Capcom: Street Fighter 4 is in the works.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Uhh, since when is "market-driven, get-it-out-the-door game development" only synonymous with the US market? In fact, Id say Japanese are a lot worse with that shit nowadays. Especially since I can point to several American titles released in the past few years that have been polished to near perfection (HL2 and War3 to name two).

Look, Japanese people suck at FPSes. They cant make them. Look at the evidence, Maken X and shit. Or at least that is what we said, until Breakdown came out. Yea, it wasnt perfect, but it was a fine FPS all the same, and far far better than we all thought Japanese had a right to make in that genre.

If the Capcom USA people really were making an SF4, theyre not stupid. They are probably smarter than you. They know how much the Street Fighter franchise means in the grand scheme of things and they know that #4 means a lot of things. They rose up to the challenge with Maximo. Theyll get the right people and Im sure itll end up fine.

Quite frankly, I think the biggest problem is dumbass know-it-alls on the internet saying "AMERICANS CANT MAKING FIGHTERS OMG!!! *explode*".

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They would need to do what japanese developers do with man of thier high quality fighting games, mainly, have locational, and beta tests IN japan, and also have a team of japanese top gamers play testing thier games throughout its development offering suggestions. Now, mortal kombat 2 had some extremely good american players (namely shirts) playtesting it, but that game is not even close to the level of balance japanese fighters have.

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They would need to do what japanese developers do with man of thier high quality fighting games, mainly, have locational, and beta tests IN japan, and also have a team of japanese top gamers play testing thier games throughout its development offering suggestions.

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Yes, thats the same thing Blizzard and Ensemble do to make sure their RTS games are balanced. Get high level people to play it and test the living shit out of it. Westwood may have done it with C&C back in the day, but I doubt they do it much since EA bought them. A very smart person once observed that balancing it for high level play ensures the game is great for all audiences.

PBMax is talking like these sort of things are unheard of here. Considering the shoddy quality fighting games (not named Guilty Gear) that have come from Japan the past few years, Id rather some new hands work on SF4.

The problem is, american's don't have true high level players of fighting games. Not compared to the diversity of high level players japan has. It's not unfeasabile that SF USA would go to japan for its testing, but it doesn't seem as likely.

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Originally Posted by Revoltor

The insane amounts of fun my friends and I (and probably every other fellow American) had playing them must've been some kind of joint hallucination.

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Fun does not equal great. There have been many games that I've been able to have fun with, but weren't quality games. Every MK game released has been abysmal when it comes to actual gameplay and technique.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Quite frankly, I think the biggest problem is dumbass know-it-alls on the internet saying "AMERICANS CANT MAKING FIGHTERS OMG!!! *explode*".

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I never said Americans can't, I said in the history of videogames they never have. There is a difference -- if you could comprehend it.

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The problem is, american's don't have true high level players of fighting games.

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Which is why we had an American player in the 3rd Strike finals of Evolution last year. I expect this year to be no different.

stfu, for reals. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about as the gap between US and Japanese players, in all fighting games with the exception of crap like VF4 has become very, very small.

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Originally Posted by PBMax

I never said Americans can't, I said in the history of videogames they never have. There is a difference -- if you could comprehend it.

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That said I have zero expectation any US developer can put together a top-tier fighting game,


Putting that aside, I wouldn't mind seeing a US developer take a shot at this. it's not like capcom of japan's been doing jack shit worth mentioning lately. the last good fighter they made was third strike and even that was another in a long line of rehash/updates. I wouldn't care if SF4 didn't "feel" like street fighter. honestly, the idea that all SF games gotta look and play a certain way is why the series is where it is now.

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They would need to do what japanese developers do with man of thier high quality fighting games, mainly, have locational, and beta tests IN japan, and also have a team of japanese top gamers play testing thier games throughout its development offering suggestions. Now, mortal kombat 2 had some extremely good american players (namely shirts) playtesting it, but that game is not even close to the level of balance japanese fighters have.

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you make it sound like all these games are hitting the market perfectly balanced or something. it's not like having japanese players beta test a fighter automatically made them balanced. years of updating and re-releasing a game after it's already come out did. being developed in japan didn't do SvC any favors

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

Which is why we had an American player in the 3rd Strike finals of Evolution last year. I expect this year to be no different.

stfu, for reals. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about as the gap between US and Japanese players, in all fighting games with the exception of crap like VF4 has become very, very small.

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One player out of many doesn't change much. Japanese are still better at 3S.

Despite what the game does, you guys are already setting it up to fail, just like the Dreamcast

Welcome to TNL. These motherfuckers hate everything.