New, Original XB360 Wrestling game "Wrestle Kingdom"

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08 Sep 2005, 11:44 AM
Korly

New, Original XB360 Wrestling game "Wrestle Kingdom"

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Originally Posted by Gamespot

The developers at Yuke's, best known for the WWE SmackDown! series, are working on a new wrestling game called Wrestle Kingdom for the Xbox 360, and the differences in the console's graphic capabilities are, well, striking. Director Koji Ito and chief planner Shunsuke Katsumata commented that the Xbox 360 allows a game's atmosphere to be considerably more realistic than in previous consoles, which is due to the machine's lighting-effect calculations.

"Self-shadowing effects contribute a lot to making a pro wrestling game," Katsumata said. "When it comes to pro wrestling games, trying to render the wrestlers' muscles is really the key point. But up until now, we couldn't even use a virtual self-shadowing effect due to hardware limitations."

The whole articles is at http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08...d_all_headline

Well, this is the first time I've heard about this. No screenshots yet either, but it sounds interesting. I wonder why Yukes isn't working on the next gen Smackdown though.

In a slightly related bit of news, AKI (developers of the classic N64 wrestling games) is NOT working on the next-gen Def Jam. The creators of the Fight Night series are taking over the Def Jam franchise. Does this mean AKI could be working on a TNA game? Or better yet, a next-gen fishing game? Only time will tell...
08 Sep 2005, 11:48 AM
g0zen

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Originally Posted by Korly

Or better yet, a next-gen fishing game?

You're kidding, right?
08 Sep 2005, 11:54 AM
Korly

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Originally Posted by g0zen

You're kidding, right?

Only kinda.

http://www.aki.co.jp/lang_j/gameinfo/gameinfo12.html

http://www.aki.co.jp/lang_e/gameinfo/gameinfo12.html
08 Sep 2005, 12:52 PM
Jeremy

IGN has a video of this game, and it looks amazing. They did some amazing things with Toukon Retsuden years ago, and this looks to continue that tradition.
08 Sep 2005, 01:03 PM
TobalRox

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Originally Posted by Korly

The whole articles is at http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08...d_all_headline

Well, this is the first time I've heard about this. No screenshots yet either, but it sounds interesting. I wonder why Yukes isn't working on the next gen Smackdown though.

In a slightly related bit of news, AKI (developers of the classic N64 wrestling games) is NOT working on the next-gen Def Jam. The creators of the Fight Night series are taking over the Def Jam franchise. Does this mean AKI could be working on a TNA game? Or better yet, a next-gen fishing game? Only time will tell...

I heard about this at E3, and I've had a video, albeit a short one, on my computer since then. I'm sure Yukes is still making the next-gen Smackdown, it's just that it's PS3, so they have plenty of time to slap something together like they did with Just Bring It. Plus, there are multiple teams, just like how Yukes does Day of Reckoning AND the Smackdown series.
08 Sep 2005, 01:07 PM
PepsimanVsJoe

..

As long as it has a great Create-A-Wrestler I'm interested.

But I mean it's not your standard WWE fare so the developers should be able to go all out and create all sorts of whacked out characters.
08 Sep 2005, 01:47 PM
Jeremy

Given that you can make the alien from Alien in the DoR games, that shouldn't be a problem.
08 Sep 2005, 02:11 PM
Korly

Ok, I watched the 6 second video at IGN, and it looks promising. I guess it's got the NJPW license, but it looked like Mutoh was in there too, and he's an All Japan guy. Maybe it's got multiple licenses? I'd want at least the big 3 (AJPW, NJPW, Noah) and if we're getting greedy, throw in Zero-One.

I thought KOCII sucked by the way. It was WAY too stiff.
08 Sep 2005, 03:13 PM
jonas

It's STILL Yukes.
And they STILL suck.
08 Sep 2005, 03:32 PM
Jeremy

Korly, that's one thing I don't like about the vids I've seen of KoC II. All Star Pro Wrestling II seems much smoother. jonas, Yukes can be pretty good, but their U.S. efforts fall short since they're handcuffed by a ton of shit, like time being far too limited, and the limits of the WWE license. That, and they're on auto-pilot with the U.S. games.
08 Sep 2005, 06:26 PM
Korly

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

All Star Pro Wrestling II seems much smoother.

What about http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/917509.html ?
08 Sep 2005, 06:45 PM
Jeremy

That might be the one I'm thinking of. I saw a Liger vid on (I think) Purogamer.com) and the play looked smooth as silk. It's been a while since I saw the vid, which is why I can't remember exactly which game it was.
08 Sep 2005, 06:48 PM
Yoshi

I seriously wish there were a genre that I enjoyed as much as Korly and Jeremy enjoy wrestling games.
08 Sep 2005, 06:52 PM
Cowdisease

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I seriously wish there were a genre that I enjoyed as much as Korly and Jeremy enjoy wrestling games.

Trolling is a genre, isn't it?
08 Sep 2005, 06:57 PM
Yoshi

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Originally Posted by Cowdisease

Trolling is a genre, isn't it?

Excellent point. :D
08 Sep 2005, 07:30 PM
Rumpy

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I seriously wish there were a genre that I enjoyed as much as Korly and Jeremy enjoy wrestling games.

Wouldn't that be MMO's?
08 Sep 2005, 08:01 PM
Yoshi

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

Wouldn't that be MMO's?

That's the closest, since 2D Castlevanias aren't a genre unto themselves.
08 Sep 2005, 08:05 PM
Rumpy

You like Castlevania that much huh.
08 Sep 2005, 09:27 PM
g0zen

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Excellent point. :D

Hentai games rock. Believe me, I know.

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

You like Castlevania that much huh.

That's not a question.
08 Sep 2005, 09:32 PM
Drewbacca

I don't have much faith in Yukes. Sure, THQ probably butchers and bullies them around a bit when it comes to content, budget and schedule, but this is a company that can't get simple things like AI routines and match dynamics right after 6 or 7 iterations. That's incompetence.
08 Sep 2005, 09:42 PM
Jeremy

That's just them not giving a shit about the SD games. They got that stuff right in the Toukon Retsuden games, which shows me they can do it for any project that they're dedicated to.
08 Sep 2005, 09:51 PM
Rumpy

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Originally Posted by g0zen

That's not a question.

Good. It was never meant to be one.
08 Sep 2005, 09:59 PM
Drewbacca

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

That's just them not giving a shit about the SD games. They got that stuff right in the Toukon Retsuden games, which shows me they can do it for any project that they're dedicated to.

If I played this game I'd probably be able to point out some of the same flaws, and probably a bunch of new ones with the game. You displayed pleasure with the animations found in the newest Wrestlemania for the Xbox so I have a hard time trusting your input. You're not as picky as I am.
08 Sep 2005, 10:04 PM
Jeremy

You're acting as if I liked ALL of the animations. I expressed pleasure with SOME of the animations, since some were done well. I also liked how clear the create title belts were in the game, but didn't like how flat they appeared, or that the Women's, European, and Reggie Tag titles were butchered.
09 Sep 2005, 03:44 AM
WTFer

can anyone link the videos at ign?
I can't find the link
09 Sep 2005, 01:24 PM
REDX

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Originally Posted by jonas

It's STILL Yukes.
And they STILL suck.

Not as much as the people who programmed those shitty ass "RAW,and wrestlemania 21"games.
09 Sep 2005, 01:46 PM
TobalRox

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Originally Posted by WTFer

can anyone link the videos at ign?
I can't find the link

It's literally 3-5 seconds long... nothing to get your hopes up about since it's not that great of quality either.

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Originally Posted by REDX

Not as much as the people who programmed those shitty ass "RAW,and wrestlemania 21"games.

RAW was done by Anchor, who did the wonderful UFC game for DC... they just were rushed by THQ (sound familiar?)... I will not defend Studio Gigante.
09 Sep 2005, 01:53 PM
Jeremy

Anchor did turn Raw 2 into a good wrestling game. It could have been great if they had more time to iron out the programming problems.