NYC transit workers are set to strike at midnight. A winter storm is going to hit us at the same time. I seriously want to vomit.
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NYC transit workers are set to strike at midnight. A winter storm is going to hit us at the same time. I seriously want to vomit.
lol @ NY
Seriously, just stab me.
F it. I stay home tomorrow.
They better not fucking strike. I don't think it'll happen anyways. They will probably have some deal signed up around 2am or something..just late enough to worry some people while they sleep.
Wait, is this going to fuck up the subways? I was going to head into NYC tomorrow morning.
yeah its going to fuck everything up.
I'm new to NY, so i gotta know... Does this happen EVERY year?
God dammit. They better not.
every 4 years or so.
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Originally Posted by Finch
Nah..the last contract talks were 3 years ago I think. Of course they struck a contract deal the last minute and I'm sure the same will happen tonight.
The last strike was in 1980 and lasted a few days. A strike will cripple the city. People can't go to school, work and you can't go to manhattan by car unless there are 4 people inside...how they'll enforce that is beyond me. It'll be a traffic mess. Deliveries (like USPS, UPS, FedEx..etc) will be effected..etc. It will be more than an annoyance.
Its better not fucking happen but I think a deal will be made.
Public transit strikes in Philadelphia all the fucking time. It sucks doesn't it?
The last time was 1980, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
That long huh? I must have been thinking of all the negotiations that go to the last day.
Yeah, it's not like in Philadelphia where nothing keeps it in check. When NYC transit strikes they get fined up the ass, so it's not really worth it.
Either way, it's going to be really shitty tomorrow. Ice like whoa.
Maybe it'll be like the NHL strike, and the transit unions will turn down a really good deal from the city at the last minute, have to sit out the entire year, and then accept another contract where each district has $12 million less in their salary cap.
Stupid NHLPA...
Back on subject: Good luck walkin' in that winter wonderland. Bring the skates/sleds.
Ok, it's a half assed strike that only affects private lines. Tomorrow they're going to up the ante.
Long Island rules.
If there's a strike, maybe. But really Long Island just sucks.
Fucking MTA. Dole, burg's right.
Doesn't mean we don't rule, though.
Yeah I don't have a problem with Long Islanders, but really geographically Long Island sucks. It's like Jersey, but with no access to the rest of the world.
You don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
Fuck, I do and I live here.
Y'know..if I knew beforehand that MTA workers (some who barely have any education whatsoever) earn close to 50K a year I would have applied for a job/civil service exam a long time ago.
I'll check out the exam site periodically..you never know.
Yeah, Long Island had its share of assholes and retards.
This strike still looks ready to ruin my shit tomorrow.
Could strike members be hit with a lawsuit if they cause too great a loss for most businesses to operate properly?
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
That would be awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
It would go against the workers right to strike, but damned if you do, damned if you don't. :p
They could be fined $25000 each the first day they strike, doubling each additional day.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
However...any settlement is obviously going to waive those penalties, so it's like they don't even exist.
The transit system would be smart to have additional workers ready for this kind of situation, then all strike members can take their freshly issued pink slips and fuck off.
Oh my. Big final on genetics tomorrow. Things might get interesting.
I'm not against their right to strike, but they should time this differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
That. Fucking. Sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
And that's so mean Sleeveboy (shit, who am I kidding? I smirked a bit too. Thank god I moved away from that island)
If they're facing fines, then they really don't have the right to strike.
I'm curious as to their reason for striking.
It sounds to me like they make a good living already, but think they're entitled to live in the most expensive parts of the city.
Another deadline has come and gone. The latest news was that the TWU rejected the latest MTA offer and then went to their union headquarters.
And it's a go!
:cry:
The rest of the article at this link.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSNBC
This absolutely sucks, hard. I'm not totally effected by this since I live on Staten Island, and their one single train will still run, at least according to Mayor Bloomberg's contingency plan. But this is one of the worst things that can happen to NYC (and at the worst time), short of a blackout or terrorist attack. Millions of people will be affected, and millions of dollars will be lost each day this strike continues. They are almost literally holding the city hostage.
I can understand the workers frustrations with their contract with the MTA, but striking was made illegal cause it can cripple this city. It's not like this strike will only affect one company; this affects anyone without a car, and in NYC that is a helluva lot of people. The head of the union asked for the public's understanding and support, but I doubt they will get it. Bottom line is that their private matters with the MTA have become ALL of our problems.
I don't like the MTA that much either, but they actually look like the victims in the way this is being portrayed in the media. They said they addressed the union's demands and put a final offer on the table that should've satisfied them, but they rejected without putting forth any counter offer. Whether it's true or not, it makes the union look too demanding.
I don't mean to sound insensitive to the workers. But damn, I (and 7 million others) have to at least get to work each day. And I ain't taking a $20 cab ride each way to do it.
This sucks. I need to get to my school library to study for Wednesday's finals....unless the strike lasts for more than one day...
Looks like I got home just in time.
Fucking greedy shits.
Domestic terrorists.
There's just about no one at my work right now. I wasn't affected by the strike because I come into the city from NJ via public transporation and I walk to work from the Port Authority. In fact, the strike made my commute through the Lincoln Tunnel faster due to the scaring away of cars. Nonetheless, this strike sucks big time for everyone else and I hope the MTA and the Transit Union resolves this ASAP.
Looks like I'll be having chair races with some of my co-workers later today.
Because it's smart to hire 50K additional workers to do nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
Yes. Let's have thousands of untrained workers ready to run the entire mass transit system of new york city on a moment's notice....Or should they all be trained ahead of time? And waiting at home for years and years and years in case a strike happens?Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
You would be smart to think about things before posting them.
New York sucks.
When I first heard this on the news: "NY City transit system is closed down..." 'Oh crap...terrorism!"...due to a workers' strike..." ....bwahahahahaha! I went from concern to apathy in record time.
Well, the TWU is fucked. The walk-out was just ruled as unconsciable and completely against the rules for which they agreed upon. They're now being fined one million dollars a day, plus $25,000 PER UNION MEMBER which will DOUBLE each day, and a bunch of other really hefty fines.
TWU bitches still won't back down, though. Said they would stop IF they get a 6% pay increase each year AS WELL AS all fines nullified. Oh, with concessions. Greedy fucking assholes.
Seriously. This goes well beyond workers' rights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpol
I'm just wondering how they intend to make those fines stick? If strike members can't work after this or they refuse, usually they'll go back on the welfare system or just live in debt (i.e. not pay a cent).
From what I understand, all these fines should legally have to go through the employer, cause in the case of strike or walkout, there's nothing much they can do cept fire them.
No, I'm talking about people with this kind of experiance waiting at the chance to get a job in the case of an emergancy. You don't get paid when you're not on the card.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
C'mon this is new york, people should be hiring all the time.
oh shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by anish
When can we start assaulting these people?
Which do you mean, the operaters or the system?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
Meh, I don't care. Sucks for you bitches, though. Oh and Merry Christmas and all of that jazz.
p.s. The union workers feel their work isn't appreciated, so telling them all to go unemployed really isn't helping matters. I'm not sure why they need to feel their work is appreciated.
Members of the TWU.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
Nobody's work is ever appreciated. Welcome to planet Earth, TWU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Voltz, what you are saying still doesn't make sense. These aren't unskilled jobs like those in the steel mills, meat packing plants, clothing manafacturing plants of ~120 years ago. Using strikebreakers is very difficult when the entire TWU is sitting it out. There's job training, management, administrative infrastructure, on the level of probably tens of thousands of employees.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
I just find it hard to imagine there is an entirely capable, trained, experienced work force sitting at home that can be "called in" to replace the transit workers. What are these people doing in the meantime?
That said, I think the TWU is rediculous. They've got their hand on NYC's gonads, and they know they just have to give them a squeeze to get a raise, benefits, etc. I think subways need more automation, robots can't complain about increased wages, their metallic hearts only know how to move trains (and possibly kill all humans?)
I don't think punishing the workers will do any good. The union heads need to get straightened out. Many of the transit workers didn't really WANT to strike, but were forced into the matter. It's either quit or strike, and most of them, I imagine, just want to get back to work.
This strike thing is fucking stupid. I'm watching the news right now and there were people waiting in 2-3 hour lines to leave the city and go back to Long Island.
I feel no sympathy for any of these MTA workers right now. Fucking greedy bastards is what they are. Someone has to bend, and I don't care who the hell it is.
Eh, I don't think it's fair to blame any individual worker...they're more fucked by this than anyone else. The union leadership, sure, but the workers have very little choice in this.
Yes....they were only following orders.
Holy Nazi Germany Batman!
Even Bloomberg isn't immune to the strike's effects...
http://images.scotsman.com/2005/12/21/2112nycb.jpg
Bloomberg is only on that bridge so they don't lynch his ass. PR Damage Control mode.
That asshole doesn't even live nor work in Brooklyn.
I want to see him walk from the Upper East Side down to City Hall.
I walked from the outskirts of north Philly to south Philly one night because I couldn't get a cab. Sucked.
Every one of you motherfuckers walking around NYC right now totally lose, and I'm sorry to hear about it.
He's been sleeping on a cot in his emergency command center in Brooklyn since Thursday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
If it wasn't so fucking cold, I wouldn't mind walking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Let's review my commute this morning:
6:20am: Woke up
7:20am: Left my apartment
7:45am: Arrived at my bus stop (my firm is chartering private buses)
8:30am: Called to find out where the bus was
8:35am: Moved bus stop to McDonalds a block away
9:00am: Learned that bus wasn't coming and cars were coming to get us
10:00am: Cars arrive
10:45am: Cars complete six-block approach to Williamsburg Bridge
11:30am: Arrived at work
Generally I wake up at 8:30 to get to work around 9:30.
And really, this sucks, but so many people have it much worse.
Ummm I believe back in 1980, the President (Regan?) allowed hiring of workers to run the transit system when the original workers went on strike. They were known as scabs because they took jobs of actual TWU workers and they didnt like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by anish
They're main gripe is the pension. They're getting more than enough money and they're bitching? No company will ever give their workers a 6% raise. On average, a company will give 1-2% in a raise. 3% is more than enough of a raise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpol
You're confusing the air traffic controller strike with the 1980 NYC Transit strike. Plus, Reagan wasn't President until 1981.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit