I pay for all my music and love my iPods. A thread like this is for getting names out there. There's about a billion places you can go to find better reviews than any person on TNL's going to give anyway.
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I pay for all my music and love my iPods. A thread like this is for getting names out there. There's about a billion places you can go to find better reviews than any person on TNL's going to give anyway.
I pay for all of the music I obtain, outside of a small folder of singles and music friends send me, and some videogame OSTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
I didn't say everything I said was factual. I said I was offering my opinion, and factual information.Quote:
How is ANYTHING of this factual?
This is factual information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
So it took you several posts to finally say something factual? wow
If you disagree with someone fine, but don't do that "Oh, you're not an audiophile like me, I understand why this is good for you" patronizing garbage that suits Neo Geo collecting nerds. Unless you are one of them, of course, which means you ahve bigger problems.
Are we in a race, or something?
I've had an iPod Photo for a few months now and I really do have zero complaints. I at first was reluctant to use iTunes but it's really not bad at all--I still don't use it as my main player on my computer, but iTunes is great for organizing music (and especially awesome for changing ID3 tags en masse).
I haven't used other players extensively, though, so I can't comment decisively on how they compare to iPod. But from what I have seen, iPod has by far the best interface (and that's pretty key, especially when driving).
I'll race you. I drive my grandmothers Cadillac these days. Think you can handle that shit son? My whip is mad fierce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
How is the audio quality of a CD better than that of Yahoo Music, Napster or iTunes? I'm actually asking. Somebody please explain.
Also, Yahoo Music rules. They suggest music every day that I will like. I download it instantly. I then take it to the gym to work out. My music shopping takes 10 seconds a day and that is with rating the songs I listened to the day before. I don't know every band that ever existed, or who sings what song I like, so a service that lets me download whatever to see if it is what I like, and having internet radio stations that let me download all the songs I listen to, completely rules. I also like having people that influence me, and being able to influence others. If you haven't tried it yet, you should.
PS: How much of that stuff is in Napster, Rhapsody, iTunes etc.? Thanks for answers in advance.
Yahoo uses 128kbps Windows Media files. Windows Media is a compression algorithm. The algorithm is what turns that 60 meg WAV file (and WAV is what comes off the CD, with nothing taken out) into a 5 meg file you load onto your PDA.Quote:
How is the audio quality of a CD better than that of Yahoo Music, Napster or iTunes? I'm actually asking. Somebody please explain.
You're only 11 but even at your age you should be able to know that you cant turn a 60 meg file into a 5 meg one without some loss of information. This is where the algorithm comes in. It picks and chooses what to keep and what to throw away.
Windows Media is also lossy, which means that this compression throws information away, permanently. If you download a WMA file off Yahoo and decide to burn it onto a CD, the software will turn that WMA file back into a 60 meg WAV file - but information will be missing. If you turn around and then rip that into an mp3, then the mp3 algorithm will cut out different information.
Of course, this probably means nothing to you because youre not the type of hardcore music fan that cares. But for me, this is why I would rather buy used CDs - theyre only $5 or $6 anyway, they come with liner notes and whatever, and they are in a non-lossy format.
NOW, the reason why all those players are compatible with all those music stores but iTunes is out of the loop is because ALL those stores use Microsoft's DRM-encrusted WMA format, while Apple chose not to work with Microsoft, obviously.
When I used Napster it didnt have that type of stuff in depth. iTunes has some pretty in-depth stuff and a much better library than all those other stuff.Quote:
PS: How much of that stuff is in Napster, Rhapsody, iTunes etc.? Thanks for answers in advance.
If you can hear the difference you are a better man than I. Trust me, it is negligable to most. You have effectively ruined the trap I set for Andy.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
You can't burn the subscription WMAs onto a CD. You can burn the MP3s you pay for and download to a CD, so this is a moot point. They are of the same quality of iTunes, almost identical to those found on a CD. As good as 128 can sound anyway.Quote:
Windows Media is also lossy, which means that this compression throws information away, permanently. If you download a WMA file off Yahoo and decide to burn it onto a CD, the software will turn that WMA file back into a 60 meg WAV file - but information will be missing. If you turn around and then rip that into an mp3, then the mp3 algorithm will cut out different information.
Also, it isn't the compression in size that matters as much as the bit-rate change. I don't know a single person that can tell the difference between 192 bitrate MP3 and CD even on the best system, and neither do you. Though I agree, on a really good system, 128 bit-rate versus CD is noticable, but still very minor.
Agreed, but most people who have an iPod (that I speak to anyway) burn all their CDs to MP3 for playing on their iPod anyway. It is hard to tell the difference on the treadmill... or at all for that matter.Quote:
Of course, this probably means nothing to you because youre not the type of hardcore music fan that cares. But for me, this is why I would rather buy used CDs - theyre only $5 or $6 anyway, they come with liner notes and whatever, and they are in a non-lossy format.
Of course I know that. Apple also wants to own the whole thing too.Quote:
NOW, the reason why all those players are compatible with all those music stores but iTunes is out of the loop is because ALL those stores use Microsoft's DRM-encrusted WMA format, while Apple chose not to work with Microsoft, obviously.
Do you have some examples? Yahoo music seems to have a lot of songs listed as "iTunes version" that I don't see on Napster. Maybe I'm missing something, but a lot of stuff is there. Yahoo MP3s also cost 79 cents a peice, and they cost 99 cents everywhere else.Quote:
When I used Napster it didnt have that type of stuff in depth. iTunes has some pretty in-depth stuff and a much better library than all those other stuff.
I don't want to turn this whole thing into a religeous war, as I understand the MP3 vs CD thing, but if iPod supported Yahoo Music, why would anybody use iTunes? That is the only detractor (other than software with some bugs still in it) to Yahoo Music. You need a subscription compatible device.
And theyre on their way, I think they own like 90% of the market.Quote:
Apple also wants to own the whole thing too.
No. I used Napster around the New Year and I remember not seeing quite a few bands I wanted to hear. They were also quite lazy about adding new stuff, I remember the same list of "Newest 1000" rock songs was there the entire two months I used it. I do remember a very sketchy list of metal bands.Quote:
Do you have some examples?
I know that.Quote:
Trust me, it is negligable to most.
Well you can set the quality. Cant with the Yahoo store - its all 128kbps (I think). Probably the equivalent to 160kbps mp3. There's also an Apple lossless codec, which throws away nothing and is like a WAV file.Quote:
Agreed, but most people who have an iPod (that I speak to anyway) burn all their CDs to MP3 for playing on their iPod anyway. It is hard to tell the difference on the treadmill... or at all for that matter.
But whatever. Like I said, different strokes for different folks. I can see why the "pay a monthly charge" model is attractive, but I wasnt crazy about it when I tried it. I much prefer to own my music.