Unreal Tournament 2007 confirmed as first official PS3 launch game.

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Originally Posted by Tain

And Quake 3 is as far from a controller-designed FPS as possible, unlike Halo.



Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, there's a world of a difference between UT and Quake. And, believe it or not, UT, Quake, and Halo. It's just like any other genre; there are a few titles that have enough differences amongst themselves to be worth playing, and there are the games that are nearly worthless outside of them.

Halo has enough of the 'little differences' to stand out. Nothing is grenade-crazy like Halo. There's the "floaty" movement, which Tribes had a bit of, but the jetpack dueling was beyond awkward to the point of stupid. Melee (and its tracking) is a gigantic part of the game, much more than in CS, Q3/4, BF, UT, and anything else I can think of. I can completely understand why someone would prefer it over any other FPS.



A shitload of Quake 3. There hasn't been a deathmatch FPS I've enjoyed half as much as it. Lots of UT and UT2004 (mostly LAN). A bit of Day of Defeat, and plenty of hours of CS (1.6 more than Source). Tons of singleplayer FPSes, also. I'd be interested in BF2 if it worked on the campus connection, as I'm definitely not going to be getting any good LAN play with it around the dorms.

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Good point about Quake. It defininitly is designed for mouse/key.

Halo, like most FPS's takes ideas from other games. Grenades are everywhere, from Call of Duty to TFC, grenades are there. Floaty movement is in other games too. Look at UT's mutators. Almost everything imaginable that you would want to customize your game is there. UT's mods open up the door even further with customization. The Chaos mod and Especially UTXMP, which was from UT2 offered class-based play. Melee attacks were big in Unreal Championship 2 as well.

Since you play PC FPS's you must see that mouse/key is the way to go.
My head hurts. Merry Christmas.

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Originally Posted by Opaque

Not to mention Halo 2 has regenerative shields; which makes the strategy of the game different from any FPS where you have to find health pick ups or perhaphs don't regain health at all.

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That is different and Call of Duty 2 tried it. Single player it works, but multiplayer, it just feels cheesy. To each their own, though.

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Originally Posted by Changeling

The Chaos mod and Especially UTXMP, which was from UT2 offered class-based play. Melee attacks were big in Unreal Championship 2 as well.

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I don't really want to get into this conversation here, but I just want to mention that we all know UTXMP and UC2 are complete trash and have no reason to be mentioned here with all of these other great FPS's.

And merry christmas to you too! :D

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Halo is for kids. Period. It is generally for people that don't want to bother with PC upgrades, patches and what-not.

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How far did you have to reach into your ass to pull this shit out?

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Originally Posted by Changeling

Good point about Quake. It defininitly is designed for mouse/key.

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I had to buy a mouse for it when I had it on DC awhile back. There's just no other way it can be done.

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Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

I don't really want to get into this conversation here, but I just want to mention that we all know UTXMP and UC2 are complete trash and have no reason to be mentioned here with all of these other great FPS's.

And merry christmas to you too! :D

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I don't like UC2 that much , either. XMP, when there was a community around it , was alot of fun. I don't mean 2004 XMP, I mean Unreal 2 XMP. By the time they ported it to 2004, no one seemed to care, since most people thought it was more fun to do spider kills and run over people in 2004 Onslaught. It is a shame though, if XMP doesn't get rushed and done properly, it would be lots of fun on UT 2007.

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Originally Posted by Xero_Kaiser

How far did you have to reach into your ass to pull this shit out?

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Maybe the kid thing was much, but the point being if you got a PC with FPS's are you REALLY going to bother with Halo2 ? The game is fine. I have no problem with it. I DO have a problem when people act like its the best thing ever. It just annoys me when I hear people saying this shit whenever they should know better. There are so many things out there now that are better on PC.

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Maybe the kid thing was much, but the point being if you got a PC with FPS's are you REALLY going to bother with Halo2 ? The game is fine. I have no problem with it. I DO have a problem when people act like its the best thing ever. It just annoys me when I hear people saying this shit whenever they should know better. There are so many things out there now that are better on PC.

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YES! I've been playing Quake4 online for over a month now. I usually play my FPS on PC but Halo has a mix that makes it unlike anything else. I still go back and play H2 at least 3 times a week.

And how can you claim to be a serious FPS'er... Battlefield 2. Check out how much of my life wasted playing BF2

*In honor of Diffx*

LAWL!!!

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Maybe the kid thing was much, but the point being if you got a PC with FPS's are you REALLY going to bother with Halo2 ?

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I do. It's not like it plays anything like UT or Quake, so I don't see why having one would mean you should skip over the other.

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The game is fine. I have no problem with it. I DO have a problem when people act like its the best thing ever. It just annoys me when I hear people saying this shit whenever they should know better. There are so many things out there now that are better on PC.

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So what, people can't like it because you think there are better games out there? I'd rather play UT2K4 but that doesn't mean I know better than my friends who prefer Halo 2. It's a good game, that much you've already admitted, so why you're getting all bent out of shape if someone prefers it to whatever you're playing is beyond me.

all this quake talk makes me wish i still had the original and the graphics patch.

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Originally Posted by Changeling

I don't like UC2 that much , either. XMP, when there was a community around it , was alot of fun. I don't mean 2004 XMP, I mean Unreal 2 XMP. By the time they ported it to 2004, no one seemed to care

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I realize what you meant, which is why I thought it was so rediculous that you brought up 2 craptacular games when talking about what makes FPS's so great/unique. Even with a community both of those games suck complete ass (regardless of whether they had "unique" and "new" ideas in them).

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Originally Posted by Changeling

Maybe the kid thing was much, but the point being if you got a PC with FPS's are you REALLY going to bother with Halo2 ? The game is fine. I have no problem with it. I DO have a problem when people act like its the best thing ever. It just annoys me when I hear people saying this shit whenever they should know better. There are so many things out there now that are better on PC.

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I have a PC that can play all FPS's that are being released, but pretty much everytime I hop online it's with Xbox Live. Not because I don't like the PC FPS's that are currently out, but because it's easy, it's quick, and typically the community is great. It's really now more of a matter of interface and convenience for me (coupled with great games), and Xbox Live happens to blow everything on a PC out of the water in terms of all of that.....and it also just so happens my favorite current game is also on Xbox Live too.

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Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

I have a PC that can play all FPS's that are being released, but pretty much everytime I hop online it's with Xbox Live. Not because I don't like the PC FPS's that are currently out, but because it's easy, it's quick, and typically the community is great. It's really now more of a matter of interface and convenience for me (coupled with great games), and Xbox Live happens to blow everything on a PC out of the water in terms of all of that.....and it also just so happens my favorite current game is also on Xbox Live too.

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Exactly. I've played Fear, CoD2, Quake 4, UT2k4 HL2, all on my pc... I've played the multiplayer for them a little bit, but at the end of the day, if I want to have fun and talk some shit, it's Halo 2 and Live time.