Any courses that teach you how to be like Enron? Those can come in handy.
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Any courses that teach you how to be like Enron? Those can come in handy.
That's an MBA-level course. :(
Unless you're coming out of a top level school for undergrad i think you need an MBA to get the good jobs. But if you're getting an MBA anyway, i think it's good to have an undergrad degree in another field to show what you can do. Like an undergrad math + MBA = high salary. Once i get a job i'm going to work on an MBA, then engineering Masters + MBA = redonculous salary and i will rule the world.
Depends on what you mean by good job. Manager or director? All you need is an undergrad. VP and up, almost guarantee you need an MBA.
By good job, i'm thinking $80k per year and up either to start or within a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
I may talk shit about buisness majors a lot, but there really is no getting around me being poor.
I don't think there's any undergrad degree you can get where you'll be paid $80k immediately out of school, except maybe the expensive places to live like Cali and NYC. That said, since you live in LA, you could probably come pretty close to $80k out of school with a biz degree, unless you got it from some 2 bit community college or something.
That's my point, you can't get a good job as a business major with only an undergrad unless you're coming out of harvard. You can get something decent, I'd guess a lucky person could get 45 or 50, but even then you'll be blocked from advancing quickly due to the people coming in with MBAs and jumping ahead of you. An MBA is what a bachelors was 30 years ago, an instant meal ticket and a huge advantage over everyone else. Same with any graduate degree (except english, they still won't make any money).Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
Someone with an MBA and no experience won't leapfrog anyone. If you get in at say, 60k with your undergrad and move up to say, 70k after a couple years, a guy with an MBA and no experience will come in that same year at 70k. The difference is the guy with the MBA will advance faster than you in the company.
what sort of engineering are you in/going into?Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy