PC again to renew your usage.

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This is a terrible service. I can not comprehend why you would pay for this.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

edit: Forget it. No offense, but this isn't going anywhere

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I learned something today. People actually pay for the terrible services I see in advertisments with bright colors and flashing lights. Without you I would have not learned this. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Master

Music piracy is like Linux, its only cheaper is your time is worthless.

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It's really not that time consuming unless you're looking for something obscure, or not looking in the right place. I've only gone to iTunes once, for an album I was in too much of a rush to find by hand.

I agree with Grave on the Shuffle. I bought one at release and have done my worst to it: throwing it in a bag with a bunch of other stuff, keeping it in my pocket all the time, using it in the gym, etc. It still works perfectly, and I think it's closer to what the iPod should be...a music player you can have on you at all times.

I do still use my 15G iPod, but mostly for long trips and times where I know I'm going to be spending a long time away from home (library, etc).