If you were a business major (bachelor's degree), what kind of doors did that degree open for you? How about an MBA?
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If you were a business major (bachelor's degree), what kind of doors did that degree open for you? How about an MBA?
Businesses.
Business majors are scum who suck up the earth with their evil claws.
I thought those were advertising majors.
No, buisness majors are the scum of the earth.
My friend Ryan is a Buisness Major. He broke up the band and moved to New Hampshire to wear a tie.
I think the dude that stands in my bathroom and wipes my ass when I'm done is a business major.
Not too sure, I never talk to the help.
My friend was a business major, he now runs a crappy niteclub and bangs all the young, hot waitresses.
So, find a job with perks .. because the pay won't be so great.
MBA's can give you the best, most cushy paying jobs in the world. The trick is either creating your own empire, or being able to work bureacracy in your favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by toxic
Be a history major.
That's where the big money is.
agreeance.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
BTW, when you get done with school, you might consider taking nightclasses to get a major in business. It can help you get promoted faster.
You are correct sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
You can get a manager job at Walgreens.
then you can hire psych majors to be cashires(bitterness)
The worst thing about buisness majors is when they are in a liberal arts class like Literature, Art History or even Film. They never know what the fuck they're talking about, don't appreciate it, and always. ALWAYS, call the professor stupid and ask "WHY WOULD I EVER NEED TO KNOW THIS!?!"
Unless you are willing to do sales or retail management, you need to move to a large market to find a job that doesn't suck. That or have alot of patients.
<--business major=call center supervisor :yuck:
Going back to school.
Wow, so that's why I always ask that. Mostly about natural sciences and poli sci, tho. Although if the internet intro to art class wasn't the easiest A in the history of academics, I'd feel the same way towards that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
What the hell do you even learn in Business School? How to cheat people out of their money?
I'm seriously wondering here.
Yes. I'm enrolled in "4340 Fleecing America" this next semester.
Any courses that teach you how to be like Enron? Those can come in handy.
That's an MBA-level course. :(
Unless you're coming out of a top level school for undergrad i think you need an MBA to get the good jobs. But if you're getting an MBA anyway, i think it's good to have an undergrad degree in another field to show what you can do. Like an undergrad math + MBA = high salary. Once i get a job i'm going to work on an MBA, then engineering Masters + MBA = redonculous salary and i will rule the world.
Depends on what you mean by good job. Manager or director? All you need is an undergrad. VP and up, almost guarantee you need an MBA.
By good job, i'm thinking $80k per year and up either to start or within a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
I may talk shit about buisness majors a lot, but there really is no getting around me being poor.
I don't think there's any undergrad degree you can get where you'll be paid $80k immediately out of school, except maybe the expensive places to live like Cali and NYC. That said, since you live in LA, you could probably come pretty close to $80k out of school with a biz degree, unless you got it from some 2 bit community college or something.
That's my point, you can't get a good job as a business major with only an undergrad unless you're coming out of harvard. You can get something decent, I'd guess a lucky person could get 45 or 50, but even then you'll be blocked from advancing quickly due to the people coming in with MBAs and jumping ahead of you. An MBA is what a bachelors was 30 years ago, an instant meal ticket and a huge advantage over everyone else. Same with any graduate degree (except english, they still won't make any money).Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
Someone with an MBA and no experience won't leapfrog anyone. If you get in at say, 60k with your undergrad and move up to say, 70k after a couple years, a guy with an MBA and no experience will come in that same year at 70k. The difference is the guy with the MBA will advance faster than you in the company.
what sort of engineering are you in/going into?Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
I'm a computer engineer, just got my masters. I talked with you about this before. It hurts me that you don't remember :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
lol, its even worse that I'm still technically a comp engineer. But you should know better than anyone that the minds of engineers are a bit "off."
Oh and speaking of being off, um ^_^ could someone remind what you call 2,4,6, and 8 year degrees?
associates,bachelors,masters,doctors/phds?
Us engineers have to stick together. :tu:
There are a lot of engineers and biz people at my school. One time this kid in engineering started telling me anything in the general liberal arts school is a fake major, and he had this huge superiority complex. I told him it's not a fucking trade school and that people study different things, but some people just have mentalities like that. But anyway, if you go business, get a good internship (helps if you're around a big city), and you should be good to go.
Hooray for having a father who works at a company in NYC and can get me internships as I go for a business degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
Well to be fair, his major is probably worlds harder than anything in the liberal arts school. I've seen Engineeres go back to school and literally sleep through stuff llike business and even medicine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
Btw, you want to hear a Engineering joke? What do you call an engineer that can't do math? A MD.
IIRC Zenigata goes to my school, so I can verify that his major is indeed fake. :p
That might be true, but it probably depends more on the person. I've known some engineers to struggle with required writing/etc. courses. On the same token, I doubt I'd enjoy calc III very much. It doesn't matter with that specific guy anyway though, he cheats his way by everything, he'll either fail his PE exam or simply be a bad engineer.
edit - Omni. Part A, true. Part B, false. (I don't have a major :P I have to declare one when we go back tho, or else they'll cancel my measly TAP award)
This is 75% of our engineers, sadly. Most of these kids won't be engineers when they leave school because they so obviously suck at it/don't care about it. Luckily for them, however, employers respect an engineering degree and it's fairly easy to get a job even if it's not specifically in engineering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
So what do you wanna do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
DING DING DING. An engineering degree will open up a lot of doors for you. Future engineers of the world represent!Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
Truth. But no hard feelings. Out of the three roommates I've had, the two engineers are some of my best pals, and the poli-sci guy is an ass. Freshman year I was tripled in Dickinson. Needless to say, tensions with poli-sci guy were extremely high by the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
Eh.. I dunno. I feel like it'll be hard to get a good paying job with Harpur stuff, even with grad school, so I may turn evil and double major with management.Quote:
So what do you wanna do?
LOL. Poor guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
Well "Harpur stuff" is pretty general, but you're probably right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
SOM is hard to get into, no?
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Originally Posted by Jetman
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Originally Posted by OmniGear
Yeah, "Harpur stuff" can mean the road to med school, or, in my case.. um. Asian studies/cinema/English/etc. I'm over 3.5 so I should be able to get into SOM okay. I'm not too into business but I don't want to be a waiter :cry: If I go that route and end up hating it maybe I'll try journalism in grad school.
Yeah, SOM will be a good idea. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
How does one cheat to be an Eng?
Copying other people's work, duh.
This isn't common in your school?
Heh, I know people who've gone to tests with note cards taped to their arms and bodies
I mean, I copy other people's HW or the solutions manual or whatever every now and then but I still try to make an effort to learn the material that I'm copying. Most people don't do this, though, and just blindly copy and don't wind up learning anything. These people will leave after 4-6 years with a 2.3 and not be able to tell you how a transistor works. Oh well.
This isn't a problem, my professors let us bring in sheets with notes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zenigata
Not really. But none of our teahcers take up the H.W. it is all test.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
I will admit that I do borderline cheat sometimes. I use the solutions guide in math to help do my H.W. if I get stuck and I put trig conversations and other little tidbits of info in my graphing calculator. But our math teahcers say its ok to use the soulations guide for H.W. so long as we learn how to do the work by test time. They even sell it in the college book store.
And putting trig stuff and the differences between seriies test in your calc is hardly cheating. In the end you still have to know how and when to do the work that uses the info you've stored. I'm not going to flunk a test because I can't remember sin^2 + cos^2 = 1 or the difference between P-Serioes test and the macloran test.
I do have one story about some kids cheating in our eng classes. In Physics 1 three guys stored every test question ever, with math, and final answers in their graphing calculators right before the final. The teacher knew they had done this with his amazing teacher mind powers. Right before he handed out the test papers, he took up their graphing calcs, and deleated the memory. One of the guys almosted puked.
i don't know why people major in such things then. They should just change to civil eng or something. I love that sort of stuff. I can't wait to get into it. I read about the differences between different tubes, transistors, etc, etc, for enjoyment.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
Well my engineering profs. let us bring in notes and shit, they don't expect us to have every equation memorized, that's just stupid.
My physics 1,2,and eng mechanics statics teacher put the eqs on the test. Calc 1,2,4 were all pencil and calc. Some of them were a serious bitch becuase calc 1 and 2 were 5 hour classes. You could have a ton of shit to remember for each test.
Good business majors, and really anyone who wants to get into a career field out of college, made contacts while they were still an undergrad and have a plan when they're handed their diploma.
The rest of them have a sheet of paper that entitles them to a garbage middle management office job for the rest of their life.
EDIT: Oh and to all my Social Science homies out there in the hood, join me in the glory that is government work. Let these other suckers battle it out like dogs in the private sector while we grow wealthy off their tax dollars by making demographic spreadsheets in Excel.
This would be bad for me, I'd probably never do the HW. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
That's not cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Yeah, I don't know either. Job security, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
:yuck:Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
no one ever does. That is why I had to retake calc 1 and 2. I was lazy and didn't do the H.W. I could always do it later, but you know, later never comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
This is true in any field. The days of companies heavily recruiting directly off of campus' is long gone. If you haven't set youreself up to succeed after you get your diploma, then you have alot of work ahead of you. That piece of paper isn't your ticket to a job, just a prerequisite. If you finish college, walk across the stage, and then ask yourself "now what?", then you are way behind. And if you can't interview, then learn, cause if you blow interviews your gonna have a hard time getting a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
And speaking of employment, I just got promoted to Director of Audio Services at U of MD. Woot!
I'm so goddamn screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mykozo
Good, now as director of audio services, it's your job to blaze with me before semester's end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mykozo
At least none of us are Sociology majors!
HA! Stupid hippies.
That's a different major.Quote:
Originally Posted by Videodrone
If I were, or if you were? If you're really looking for the latter, I'd say the only doors you're opening are ones you hold for people while hoping for tips.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Sadly, I graduated almost 6 years ago (B.S. Telecommunications) and didn't learn this lesson. This is something that I truly despise doing. THe list of things I hate worse than this are very short. There were other things that came into play, like the .com bubble bursting, my hospitalization, the economic downturn and outsourcing of IT, and the incompetent professors that taught the program (The director was fired just before I graduated). To add salt to the wound I didn't really learn anything. I know I wasn't destined to do this anyway. I'm now going for a certificate in a different field, BioMed. They're hiring everywhere, you don't need to press the flesh or network to get your job - getting in the door is as easy as working as a temp in manufacturing. I even know a guy that dropped out of college who's an engineer. In my classes, there's at least 2-3 displaced IT workers like myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mykozo
It may not be a question of getting a job, but if you think you're going to be able to earn yourself a career in anything without networking you're dead wrong. Not only wrong but doing yourself a great disservice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy Hits
Yeah, but they are least learning something. What are you learning? How to write better than me? Oooohh good job on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
let me know when your ability to share your opinions very well saves the world.