I never watch MSNBC, but I'll start now.
... and Yoshi's the first one in this thread.
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I never watch MSNBC, but I'll start now.
... and Yoshi's the first one in this thread.
This news rivalry shit is really getting old. I guess after 5 years of having control of nothing, the liberals need to feel empowered, and the media is their only opportunity. You know what's great about that 5 year number? It means they can't even lose another election for another 3.
"Bill made a funny. Geeheeeeeeee!"
owned.. lol..
Sir you are fucking correct. I got no problem with having your bias, but this shit is getting old. Jon Stewart does it so much now he is no longer funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
This news rivalry goes beyond liberal and conservative (even though all the 'evidence' of the liberal media is entirely overblown nonsense, just look at the PBS debacle) and has more to do with Bill O'Reilly being a shitbag and other newscasters being idiots. This guy didn't really challenge Bill on the outright lies and blatant hypocrisies he's toting around, instead he played the same game as Bill and went for the cheapshots while still maintaining that 'above the fray' attitude about himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Also, Yoshi, the war's over. You and both know the Republicans are fucked. Even if the Democrats are braindead children, they're still going to sweep the Senate.
No Jon Stewart is hilarious, and Stephen Colbert is currently hosting on the funniest show on TV. Recognize.Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...bert_eagle.jpg
CAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
Eagle of Freedom. FTW.
The Colbert Report doesn't quite click for me. I'm not sure what it is yet, maybe just the fact that Jon Stewart is funnier, and his show flows better imo.
What? No.
I'm going to have to say that Daily Show is better than Colbert Report. Of course, it's been a few months since I've seen either, what with being cable-less at the moment (it's not a service I care about much, honestly). When the magic of tv re-enters my life I'm definitely planning on giving it another go.
Oh, and John Stewart is one of the funniest things tv has ever graced us with.
James
he used to be, but recently i think he has gotten way too into turning the show into a platform to spout off his opinions. he has democrats on his show to give them a free speaking pulpit and he basicly feeds them slams thruout the entire bit. political humor is funny but dont turn it into a fucking dnc ad.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It's obvious which way he leans, but I've seen him slam the democrats plenty too - the episode where he showed all the insane things democrats were saying on MLK day was hilarious. Ray Nagin's insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
If anything he seems like a libertarian to me.
Wow, it's almost like the Daily Show, except not funny at all!
Colbert is worlds funnier than Stewart. I can't stand Stewarts delivery and the same 4 stupid faces he makes.
I actually watch O'Reilly sometimes and I think he's a riot. I swear he's not a "news magazine" but is actually running a comedy show. Some of the shit he says is so absurd it's impossible not to laugh.
I agree. But overblown? How about imaginary? Anything less than a military dictatorship is considered "liberal" to some of our elected officials and their media cheerleaders so OF COURSE "normal" media will be more liberal than these nutjobs would like.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
And we all know you can't run a good FUD campaign without a mortal enemy. Terrorism, Drugs, Liberal Media, Social Progress - all wars that will never be won but sure are fun fighting! Go Neo-cons! Onward to victory!
Colbert report is infinately funnier than the Daily Show. The Daily Show is just a giant unfunny anti-Bush ad at this point, at least the Colbert report is witty and funny and raises good points sometimes. Bald eagle diving claws first for the win.
Wrong. Listen to the interview on the Daily Show at least, Stewart will often say things more insightful and interesting than you'll ever hear on any talking head show. Its hardly an anti-Bush ad exclusively, both parties get there due, and its hardly unfunny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
As for the thing about "liberal media", I officially called it bullshit last night. I was watching the post-SOTU coverage on ABC and they were eating up Bush's talking points with a spoon - saying shit like, "do you expect the Democrats to take the olive branch of unity Bush extended tonight", and "Bush emphasized the importance of diplomacy in dealing with Iran", when we all damned well know Bush is the biggest partisan in the White House in decades and it was but four years ago when Bush was calling Iran straight-up Evil. None of this was brought up. Im not saying news organs are blatantly Republican but they certainly aren't a "fourth pillar" nowadays.
Complete truth. It's also very sad that what Jonny boy says is so much better than a typical news show, though. As he said, he's on a comedy show. So sads.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffx
The Greenspan bit was incredible, too, I must say.
diffx is right. I was watching Jon's comment on the state of the union and the rebuttal.He flamed both pretty well, but the audience only seemed to really give a fuck when he was flaming Bush.
I take back what i said. Jon isn't to deep in his bias(yet) it's his fucking audience.
[Dumb rant]Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar
I was thinking about politics on the way home tonight. There are good and bad conservatives. There are also good and bad liberals. Maybe it's because I live in a left-leaning metropolis in a left-leaning country, but I never, ever hear the bad liberal stereotypes made fun of. Yet, I see 'em all the time.
My philosophy on politics is this: if you don't know what you're talking about, shut up. I don't care if you're a liberal or conservative, if you you can't back up your argument with facts, get out of my face.
I mean, each side has it's quirks. Bad conservatives refuse to understand anything different them. Bad liberals don't understand that it costs money to fund the social services they ask for.
(Aside: And, this one thing got me annoyed: Conservatives want lower taxes but understand that this means less social services. That doesn't matter to them because, right or wrong, they want less goverment intrusion. Liberals want more social spending, lower tuition, AND a freeze on taxes. They want more for less! This isn't Walmart. This is the real world. Things cost money.)
(NB:You could call me slightly left of centre. And I don't hate liberals or conversatives. I just noticed something.)
I've had so many liberals come up to me and just bait me into stupid debates about politics.
"George Bush is evil." No, he's not evil. He's just socially conservative. That why we call him a conservative.
"Stephen Harper will ruin our country." Stephen Harper just won a minority government, meaning he has to adopt some Liberal or Bloc policies to keep his government alive.
MSN name: "Stephen wins and Hamas wins. Coincidence, I think not!" ...
The thing is, nobody ever talks about this. Conservatives can be insensitive, crass and aggresively assholish about anything and everything that they don't believe in or understand. But so do liberals.
I don't know why, but thinking about this made me so angry.
[/Dumb rant]
Keep in mind, I'm talking about the worst of the worst.
In all fairness, there's more to it than that. There are social conservatievs who I think are fine people even if I disagree with their views and politics, but then there's Bush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Or, just so nobody accuses me of being partisan or whatever, Hillary.