I think this is a bold new direction for the Robobo franchise.
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I think this is a bold new direction for the Robobo franchise.
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lol.
A+
This thread deserves more exposure than artist's block.
Oh shit, it's...incredible. Panel six fulfills me. I don't normally much care for your style, but it fits this scene perfectly. I lol'd, more than once.
I was actually thinking of doing something like this earlier, but I figured people would mock me for wasting my time. Now it's obvious how wrong they were (or would have been). Can this be thread for all Robobo-related fan fic?
edit: I just noticed the dots in the blue. zomg
So... now you guys are going to have a special thread to make fun of us?
If you are honestly just doing it for fun, then fine by me. Have your fun but if this turns into a bash fest where you come just to mock and rape our hard work then please stop.
This is beautiful.
It's easy to take someone elses work and berate it in a fit of jealousy instead of creating and realizing your own world, to put it out there only to realize that fifty people on a message board are really the only ones who find it interesting or worthwhile and the best you could hope for.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
At the same time I enjoy this comic, and will post it on Robobo as an official fan fic. If you do one I'll also put it up. If it's any good that is.
He could just be making fun. You know, without the jealousy or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Oh whatever, Kaneda's comic barely has anything to do with the actual Robobo characters, nor was it in any way "berating" what you guys have done. He took the idea from your slogan "He's not a jerk...he just doesn't know better" and went way into left field with it. The dot noise in the blue was just an in-joke for the TNL'ers who've gone through all the drama in the Robobo thread. Sure it's something of a pointless effort, but those that are in the know, it's great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Remember Rama's great batman/robin comic? Would you say the same thing? Should he not be so jealous and uncreative and create his own comic character? Obviously, no, that would defeat the point of the gag.
Well, there goes my sass-o-meter.Quote:
If you do one I'll also put it up. If it's any good that is.
Nah, I like Kaneda's. Plus, you two are sounding way too bitter about it. Personally, I'd be flattered someone bothered making something based of what I've created. That's why it's fan-fic, and not cynic-fic.
It's up. I put it up.
I could be wrong and perhaps he just has a lot of spare time on his hands to be harrassing people through comical strips. Whichever one it is fine by me. I am appreciative of his continued support.Quote:
Originally Posted by reso
Whether he's trying to spit in our face or make light of the situation is irrelevant to me. As I said, creating spoofs of other peoples comics is a lot easier than venturing out on your own under fire of scrutiny and hate, which is a fact even if it is irrelevant to the situation at hand (I'm not even going to point out his other comics which received less than stellar responses from TNL).Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
I actually think Kaneda's comic is pretty good and that's why I put it up. Even if he made a comic that made fun of us, I'd still put it up if it was funny. I don't take this that seriously.
Quite frankly I think Kaneda and you should make your own comics.
I don't believe I've ever seen fan fiction analyzed by the original creator so objectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
"It's like receiving a bad sweater from your grandparents! You're appreciative of the gesture more than the work (I don't really get the comic).." is embarassing. It's like you're putting it on the webpage to prove something, but you're still coming off as offended or even confused.
FuryFox is right though, just like a Batman spoof, this has less to do with what you think of the character itself and more to do with just being a funny take on a property you think you already know.
I'm not Jonas.
I've been thinking about it. I have some fantasy ideas that are a bit distanced from the more typical PA-style gag strips. I'm more intimidated by the website construction, whatever's needed to update a site efficiently, and managing all the bandwidth concerns (and then eventually advertising). I think having a partner would definitely help some things, especially if they were proficient in areas I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
I respect Robobo for updating frequently and from it seems, functioning like it should. Especially since you both probably have other obligations.
Randomly: http://www.qwantz.com/ I'm sure most have seen this, and I don't know how much money he makes from it, but the bastard's a genius. AFAIK, he's never deviated from the one image, and yet I'm still entertained almost every strip, even if it's not lol funny.
Just saying. I was replying to your link, not anything you posted.
edit: qwantz.com is good stuff.
Also, as I've gone a really long time without using any smilies in a post and it might be hard to tell because of that, I should just say that I don't hate Robobo or anything. I just think you guys (mostly Jonas) should try to chill out.
lol @ jealousyQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Seriously, jealous of what, anyone and everyone can and has a web comic up. Robobo is boring and needs a shot in the arm. My comic is hardly ripping off your "world", which seems more to me like Futurama with a less threatening Bender and without the other interesting characters or environments. Rezo I admire a lot for putting so much into getting his work out there and putting lots of thought into the content, which is rare for web comics.
lol yea yours is a courage found only in the greatest of men. I'm really not trying to piss you guys off, I was just poking a little fun at your style of humor.Quote:
As I said, creating spoofs of other peoples comics is a lot easier than venturing out on your own under fire of scrutiny and hate.
Thanks for putting it on your website btw. Since you guys are constantly getting hammered by legions of anxious readers, please let me know if you get any responses on my comic or maybe post my email (holmavj@cc.wwu.edu) so that Robobo faithfuls can berate me with all the things I got wrong.
No, putting a webcomic up is a lot of work, and getting and then retaining readers is even harder. You'll have to put up a website, and maintain it. If you don't know any web programming updating the website might be a lot of grunt work. Not only that you may find out that there isn't much of a market for your art style or humor and nobody comes back after awhile, anyway. The risk that your artwork and creative entity become failures. I'm not talking to the 10 people on TNL who read Galleria, I'm talking about it never even finding an audience in a field of about 50 million people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneda
Not to mention that you have to have a schedule you keep to, which means every Monday night and Thursday night you're working on your concepts and comic instead of spending time with friends (unless they're with you doing shit while you work) or working on more frugal projects (I'm starting up my own press soon and put it on hold while I work out these comics with jonas). Missing comics is like telling your audience to fuck off because you take them for granted (Butternutsquash is a good example of this. They worked on their print book, a piece of merchandise, for over three months forgetting about their audience and expected them to keep up with their faithful viewing. Obviously their comic has lost a good chunk of viewers because of it, which means their book sales are probably not too hot) and trying to push merchandise and ask for donations is overtly telling your audience you're bandwagon phonies trying to make some quick cash off of them instead of being there to simply mildly entertain them through crude drawings.
People say there're two types of webcomics. Those who want to be a big PA, PVP or CAD style comic and live off of their work and those who just want to have fun doing the work but really there is only one style of comic. People who want to be like PA, PVP and CAD while enjoying their work. People want their work to reach people enmass, and having enough of an audience to produce money is hard, but also a measure of success. Being a quality comic nobody cares about doesn't sound like a lot of fun to anybody.
Anyway, thats what the big deal is about web comics. The people who draw stick figures and brand it as creative license aren't going to go very far and there's a lot more to webcomics than random wackiness or cursing a lot and the game changes a hell of a lot when you're putting yourself out there a minimum of one or two days a week (or more).
I don't think you're jealous, but sometimes I feel like you're giving us some resentment because we've been able to muster any kind of substancial audience.
It's not courage it's motivation.
It isn't though. Usually. Or, at least, it shouldn't be. The amount of work really depends on what you're doing but most comics online can be made pretty quickly and I would imagine they are. Mine included. And most of the ones that must take a decent amount of time are put up at slower rates than the others. It is constant work though. So for when you're really busy you might need to find some time to work on it. But I think that goes with maintaining any kind of ...anything... for a period of time and its not really hard to do a little work often.Quote:
No, putting a webcomic up is a lot of work
Usually they are eventually cared about by a fair amount of people but not enough to earn a living! They get to see that their work is appreciated by neat people + not a lot of money! It is middleground.Quote:
Being a quality comic nobody cares about doesn't sound like a lot of fun to anybody.
Stick figure comic. I don't know what the stats are, but stick figures have as much of a shot at building an audience as anything in the crazy world of internet comics.
It is though. Site maintenance, design and sitting down bi-weekly EVERY WEEK to think up new concept and draw them out without repeating yourself or ripping off another person who had the same idea is more work, especially if you're going to do it about something. Starting up a comic means you don't get a creative break. You can't put the down the sketchpad for long before having to pick it back up again (again, if you're committed). Obviously whenever you start your webcomic you're going to have other things going.Quote:
Originally Posted by rezo
The middleground is where a comic doesn't want to be. There are business rules that apply here to help people caught in a middle ground, but while you're in the middle ground chances are your server costs are costing you more than money than you are putting in to the thing, which means not only is the comic not making you money, a potentially major expense is starting to come out of your savings to keep the thing going.Quote:
Usually they are eventually cared about by a fair amount of people but not enough to earn a living! They get to see that their work is appreciated by neat people + not a lot of money! It is middleground.
Pixel comics and stick figure comics have a steeper hill to climb.Quote:
Stick figure comic. I don't know what the stats are, but stick figures have as much of a shot at building an audience as anything in the crazy world of internet comics.
You're definitely right about the difficulties of maintaining a web site. I don't know a damn thing about computers (as evidenced by my incredible word balloons) and it's basically what is stopping me from making that commitment. I do admire how prolific and punctual you guys are, it's a lot more effort that one would think. If I found someone that knows how to run a site and would help me maintain one, providing content wouldn't be a problem. If ever you guys are sweating deadlines and you need a last-minute substitute, I would gladly explore more of Robobo's untapped potential in future strips.
I feel like a bit of a prick since you guys wrote such kind things on your site about my comic. It's much appreciated, I feel inspired to be more productive now.
If it means anything, I made my first site after spending a few hours reading an html tutorial. Not a pinnacle of web design by any means, and I still have little idea of what I'm doing when it comes to that sort of thing, but it did the job. There are also free services like Drunk Duck that handle most of the management for you so you can just make the comics and upload the pictures.
The qualludes Jimmy, you promised me qualludes.
I'll probably get you and Fury and rezo to help me out with Christmas Land. I want it to have more of a graphic feel to it so I'll post it up for tips and shit like that when I'm closer to the first stage. I'm planning on having a page turning script integrated in to the story so you'll physically be able to turn the pages as you read it (with your cursor) to give it a real book feel.
The only problem with free services is that they are usually not that flexible to what you want to do. Like... there's always something simple that you want to do differently that their script can't accomodate. Jonas was thinking about selling himself as a custom database and comic strip updater since he's really quite good at creating unique databases integrated with php (he did it for bolt 3 and built robobo from scratch).Quote:
Originally Posted by rezo
Also I would recommend Kaneda use a horizontal scroll bar for comics like the Qualludes Robobo one he did. It seems to lend itself better than the typical verticle scroll all websites have.
I want to see Aurora's Robobo comic.
You're right about the free services not being flexible, but that just reminded me of Webcomics Nation. It's a not free service that offers a lot of tools made for running a webcomic + the freedom to do whatever you want with it. It may be something to check out.Maybe.
I think you're all forgetting that real joke of this thread is that the art in Kaneda's one comic far surpasses anything Robobo has ever done with characters, colors, or story. Really, it doesn't matter how good they are about updating their site on time and what have you, it doesn't matter that they have motivation coming out the wazoo. The end product is still 3rd grade art class level amatuerish garbage. No one should reward a bad product merely because of the conviction of its creators.
Irrelevant: The g0zen Story.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Leave this kinda garbage to the other topic man. Can't you see that this topic is actually off to a decent start?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I find it funny that somehow I managed to update our website even though I was out with my girlfriend all evening. lol.
I was being hard up in my first post of this topic because we do work really hard on our website and I think we are progressing greatly. A lot of people do 'get' our style of humour and do enjoy and return to our comic. That's what makes it all worth it. We don't have a huge audience yet. In fact each comic nets about 800 viewers until the next comic is up and running. So that's not bad for us right now and considering we only advertised that once.
Our website was programmed by myself. PHP based, I have scripts to update/reply and check traffic stats on all the comics. So I can see which comics are more popular (mostly our gaming ones... and the ones that elude to homosexuals ha). The archive was actually quite easy to code since it's just one page pulling in the information for each ID number (each comic has an ID)
If you guys honestly want to play around with Robobo, here's an idea. Take a comic of ours from the archive, download it, use some image program to white out the bubbles and place in your own text. I will make a feature section that has 'Create Your Own Adventure - Robobo Style' and I will place all the ones I see in this topic in there. If you want to do a completely unique fanfic - go ahead but maybe it's easier for those who don't want to do too much work to download a comic - white it out and replace the dialogue.
406 people saw your fan fiction Kaneda. I had one person I know MSN me and ask WTF was going on in it.
haha. I've arrived.
654 now.
IBTN. [(Generic "Irreverant" Webcomic + Bender) - (Funny + Insight + Quality)]*(Pure Shit) = RoboboQuote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Robobo has none of Bender's defining characteristics and has his own that make him unique as a character. The fact is, as mentioned, you and g0zen haven't really ever contributed anything to Galleria in the least, so your opinions on the matters of Galleria are but a singular rain drop in a vast ocean roaring with waves, insignificant.
I'm sure there's a cute little mathematical equation to help define this point further but that's your thing.
This means something. This is important.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
I talk in art. That's all there is to that.
It probably should be here. Shit.
Attaching images saves the future.
I miss doing Robobo. That shit was fun.
you should attach the comics to TNL in an album. The things that made fun of it too.
I have them on my old mac somewhere. And Joystick Adventures. The act of creating them was funner than anything.
I looked all over my hard drive and was unable to find this. Who knew boomspeed wouldn't last forever.
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Originally Posted by Kaneda
Holy shit, it's Kaneda and Tracer.
I don't think I have the ones you did Kaneda, but I still have the ones I made:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1250135347
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1250135347
I think I have the other one on my old computer. I'll try to remember to dig it up.
Goddamn it, Kaneda! Why didn't you attach this shit?
KKKAAAANNEEEEDDDDAAAaaaaa!!!!!!!