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http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0130/076.html
This is my favorite part:
Also in the article is a Microprocessor Report chart showing CPU Gigaflops. The Cell in PS3 will do 230. The 360's will do 77. Granted, this is not a measure of GPU, RAM, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forbes
Haven't we gotten over waving our respective console's dicks around?
I can't wait to play gigaflops 230!
Apparently not. Console fanboism will never die!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/son...nts-148088.phpQuote:
We dont have a controller, there is no network code and there is no box. Its still the size of a normal PC.The poly counts are not really any higher, im not seeing sub surface scattering, im not seeing much HDR lighting. (or they are faking it), I’m not seeing next gen fluid dynamics or object dynamics. When is it coming out? No one knows.
Wow, this sounds familiar.Quote:
Scientists at Stanford University are building a Cell-based supercomputer. Toshiba plans to use the superchip in TV sets, which one day could let fans watch a football game from multiple camera angles they control. Raytheon is set to use Cell in missile systems, artillery shells and radar.
HAHA YES!! MISSILE SYSTEMS ARE GO!!
fucking sony, I swear
I bet it's Iran this time, now that Saddam is locked up.
Latest rumors going around are saying that the PS3 isn't close to being done. Spring 07 for the US.
MEGATON!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Why not? Thats when MGS4 will be out. LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I'd go so far to say it's OMEGATON!Quote:
Originally Posted by Critical Overdrive
A lot of casual gamers would be happy if they can continue playing the latest games on their PS2 for another full year, but Sony needs to get the PS3 into the market before this year's holiday season if they want to maintain their marketshare.
There's no point in them giving MS a second unchallenged xmas rush.
More development on quantum physics and holographic drives please.Real movies are 24.97 frames a second you godless heathens.Quote:
movie-quality 30 frames per second
It would be nice to see Sony fall this generation (but it probably won't happen).
Bring on the new Technology...
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Originally Posted by kedawa
I personally would have zero problem with not having PS3 until 07. I think if they waited until then demand would be monkey spunk crazy.
Considering Sony's current financial situation, they're going to need something out soon that'll bring in money.
People always say stuff like this, but I have yet to ever hear anything pointing to sony actually losing money, or floundering around in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
That's not a flame, by the way. if you have a link showing sony in some kind of financial trouble, I'd really like to see it.
60 minutes or one of those news magazine show did an indepth interview on Sony's CEO Howard Stringer last week because he is the first foreign Sony CEO and his task is to bring Sony back from the red (I believe Games wrote that Sony lost 90 million dollars last fiscal year). Howard Stringer even admitted that Sony got lazy (to paraphase) and allowed their competitors to market/sell more products than them (i.e. Ipod and Itunes, Samsung's HDTVs, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by Contra
But the Playstation brand is still a strong one, assuming they don't fuck it up.
According to Sony, they've shipped 4,000 developer kits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
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Originally Posted by Spong
Cell is so cool, I read an article about it in IEEE, cause I'm a nerd like that.
It has nine cores and all of them are used to fuck with your mind!
Show me some games or shut up.
At this point in time I fucking hope so!Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Doesn't mean much, odds are those kits are far from complete. It always takes many versions over many months to get the final kits and then a year or two after that to make that shit really hum.
I can see another PS2 launch approach happening and by then the 360 titles will be well into their 2nd generation, easily standing up to whatever titles ps3 has. Graphically at least. Who knows, Fantavision 2 might end up putting Geometry Wars to shame.
KELLY CLARKSON!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
Why are Doctor Octopus's eyes so glassy?
This one is Pirates of the Caribbean.
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/ar...1063643212.jpg
Weed + visine. Maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=playstation+3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=playstation+3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=Playstation+3
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=playstation+3
Bleh!
I said GAMES not tech demos.
But they're so pretty!
Bah!
When I'm holding one those stupid boomerangs in hand and playing something of comparable visual quality (that doesn't suck), then I'll be impressed.
Gigaflops don't make good games.
Anyway, the second video is "supposedly" a trailer of Gran Turismo.
In related news, I was at ibm in austin today and saw the lab where they play around with the 360 dev boards. Most of them were water cooled. Had lunch with some of the engineers who worked on the proc as well. Didn't get to see the cell stuff since it's a different group, but I saw that demo the article talks about at a talk last month. Procs are sweet.
*jealous*
They keep the Cell stuff guarded away I see. Rightly so!
How'd you get to meet them?
This one's an oldie but a goodie.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=playstation+3
Job interview. They had trays full of 360 chips laying around too. IBM gave everyone on the team a free 360. All during lunch the 3 guys i was with were talking about call of duty and need for speed. None of them were gamers before they got thier 360s, or at least not recently. Oh, and the dev boards have the same huge power brick as the normal system.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
We talked a little about security, they don't think anyone will crack it before the next generation comes out. I asked if they could do it and they said MS makes sure no one person/group knows enough to crack the whole thing.
The cell stuff wasn't gaurded per se, it just wasn't thier group. I think it was in a different building or maybe just a different floor.
Good luck, hope it went well.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Well they have alot to learn from.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Did they mention how many people worked on the chip?
Tons. They said it was the biggest project they've worked on, and it involved teams from all over the place, not just Austin. I don't remember any numbers specifically though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
I asked them about the power difference from cell. We didn't talk that long about it, but they said it'd beat cell in integer performance and obviously cell crushes it in floating point. They also talked about how challenging the programming model will be for cell and wondered how they'd take advantage of the FP performance. So they didn't really say anything new, that's all pretty standard stuff. It didn't seem to me that they felt inferior to cell in any way though, if that means anything.
The main thing they emphasize was that they had a really tight schedual, and that this project was done fast considering what they had to deliver. They were really proud of that (and trash talked intel :lol: ).
There's no way PS3 is coming out this year. We're on the verge of the next wave of 360 shipments, if PS3 was coming in 2006 Sony would be announcing it hot and heavy. I think they planned on Xbox360 tanking (which could still happen) and PSP taking the world by storm. Sony has gotten really arrogant and lazy, they're where Nintendo was ten years ago.
I can't see the ps3 coming out in 07. If MS puts out enough 360s and no ps3 for another year (tho the hype for the system will be there and i'll probably get one day of) I think they marketshare would be big time in MS favor and sony probably would have to do alot of fighting.
And for that to happen the games would have to look 10 times better than the 360 games will look at the time of launch.
That's how I feel about the 360.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/...8050723589.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen001.jpg
One is ps3 and one is Xbox360, both are games coming out. What the hell are you guys arguing over? And can you see the difference?
We're arguing over the architectural beauty of each chip so get your stupid screenshots out of here.
Now that you mention it, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daitokuji
I rather not add to this but what the hell.. I think both of these shots are pre-rendered. Reminds me of the Mission Impossible screens for N64 before it actually came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daitokuji
I could have sworn i was repling off of someone wanting to see the games...Quote:
Originally Posted by OmniGear
You were, and I was kidding, so we're cool.
Is the graphical leap between the PS3 and 360 really going to be that much difference than the leap between the PS2 and XBox? I dont believe it will be. Its all about the features and I cant wait to find out what the PS3 is going to do. PSP does some cool stuff so I cant imagine PS3 will be feature less.
Revolution will do 248 Gigaflops. Which is not say it will be more powerful than PS3 or 360.
The rumor is that we will be waiting a long time for PS3, and that it will be in short supply when it gets here.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=2057&Itemid=2
Who knows how much truth there is to that though...
If Sony ships 1 million domestic units, that will be 3x what Microsoft managed at launch, and (I believe) nearly twice what they had for PS2. It also isn't really far off - those are the rough dates everyone's been throwing around for PS3 since last summer.
But, it may still leave them in a 5-6 million unit hole in North America compared to MS by the end of 2006. Nintendo may reap the rewards most - their system should be far easier to get onto shelves.
You honestly think that MS is going to sell 5-6 million units in North America with the shadow of the PS3 over them? If the PS3 meets expectations at E3, a large percentage of people are going to wait. MS really, really blew it by not launching only in NA in 2005 in order to have enough units available.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
If MS had enough units available then I think the ps3 would have more tough time then they are going to have.
I totally agree. I'm a perfect example. I simply do not have the self control to have not bought a 360 before Christmas had I seen one sitting on a shelf. However, I didn't, and now my eyes have shifted to the PS3 and any forth-coming announcements. I can't be the only person in this situation, and I have the means to buy both. Someone who has to choose may now be lost to MS all-together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daitokuji
Sure. They can do 1-200 000 a month easy if they get them on shelves, which should have them at 2 million by October. (I'd even say that's a conservative estimate). 3 million over Christmas with a price drop, good looking software and no PS3s anywhere is doable. PSP moved nearly that many in 9 months, and the demand isn't as high for that, IMO. Doesn't matter if the games don't rock the world, Microsoft unlimited marketing budget FTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
They have sold 600,000 so far. 200,000 per month for February through October puts them at 2.4M. 2.4 != 5-6. There is zero chance Sony is going to be in a hole bigger than 3M. They'll erase at least half of that by year-end and the rest in 2007 easily.
They'll crush the 60k (Xbox 360) in Japan with pre-orders. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
In the first hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet