Just heard about this on the news an hour ago....how many TNLers do we have out that way?
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Just heard about this on the news an hour ago....how many TNLers do we have out that way?
Not me.
All of L.A. is out?
Oh shit. Can someone loot me an HDTV please?
Yeah, apparently nobody knows why either, wonder how long it'll take to get shit up and running again?
they know why - some human error business at the plant or something, just said so on the news. story like thats gotta be true
I want one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerodash
But I want mine to be looted without playing the race card.
I blame Bush for the power loss.
George Bush hates L.A.
oh this man is on the right track...
Zing, you act as if anyone has blamed Bush for Hurricane Katrina. They blame him for taking his sweet ass time to even learn how bad it was down there.Quote:
Originally Posted by JefmcC
You haven't heard the crazy shit people are saying about Bush being responsible for the hurricane because he didn't sign the Kyoto thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
That's a load of shit anyway, because the Kyoto pact would actually raise global greenhouse gasses.
I know nothing of this Kyoto pact deal. But everything I have seen or heard about is his buddy Brownie being a doofus, and Bush being a doofus for having that doofus in charge of FEMA.
Power went out at my school. Took about an hour or so to get back on. I knew it happened in the valley, didn't think it was all of LA.
Power never even skipped at my place.
Heh, good one. Heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by JefmcC
.....
You are kidding, right?
The thing people don't know about Kyoto is that developing nations (i.e. India, China, ect) get free reign for something like 20 years on polluting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
So, while the US, Canada and Japan would actually reduce their pollution, globally the effect is more pollution overall. It gives the developing nations have a chance to "catch up" in their industrialization.
My economics instructor just talked to us about all this a few weeks ago. I can try to get some more information from him if you want, as I haven't really researched this myself. Here's some stuff I googled:
http://www.pacificresearch.org/press...7-11-04es.html
http://www.cato.org/dailys/03-30-01.html
http://www.envirotruth.org/myths.cfm
But anyway, is L.A. back on yet?
So without Kyoto ALL nations would be polluting whatever the fuck, instead of just the third world ones, and this would lead to less pollution than with Kyoto how?
Third world countries are where the massive increase in pollution will be coming from, not first world countries. ^__^Quote:
Originally Posted by piku
Its kind of like population - people talk about a population boom, but that shit is going down in 3rd world nations, not first world.
Kyoto was designed to tie the hands of first world countries and affect their economy. Which will, yes, lower pollution in those places. But to what end? By giving third world countries like China and shit all the opportunities in the world to pollute? Fuck that.
If I dole out 10 units of pollution and you dole out 2, that makes 12 units total. With Kyoto I'd be allowed to dole out 8 and you can dole out 4, or even 5 or 6. Which puts 12-14 units of pollution out there. Simplified and contrived but thats the basic idea.
I read New Zealand may have to reneg on the deal to boot, because its just too damn expensive for them.
Kyoto is a failure. Its a good try but its as crippled and worthless as so many other well-meaning international treaty.
i was 5 min away from getting to go home instead of having process lab and the fuckign power comes back on! So i had a 3 hour lab :(