Why the hell am I playing this?

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07 Nov 2005, 11:18 AM
JefmcC

Why the hell am I playing this?

I've had Buffy the Vampire Slayer sitting shrinkwrapped in the pile for over two years now. So I decided to give it a shot last night. What the hell is this crap? I know it's old, but even if I played this when it was new I would have thought it sucked. Just a lot of unresponsive button mashing until you win each fight. Then you move on to the next area with some really sloppy controls. I swear, it feels like Buffy is trying to walk on broken ankles.

Anyway, it did get me in the mood for a vampire game. I know Kain: Defiance is pretty good, what else?
07 Nov 2005, 11:20 AM
Yoshi

Ummm... Castlevania... but not the current gen console ones.

BTW, Buffy, assuming it's the original > Anything after the original Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
07 Nov 2005, 11:20 AM
Finch

Kid Dracula. Monster in my Pocket. I think Night or Dark or Evil or Sinister Man or something in Mega Man 7 was a vampire. You play Castlevania II?
07 Nov 2005, 11:29 AM
Zerodash

Play DMC3- you play as a gay vampire.
07 Nov 2005, 11:29 AM
rama

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Originally Posted by Finch

I think Night or Dark or Evil or Sinister Man or something in Mega Man 7 was a vampire.

that's shade man.
07 Nov 2005, 12:39 PM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by Finch

You play Castlevania II?

lol yeah, back when it was a new release on NES. Great game, but I have a hard time playing (and enjoying) most of those old games. I'd rather just keep the fond memory of the original expierence as I remember it.
07 Nov 2005, 12:39 PM
Sl1p

That was the first thing out of my mouth the second I touched ICO.
07 Nov 2005, 12:40 PM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Ummm... Castlevania... but not the current gen console ones.

BTW, Buffy, assuming it's the original > Anything after the original Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain

You really like that Buffy game? Yeah, it's the first one that is on Xbox.

At what point does it begin to get good?
07 Nov 2005, 12:42 PM
NeoZeedeater

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. It's an ARPG for PC.
07 Nov 2005, 12:44 PM
DArque Bishop

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. It's an ARPG for PC.

I second this. I just started playing this a few days ago, and it's pretty good so far.
07 Nov 2005, 12:47 PM
Finch

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

That was the first thing out of my mouth the second I touched ICO.

What was?

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That's Shade Man

or the gay vampire thing?
07 Nov 2005, 01:01 PM
Yoshi

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

You really like that Buffy game? Yeah, it's the first one that is on Xbox.

At what point does it begin to get good?

I thought it was pretty good. I'm not saying it's a world beater. I always thought Legacy of Kain was overrated anyway though, so the comparison was a bad one for me. Considering we have garbage like Final Fight X coming out, finding a beat'em up of Buffy's calibur is rare, even if it isn't a AAA title.

This was my review back when it was released.
07 Nov 2005, 01:14 PM
Korly

I liked the first Buffy game a lot.

If you want a vampire game, go play Morrowind.
07 Nov 2005, 01:23 PM
Tain

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That was the first thing out of my mouth the second I touched ICO.

You know why I love TNL?

Nobody has even begun to think about flipping the fuck out over that post.
07 Nov 2005, 01:24 PM
Sl1p

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Originally Posted by Finch

What was?

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Originally Posted by Me, realizing how terrible ICO is

Why the hell am I playing this?

Believe this news.

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Nobody has even begun to think about flipping the fuck out over that post.

Bullshit and YOU KNOW IT~
07 Nov 2005, 01:26 PM
Tain

Yeah, but it's not like GAF or anything.
07 Nov 2005, 01:26 PM
Finch

It would've been funnier if you said, "That's Shade Man!" or started talking about gay vampires.
07 Nov 2005, 02:26 PM
Yoshi

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Originally Posted by Tain

You know why I love TNL?

Nobody has even begun to think about flipping the fuck out over that post.

Why would anybody flip out? It's the truth.
07 Nov 2005, 02:32 PM
Bacon McShig

ON NO YUO DI'INT
07 Nov 2005, 02:34 PM
Yoshi

There is one thing I know to be true. If Sl1p and I agree on something, it absolutely has to be a fact.
07 Nov 2005, 03:13 PM
Finch

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

There is one thing I know to be true. If Sl1p and I agree on something, it absolutely has to be a fact.

http://cafe.gomorning.com/index.php?...19&hl=nintendo

Sl1p, you're the truth maker.

Except that i like Ico, just not enough to pay for it. BREACH IN THE FABRIC OF SPACE AND TIME!
07 Nov 2005, 03:35 PM
johnk_

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

There is one thing I know to be true. If Sl1p and I agree on something, it absolutely has to be a fact.

so let's see.. Yoshi's wrong most of the time..... and yep.. Sl1p's wrong most of the time...

BUT WHEN THEY COMBINE THEIR POWERS... :O

!
07 Nov 2005, 03:46 PM
Sl1p

Sorry, Im the only person on this forum who is correct 100% of the time. You just live in Bizarro world where everything sucks.
07 Nov 2005, 03:57 PM
dave is ok

I just played through Ico for the first time about a week ago.

If you dont get to the 'eureeka' moment of the game (which, by necessity is placed towards the end of the game) then you'll come away from it thinking it's a mediocre game. IMO
07 Nov 2005, 04:05 PM
Compass

Boktai 1 & 2 (especially 2).
07 Nov 2005, 04:09 PM
RoleTroll

Castlevania Chronicles (PS1)
07 Nov 2005, 04:18 PM
Salsashark

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Originally Posted by dave is ok

I just played through Ico for the first time about a week ago.

If you dont get to the 'eureeka' moment of the game (which, by necessity is placed towards the end of the game) then you'll come away from it thinking it's a mediocre game. IMO

Wait, which moment?
07 Nov 2005, 04:18 PM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by RoleTroll

Castlevania Chronicles (PS1)

Dam, I forgot I even have this. In fact, it's the reason I got a modded PS1 system. Too bad I packed all that stuff into storage.
07 Nov 2005, 04:24 PM
Rocca

Beyond the Beyond.
07 Nov 2005, 04:36 PM
Josh

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Originally Posted by Salsashark

Wait, which moment?

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.
07 Nov 2005, 04:57 PM
MrWhitefolks

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

At what point does it begin to get good?

the second you understand the control scheme and start using the special moves to chain together combos and throws.
07 Nov 2005, 05:42 PM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

the second you understand the control scheme and start using the special moves to chain together combos and throws.

lol, didn't even think it had throws.
07 Nov 2005, 07:09 PM
frostwolf ex

im surprised you think the original buffy was bad, i really enjoyed it, its probably one of the best 3d brawlers out there right now..not that its hard to do that, i am a big buffy fanboy but i thought it was well done.

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

lol, didn't even think it had throws.

that kind of explains a lot, once you get the control scheme its really well done.
07 Nov 2005, 07:33 PM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

I've had Buffy the Vampire Slayer sitting shrinkwrapped in the pile for over two years now. So I decided to give it a shot last night. What the hell is this crap? I know it's old, but even if I played this when it was new I would have thought it sucked. Just a lot of unresponsive button mashing until you win each fight. Then you move on to the next area with some really sloppy controls. I swear, it feels like Buffy is trying to walk on broken ankles.

It was massively overrated generi-junk that people fawned over because of the theme.

This logic also applies to the TV show.
07 Nov 2005, 07:39 PM
MrWhitefolks

actually no. the title itself was an INSANELY solid 3rd person action beatemup. period.

i hate the show and the premise the game was built on, but that wont deter me from playing a good game nonetheless. this shit has a great(for when it was released) engine, far above average level layouts(especially for being a licensed property), and an intuitive attack/combo engine that anyone with a splinter of skill can work with(while leaving enough open for people like myself to find out far more crazy and advanced stuff).

the only thing it really needed was a 2 player mode, and the ability to get buffy in something other than pants. lol
08 Nov 2005, 12:59 AM
animegirl

Finch is currently my favorite poster.
08 Nov 2005, 01:39 AM
George

I played The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay from start to finish today. It was good and all, but..why?
08 Nov 2005, 01:52 AM
MechDeus

I played a bunch of Code Age Commanders and the entire time I kept asking myself, "Why in God's name am I still playing this when I have actual good games to play?" I think the whole not having a job for a while made me go a little loopy, as I was starting to hunt down games to pirate based solely on how terrible I thought they'd be. HAY THERE CRITICAL VELOCITY

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

I know Kain: Defiance is pretty good, what else?

Have you played the rest of the series? You'll probably be pretty lost otherwise.
08 Nov 2005, 02:47 AM
Cowutopia

On a related note, Kingdom Hearts is a pretty bad game. I tried continuing my pitiable 4 hour save file, finished up Tarzan's world, and about twenty minutes later I realized I never want to play the game again.
08 Nov 2005, 03:04 AM
animegirl

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

On a related note, Kingdom Hearts is a pretty bad game. I tried continuing my pitiable 4 hour save file, finished up Tarzan's world, and about twenty minutes later I realized I never want to play the game again.

I stopped playing at almost the exact same point.
08 Nov 2005, 03:26 AM
Finch

Kingdom Hearts was the biggest piece of crap i ever paid for until Chain of Memories. It was The Little Mermaid world for me. I gave it to a friend for her birthday, along with a big Patrick Star pillow so i didn't feel like a big fat jerk. *sigh* KH 2 will fool me a third time. SHAME ON GOD!

Mech, your news on Code Age Commanders makes me really sad. It's sooo pretty to look at! It looks like Unlimited Saga, but with environments and characters that actually move. No jumping automatically makes it better than Kingdom Hearts. Then again, it's the same type of idea that shat out countless .hack stuffs and more Full Metal Alchemest than was neccessary. That's anything beyond the animé.

>:D
08 Nov 2005, 03:40 AM
Eightbitbreaks

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Originally Posted by animegirl

I stopped playing at almost the exact same point.

Me three. KH sucked.
08 Nov 2005, 04:13 AM
Josh

I stopped about two hours in. Kingdom Hearts can fuck off.
08 Nov 2005, 10:10 AM
Mzo

Yeah, KH is really bad. I had a free guide from back when I worked at EB so I just used that to hold my hand throughout, I just wanted to get the game over with. Running back and forth between 4 rooms trying to find the one that starts the next retarded cinema scene is lame as hell.

There's some good in it (sound, characters, graphics, that whole Disney thing), but the level design is so terrible =(

also: DA SEAWEED IS ALWAYS GREENAH
08 Nov 2005, 10:36 AM
MechDeus

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Originally Posted by Finch

Mech, your news on Code Age Commanders makes me really sad.

Code Age Commanders is basically KH only now there's animation lag for all of your attacks and dodging. The worst just got worse! Shame they wasted such a beautiful graphics engine on it. :(
08 Nov 2005, 11:15 AM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

I played a bunch of Code Age Commanders and the entire time I kept asking myself, "Why in God's name am I still playing this when I have actual good games to play?" I think the whole not having a job for a while made me go a little loopy, as I was starting to hunt down games to pirate based solely on how terrible I thought they'd be. HAY THERE CRITICAL VELOCITYHave you played the rest of the series? You'll probably be pretty lost otherwise.

That's the thing, I can sort of see the good points in Buffy, but I can't play this crap when there's Ninja Gaiden Black in the same room. NGB, now that's a beat'em up.

I haven't played every single Kain game, but I've followed the story enough since the begining. Maybe I'll track down a copy of the very first one and give it a play through? Have to unpack the PS1 for that!

I'll force my way into Buffy a little more tonight (LOL!) and see what happens. Just made it to the underground church.
08 Nov 2005, 12:48 PM
Master of 7s

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Originally Posted by Finch

Mech, your news on Code Age Commanders makes me really sad. It's sooo pretty to look at! It looks like Unlimited Saga.....

Ok see, that right there?

That's where you should have stopped and went........oh....nevermind.
08 Nov 2005, 12:51 PM
frostwolf ex

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

That's the thing, I can sort of see the good points in Buffy, but I can't play this crap when there's Ninja Gaiden Black in the same room. NGB, now that's a beat'em up.

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i can see what you are saying, ngb is better, but i most of us beat buffy back in the days before ngb was out, its kind of like playing daggerfall after morrowind, the base mechanics and freedom still are fun, but after seeing the better graphics, improved stability and such its hard to go back.
08 Nov 2005, 09:00 PM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

This logic also applies to the TV show.

Wow...how did I get away with saying that without getting nerdjumped? The internet has really changed...that was building up inside me for so long!

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Originally Posted by Josh

Kingdom Hearts can fuck off.

I have sigs turned off, but that's going in mine all the same.
08 Nov 2005, 09:08 PM
Rocca

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Originally Posted by Finch

Chain of Memories.

I should have mentioned this title earlier. I brought this with me to keep me busy in the bus trip to New York last summer. I tried enjoying it, mainly to rush through the game to learn more about the KH storyline, until I realized that the game was too boring to even care anymore. Now, I don't even look forward to KH2. I mean, at all, it can get cancelled for all I care.
08 Nov 2005, 09:55 PM
FX

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

im surprised you think the original buffy was bad, i really enjoyed it, its probably one of the best 3d brawlers out there right now..not that its hard to do that, i am a big buffy fanboy but i thought it was well done.

that kind of explains a lot, once you get the control scheme its really well done.

I liked the first Buffy game as well. The fact that it was $5 helped even more. The 2nd one was garbage - who gives a shit about playing as Willow?
08 Nov 2005, 10:30 PM
Compass

A bunch of nonsense all the sudden. Kingdom Hearts, crap? Ha! That was a damn fine piece of software. Flaws? Sure! Still quite good.
09 Nov 2005, 01:33 AM
Ste-Von

I didn't even get past the Alice in Wondeland level before I gave up on Kingdom Hearts. Trying to platform on some giant mushrooms with horrible controls and one of the worst cameras ever? Ummm, no thanks.
09 Nov 2005, 02:15 AM
Eightbitbreaks

The combat was terrible too. Even the cool Disney crap couldn't save that tedious shit.
09 Nov 2005, 02:20 AM
MechDeus

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Originally Posted by JefmcC

I haven't played every single Kain game, but I've followed the story enough since the begining. Maybe I'll track down a copy of the very first one and give it a play through? Have to unpack the PS1 for that!

Or a PC. In any case, I found it to be an interesting, if overly drawn out and stupidly laid out Zelda clone. If it wasn't for the rest of the series I'd have forgotten about it long ago but I couldn't even stand to finish it last time I tried play through.

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Originally Posted by Compass

A bunch of nonsense all the sudden. Kingdom Hearts, crap? Ha! That was a damn fine piece of software. Flaws? Sure! Still quite good.

I can say with no reservation that Kingdom Hearts - from a gameplay perspective - is one of the worst action-RPGs ever created. Easily. It was painful to play through and had some of the most abysmal level design I've ever seen. And somehow they made they managed to make CoM even worse.

I swear, it's like they got together and purposefully worked as hard as they could to try and make the worst piece of software humanly possibly while avoiding the easy way out of just riddling it with glitches, yet still keep the visual and audio design attractive enough to make some of force ourselves through it. I fell into that trap, by gum, and I'll play KH2 because of it (I never learn my lesson), but it's the first game that I've seriously contemplated cheating my way through because it just wasn't worth it.
09 Nov 2005, 02:22 AM
EMAGDNIM

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Originally Posted by Josh

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.

Shit...I knew I should not have read that...now I don't want to watch the movie...

Oh and why did you even buy this game?!
09 Nov 2005, 04:06 AM
Finch

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

Ok see, that right there?

That's where you should have stopped and went........oh....nevermind.

(UNLIMITED saga) ULS had a really nice art style. DOY.

/_\ Compass...
09 Nov 2005, 09:17 AM
Yoshi

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Originally Posted by SXA

The combat was terrible too. Even the cool Disney crap couldn't save that tedious shit.

"Cool Disney" is an oxymoron. I absolutely cannot wait until Michael Eisner dies and then Disney goes belly up. It will happen.
09 Nov 2005, 09:23 AM
Bacon McShig

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

"Cool Disney" is an oxymoron. I absolutely cannot wait until Michael Eisner dies and then Disney goes belly up. It will happen.

Chicken Little earned $40 mil in it's opening weekend. :(

Also, Eisner left a few months ago.
09 Nov 2005, 10:08 AM
Dyne

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Originally Posted by Josh

I stopped about two hours in. Kingdom Hearts can fuck off.

i stopped during the training.

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