Kansas college professor beaten for anti-creationism sentiments

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

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And, of course, that's the beauty of religion. It's based on "faith" so they don't have to prove anything. Like the Bible says, "Proof denies Faith, and without Faith I am nothing." Exactly. It's the perfect cop-out.

...and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

...and promptly vanished in a puff of logic.

yeha that was hitchikers guide, not scripture, unless you think hhg is scripture, in which case you are a big fucking nerd. :D

and yes, i know, i am one too.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

Would you agree with me in saying that a lot of the conflict between "conservatives" and "liberals" mostly comes down to technology shrinking the country and one group or the other not wanting to change or lose its culture? That a lot of the right/left political arguments have nothing to do with religion and everything to do with one group not wanting to change?

Definitely. Some people just express their beliefs in an extremely poor way (like the professor and the redneck guys who beat him). And of course, many (if not most) use their religion solely to serve their own self interests which negates positive change or wanting to get along peacefully with someone. So yeah, as the population expands the two groups start to butt heads and the rotten apples start to really come out of the woodwork. Interesting point.

edit: The fact is, the politics of man and religion are NOT supposed to mix (goes without saying). It's a disastrous mixture. Jesus hid when the people tried to make him king. The apostles for awhile scratched their heads because the Jews were anticipating the messiah to be a "physical" king like David who would overthrow the romans (the apostles often asked him 'are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time? Acts 1:7 IOW 'Are you going to defeat the Romans now and replace that evil guy Herod who is in office now?'). But the answer was no. And they and all christians after him were supposed to imitate him and do the same.

Remember, the apostles were viewed by the religious leaders scornfully as "unlettered and ordinary." Basically they were viewed as "country bumpkins." So coming from a rural Hebrew culture that longed for the government to be changed, they'd especially be predisposed to a fierce "fighting spirit" which Jesus had to gradually wean them off of.

And everything else he preached emphasized a spiritual kingdom that would bring changes, both heavenly and on the earth (Matt 6:9 and10).

But through the centuries most christians ignored Jesus teachings on "kingdom" which has just contributed to the problem and aggravatted it. Said ignoring of these principals leads to petty situations like the subject of this thread about the Prof getting beat, and waaaaay more severe and scary situations like "God is guiding me to carry out this war." :rolleyes:

Again as I said in a post earlier, the decision a person makes on these things can't be made/forced in a classroom. It takes a personal, conscious decision. Watching Joe Shlubb Professor and Billy Bobb Briggs fighting on the sidelines is just another distraction.

Anyways, that's pretty much all I have to say on this. Hope I was able to express myself OK and not ruffle too many feathers. :p