Zelda: Twilight Princess delayed

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21 Aug 2005, 11:19 PM
sethsez

That has some damn good dungeons, but again, the overworld sucks. Capcom just can't make an interesting overworld to save their lives, while Link's Awakening has the best overworld of the series and some of the best dungeons as well (the themed puzzles are better integrated and make more sense than any in other game in the series). The only downside of LA is the bosses, which are admittedly better in Minish Cap.
22 Aug 2005, 12:42 AM
Drewbacca

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Pink?

Pink is the new renting?
22 Aug 2005, 01:44 AM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by sethsez

That has some damn good dungeons, but again, the overworld sucks. Capcom just can't make an interesting overworld to save their lives, while Link's Awakening has the best overworld of the series and some of the best dungeons as well (the themed puzzles are better integrated and make more sense than any in other game in the series). The only downside of LA is the bosses, which are admittedly better in Minish Cap.

I didn't care about the size of the overworld, because there was still tons to do in it. It felt much larger than it actually was to me. Minish Cap's dungeons were great, and it easily had the best artwork of any 2D Zelda (2D is where Wind Waker's style feels more natural), but what really stood out was the way it played. I thought it was easily the best iteration of 2D Zelda fighting & general control. LTTP had a larger and more epic quest, but could you climb up into the clouds Mario style? No, ha!

I quite like the Oracle games, but I never finished Ages & tried playing it right before I got Minish Cap...it just wasn't happening. Hasn't aged well at all. That's why I'm a bit skeptical as to how Link's Awakening would be if I were to go play it now in 2005.
22 Aug 2005, 02:18 AM
sethsez

Well, LA is basically the Oracle games with far, far better design in just about every respect. If you can deal with the menu system in those games, I recommend giving LA a shot just to see what the Oracle games were trying to do.

And my problem with Minish Cap's overworld wasn't the size, but how it was divided up. It felt like a series of barely-connected levels rather than a single flowing world. The same is true for the Oracle games, really, which is why I've never fully enjoyed a Capcom Zelda.
22 Aug 2005, 02:30 AM
Zerohero

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

I didn't care about the size of the overworld, because there was still tons to do in it. It felt much larger than it actually was to me. Minish Cap's dungeons were great, and it easily had the best artwork of any 2D Zelda (2D is where Wind Waker's style feels more natural), but what really stood out was the way it played. I thought it was easily the best iteration of 2D Zelda fighting & general control. LTTP had a larger and more epic quest, but could you climb up into the clouds Mario style? No, ha!

I quite like the Oracle games, but I never finished Ages & tried playing it right before I got Minish Cap...it just wasn't happening. Hasn't aged well at all. That's why I'm a bit skeptical as to how Link's Awakening would be if I were to go play it now in 2005.

I don't consider not being about to go into the clouds a flaw at all in Lttp. Thats like saying I couldn't run on walls in Oot. As long as it's not a hinderance to the gameplay and the gameplay flows and feels like one big living world as a zelda game should then I'm fine with not being able to go into the clouds.
22 Aug 2005, 03:10 AM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by sethsez

Well, LA is basically the Oracle games with far, far better design in just about every respect. If you can deal with the menu system in those games, I recommend giving LA a shot just to see what the Oracle games were trying to do.

And my problem with Minish Cap's overworld wasn't the size, but how it was divided up. It felt like a series of barely-connected levels rather than a single flowing world. The same is true for the Oracle games, really, which is why I've never fully enjoyed a Capcom Zelda.

I felt the same way, but it wasn't something that bothered me at all.

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I don't consider not being about to go into the clouds a flaw at all in Lttp. Thats like saying I couldn't run on walls in Oot. As long as it's not a hinderance to the gameplay and the gameplay flows and feels like one big living world as a zelda game should then I'm fine with not being able to go into the clouds.

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22 Aug 2005, 08:23 PM
Zerohero

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I just wish they would tell us why exactly it's delayed.
22 Aug 2005, 08:25 PM
Anal Kaboom

because nintendo hates us.
22 Aug 2005, 08:53 PM
Tommy Tallarico

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Yeah, so you never played Majora's Mask or Wind Waker or else you'd know that while these games refined the Zelda formula they also reinvented it. They were both brilliant games that were anything but "rehashes".

You're right, I never played Majora's Mask. The three rehashes I'm referring to are OOT, WW and Twilight Princess. Of course, I've never played Twilight Princess either, but everything I see in videos and interviews seems like it's the same game again, down to the exact same control methods, puzzle solving and combat.

OOT is one of the greatest games of all time because it was brand-new and innovative for its time. You could say it pretty much created 3D adventure games when no other company knew how to properly transition from 2D. WW is a poor attempt at trying to recreate OOT's magic with forced sailing and a forced graphical style to give it enough to differentiate itself. It was an expansion pack that let you sail around for hours instead of walking around for hours. Twilight Princess looks like it's going to be a second expansion pack with horse fighting. I'm not excited for it and I don't give a shit at all if it's delayed forever, because I don't want to play another Nintendo rehash.

I'll take back everything I've said if Twilight Princess ends up being a totally unique and engrossing experience like I've never played before, but it seems like Nintendo's stopped trying to make that sort of game and has instead settled down into the tried-and-true like an old man that's scared of change.
22 Aug 2005, 08:56 PM
Yoshi

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OOT is one of the greatest games of all time because it was brand-new and innovative for its time. You could say it pretty much created 3D adventure games when no other company knew how to properly transition from 2D.

Except that Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, and Metal Gear Solid had already done it...

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