Star Wars Galaxies: Trials of Obi-Wan

LucasArts and SOE have announced the third expansion for Star Wars Galaxies. It involves a story line driven by Obi-Wan's "blue glowie", thus the name Trials of Obi-Wan. The game enables players to visit Mustafar, the lava planet from Revenge of the Sith and also marks the return of a certain robotic fan favorite from Knights of the Old Republic.

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you suck! :link:

Wow, that looks pretty nice.

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

Wow, that looks pretty nice.

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Except it's Star Wars Galaxies.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Except it's Star Wars Galaxies.

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And except the whole plot idea is horrible. Obi-Wan visiting and advising millions of characters...

Obi makes the world go round.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

...and also marks the return of a certain robotic fan favorite from Knights of the Old Republic.

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HK-47 in SWG!?! HOLY SNAPS!

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

And except the whole plot idea is horrible. Obi-Wan visiting and advising millions of characters...

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Millions? What do you think this is, World of Warcraft?

no, then it would be more like everquest, a lot more like everquest.

http://www.mmogchart.com/

SWG has 250,000 subscribers. EverQuest has 450,000 subscribers. EverQuest II has 275,000.

SOE has officially been Blizzowned.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Millions? What do you think this is, World of Warcraft?

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You get my point...

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

http://www.mmogchart.com/

SWG has 250,000 subscribers. EverQuest has 450,000 subscribers. EverQuest II has 275,000.

SOE has officially been Blizzowned.

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impressive since their game is just everquest with worse races. never underestimate the power of fanboys.

though i notice lineage 2 is still kicking the hell out of wow, koreowned

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impressive since their game is just everquest with worse races. never underestimate the power of fanboys.

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LOL. Worst post from frostwolf, ever.

EverQuest is a piece of shit. WoW is one of the best games ever.

Go back to your grindfests.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

LOL. Worst post from frostwolf, ever.

EverQuest is a piece of shit. WoW is one of the best games ever.

Go back to your grindfests.

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i cant, the wow trial expired ;)

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

i cant, the wow trial expired ;)

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Ive played most of these games except for CoH, theyre all ridiculous. Especially SWG, which you put a lot of time in. I really dont understand you.

im being a bit over the top, i figured your blizzard fanboy post warrented it, i didnt hate wow that much but it is still a grinder, and one which, by your own admission was not fun for the first few levels, thats not very good. Swg at least tried something different, so i have more respect for them than i do for blizzard for putting out a game that played exactly like everquest 2, but with less combat dynamics. i am not playing swg, and am not going to with this news, but i at least respect that they have come closest to actually innovating in the mmo scene, they were just cursed by having one of the most whiney and demanding fanbases ever, star wars fans.

Star Wars Galaxies was basically 2nd generation Ultima Online. But it was really flawed, the combat system was a trash heap, it was slow, buggy, most of the game world was empty, no solid quest system, lots of professions but most were useless, and a blown opportunity in the first expansion pack.

Honestly, whats better - a game that absolutely nails and perfects what has come before, or a flawed, broken, and near-unplayable game that tries to come up with something new?

If you're paying $15 a month, I think the choice is obvious.

As for EverQuest 2... well, if SOE actually made EQ2 fun, then they improved on the first game majorly.

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im being a bit over the top, i figured your blizzard fanboy post warrented it

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Dude, all I did was quote numbers... Blizzard's one game has three times more subscribers than SOE's 3 flagship games combined. Its a slaughter out there.

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EverQuest is a piece of shit. WoW is one of the best games ever.

Go back to your grindfests.

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I love WoW, but it's a much of a grindfest as anything else, especially at lvl 60. you're either grinding instance A or grinding instance B

WoW is best short-term MMO out there. After roughly 500 hours, it's over. EverQuest II and especially SWG have better staying power. The Heroic Opportunities in EQII make combat much less robotic, and SWG's combat revamp made it into a whole new game as far as each class being useful. If you want PvP though, Guild Wars is the best, and it is free.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

im being a bit over the top, i figured your blizzard fanboy post warrented it, i didnt hate wow that much but it is still a grinder, and one which, by your own admission was not fun for the first few levels, thats not very good.

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Took me four hours to reach level 12 soloing. I'm two days into my warlock and 17, took me a week and a half to go from 51 to 58 on another character. It's really not hard to level in WoW at all and the quests make that incredibly easy.

p.s. No other game, MMO or otherwise, has done the creation of a world half as good as WoW has. Blizzard has hands-down created the single most beautiful and well crafted piece of explorable digital terrain ever.

wow weird chart. Is there something I don't know about lineage or is it just because a lot of asian countries play it?

"After roughly 500 hours, it's over."

I don't understand who could play any of them that long. They start boring me after about 50 or so.

500? Two hours every single day means that's 8 months of solid playing

WOW is hands down the better game. I don't have a lot of time for online games and i still managed to hit level 26 with my warrior. This wasn't even consistent play. I'd just put in an hour every couple of days.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying SW:Galaxies. The recent revamp has really changed the way the game plays. One of the best changes for me, was that I no longer had to produce stims to heal myself and other characters. Having medic training, means I can do a Bacta heal on command.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Star Wars Galaxies was basically 2nd generation Ultima Online. But it was really flawed, the combat system was a trash heap, it was slow, buggy, most of the game world was empty, no solid quest system, lots of professions but most were useless, and a blown opportunity in the first expansion pack.

Honestly, whats better - a game that absolutely nails and perfects what has come before, or a flawed, broken, and near-unplayable game that tries to come up with something new?

If you're paying $15 a month, I think the choice is obvious.

As for EverQuest 2... well, if SOE actually made EQ2 fun, then they improved on the first game majorly.



Dude, all I did was quote numbers... Blizzard's one game has three times more subscribers than SOE's 3 flagship games combined. Its a slaughter out there.

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no actually you quoted numbers in your second post, your first post was you trying to be a douche by taking giga's post about "millions" literally. and are you sure you are a math major?
250,000+450,000+275,000=975,000
according to the chart on the site you posted, the only numbers you have mentioned in the discussion, wow is at 2,000,000 now since then we have heard of them being at 2.5 mil, but we are using the numbers you were using to "prove" your case.
975,000X3= 2,925,000 which is quite a bit more than 2,000,000

and as for wether wow perfects whats been done before, or just does the same as is done before is debateable, we have discussed before the lack of variation of character appearences(which you agreed with, by the way), the weak combat animations, and unimpressive low level game, none of those things says perfection to me, it says pretty but totally unoriginal, with a snazzy dependence on phat loot for an endgame. mech is right, the worlds are a triumph, but it takes a bit more than pretty to make a good game. You oversell swg's weaknesses and drasticly overestimate wow's strengths.

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

Took me four hours to reach level 12 soloing. I'm two days into my warlock and 17, took me a week and a half to go from 51 to 58 on another character. It's really not hard to level in WoW at all and the quests make that incredibly easy.

p.s. No other game, MMO or otherwise, has done the creation of a world half as good as WoW has. Blizzard has hands-down created the single most beautiful and well crafted piece of explorable digital terrain ever.

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im impressed, i didnt find myself having that kind of speed, but the leveling thing was diffs point on another thread, that the game becomes fun after you hit a certian level and not fun before that, i agreed with half of that. i will agree abotut he terrain, i rave about how beautiful the terrain is, i wish coh and swg looked that good, because i prefer them and would like to play in a world that pretty, but pretty dosent save it from being rehash.

How I feel about this thread.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...id=16733&stc=1

Now would be the perfect opportunity to draw IP... but I'm too damn lazy. Someone do it for me.

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Originally Posted by NApOLm321

Now would be the perfect opportunity to draw IP... but I'm too damn lazy. Someone do it for me.

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http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...id=16735&stc=1

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

500? Two hours every single day means that's 8 months of solid playing

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Man, Yoshi did it in like 4 months. He's a MMO monster. It's amazing he's still married.

lol @ worse characters commentary

Everquest took every piece of shitty 1980's dungeons and dragons knockoff art and based an MMO around it.

The game is so horribly generic and souless that is heeelarious to me.

Given, the warcraft universe still has many of the mythic/fantasy/adventure genre mainstays, but the put a level of flourish, not to mention they flesh it out to a degree never seen in an MMO (or a maybe a game) ever.

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Originally Posted by Kidnemo

lol @ worse characters commentary

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^_^ it got you to lol, so it wasn't too bad.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

and unimpressive low level game [...] im impressed, i didnt find myself having that kind of speed, but the leveling thing was diffs point on another thread, that the game becomes fun after you hit a certian level and not fun before that, i agreed with half of that.

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My point was that you don't really spend much time in the low-level game. Now, granted, my speed in levelling up is because I know the layout by now and you were moving slower because everything was new to you.

Each class really doesn't start until 20, at which point almost every one gets at least one totally unique ability that sets them apart (some, like the rogue, get a bunch at 10) and at that point you've also reached at least one instance and are preparing for another. Blizzard did that because the unique abilities can really change the playstyle and to that point you're just using what's basically a typical setup divided between casters and fighters so that you can learn how to play your class while in a familiar style. I think it works really well because you can switch to a new class at any point and already know how to work things while you're getting baby step introductions to a different set of abilities.

I also think Blizzard did the low-level setup really well because you're fighting creatures that look like you should be fighting them (it's like CoH but with a more varied set of adversaries). It's all trolls and gnolls with large panthers and boars and things like that, not stupid little rabbits that would cleave in two from an actual broadsword yet somehow pose a true threat to a fully armored warrior with a two-handed sword. They start you off with regular sized creatures that don't seem out of place to be able to kill you, and by the end of the game you're routinely fighting twenty-foot-tall monsters. It scales really nicely.

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

Man, Yoshi did it in like 4 months. He's a MMO monster. It's amazing he's still married.

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I'm amazed as well. My plan is failing miserably.

Anyway, I represent one faction of the MMO population: the power gamer. Give me new content, and I'll kick its ass in a week, unless it is some stupid ass, forced-grouping garbage. WoW is not as good for power gaming, because the end comes too soon, and large groups are a requirement for everything at 60. Thus, it's a mismatch with my style and taste.

The fantasy setting doesn't help it or EverQuest any either. The races in WoW are bland as hell. EverQuest has some better ones, but none of them measure up to the Star Wars universe. Theme matters, and I need a race I want to be. That's not humans, and it sure as shit isn't dwarves.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

The fantasy setting doesn't help it or EverQuest any either. The races in WoW are bland as hell. EverQuest has some better ones, but none of them measure up to the Star Wars universe. Theme matters, and I need a race I want to be. That's not humans, and it sure as shit isn't dwarves.

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that pretty much exactly how i feel, but my boiling point is elves.

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

that pretty much exactly how i feel, but my boiling point is elves.

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Yeah, the alliance races in WoW are so shitty that I actually picked an elf. Of course, the other stupid thing about WoW is that you can only be certain classes with certain races.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Anyway, I represent one faction of the MMO population: the power gamer. Give me new content, and I'll kick its ass in a week, unless it is some stupid ass, forced-grouping garbage. WoW is not as good for power gaming, because the end comes too soon, and large groups are a requirement for everything at 60. Thus, it's a mismatch with my style and taste.

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In related news, I would actually enjoy Third Strike if Capcom focused on a kick-ass single player mode and got rid of that stupid forced multiplayer aspect.

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Originally Posted by epmode

In related news, I would actually enjoy Third Strike if Capcom focused on a kick-ass single player mode and got rid of that stupid forced multiplayer aspect.

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I feel like board games should start including a robotic arm with AI that lets it play against you, so I dont need to bother getting in touch with people when I decide to play a board game on a whim.

You know... you can play a multiplayer game without being forced to play on the same side as other players. Solo PvE and solo PvP fit well within the genre. Go back to playing your instance fest and leave this thread alone.

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Did you get this one, gamevet, and is anyone else still playing? I am enjoying ToOW more than RotW so far. I love the scenery on Mustafar, and the quest rewards aren't all products of a slave race.

I didn't get this one. My character is hardly what I'd call top level. I'm currently working on Pistoleer and on completing medic. I bought Jump to Lightspeed and it's still sitting in the box, waiting to be played. If I only had the time to play.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I didn't get this one. My character is hardly what I'd call top level. I'm currently working on Pistoleer and on completing medic. I bought Jump to Lightspeed and it's still sitting in the box, waiting to be played. If I only had the time to play.

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Ah, ok. On Intrepid, I have a full-template Jedi, a MBH/MPistoleer/CM4000, and a MMusician/MMerchant/MEntertainer, so I am always clamoring for new content. ToOW even has a new song for my musician.

Galaxies am fucked.

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Facing a slow, quiet death, massively multiplayer role playing game Star Wars Galaxies decided to throw caution to the wind, disenfranchise their current fan base and completely rework the game. Now becoming a Jedi, something that once took a bit of talented game play and fortitude, is as easy as choosing it as a profession. ThatÕs right, Jedi is one of the nine new character advancement paths. The others are commando, bounty hunter, medic, smuggler, officer, spy, entertainer and trader.

ThereÕs a bunch of other changes as well, including stoked up battle that is supposed to make things faster and more fun, but I think when you tinker this heavily with an existing MMO maybe itÕs just time to move on.

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NEW GAME ENHANCEMENTS AND FEATURES

Rest in Peace, old friend.

All the dorks who leveled up to Jedi the hard way = Owned

served, imo.