Namco is bringing Tekken to PSP. According to this article, more details are due next week.
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Namco is bringing Tekken to PSP. According to this article, more details are due next week.
I remember hearing this was Tekken Force, to which I say bleh. I gave up on the series after like three lame-o sequels in a row, but I've heard 5 was good from people whose opinions I respect. So if this is a port of 5, or built on it, I may give it a chance.
So, not counting 5, you're saying 4, Tag, and 3 were all trash? 4 I can understand, but I'm not sure what you'd be bashing Tag and 3 for.
In any case, 5 was awesome (except the sidegame). A port seems pointless though, but if it's a quality original title, people will complain it's not on better hardware...
You got it. Delayed response time & canned dial-a-combos suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
They could port Tag and I'd be fine. In fact, I'd encourage it.
Also, Tekken 4 is trash, yeah, but if you didn't like TTT and 3, I'd hesitate to say that you even like Tekken at all.
This just might be a day one purchase for me, depending on what the game is exactly, but Tekken 5 was fantastic.
I've never noticed or heard anyone complain about response time in Tekken games. I've heard people say that in regards to a 2D/3D comparison, because 2D games are "faster" but it's still nonsense AFAIK.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
What's a dial-a-combo? Where you can link moves fluidly with a series of buttons? Like those found in Darkstalkers, Versus games, Street Fighter Alpha, Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, Guilty Gear, and Soul Calibur?
I guess you can still play SSF2:T and SF3:TS.
Didn't all the Tekken games have 10 hit "dial" combos?
I have. I remember when Soul Calibur was the major 3D fighting game and one day someone wanted to play me in Tekken 3. My hands started hurting after a while since I was mashing on the buttons so hard because it felt like the game wasn't responding. It was ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
On the bright side, it might not be so bad anymore since we're getting used to having lag in online fighting games, right?
More like 10-hit strings...not all them would actually "combo" the whole way through. They were practically useless at high level play, only good for killing noobs with relative flashiness.
Well, I lol at that I guess. I played more Tekken 3 at a competitive level than other game in the series, and everyone I played loved 2D fighters as well. No one seemed to have trouble doing anything, even things that require split-second timing like reversals, low parries, and throw breaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Tekken always feels like I'm playing on a split second delay. VF, Soul Calibur and DOA don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
I like how you named a bunch of series with radically different combo systems. Great argument! :tu: :tu:Quote:
What's a dial-a-combo? Where you can link moves fluidly with a series of buttons? Like those found in Darkstalkers, Versus games, Street Fighter Alpha, Virtua Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Dead or Alive, Guilty Gear, and Soul Calibur?
I guess you can still play SSF2:T and SF3:TS.
There's nothing fundamentally different in the way those games "dial" combos than the way Tekken does it. The other 3D fighters play almost identically (although "chaining" in GG, DS, or Alpha is the exact same thing, just with other systems involved like special canceling and jumping).Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I assumed you weren't referring to the 10-hit strings, since it has little to no bearing on actual gameplay mechanics.
There's plenty to criticize Tekken for, but "dial-a-combos" just sounds ignorant.
So, you admit to being a button masher, and you want us to take your opinion on fighting games seriously? Did you think you'd do more damage if you hit the buttons harder or something? There aren't any analog buttons on the arcade cabinets.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Which in that game is more prediction then reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
I didn't say I couldn't pull anything off, I said it felt slow. Difference.lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Korly
I enjoyed all of the Tekkens, but yes 5 is the best.
Also, 3S had 'dial-a-combos' too. Target combos, anybody? And there really isn't a big difference between any of those combo systems in the games he mentioned, as they all involve types of chains combos.
Seriously, it's really a damned shame when people who know jack shit about fighting games on a technical level try to pop off at the grill.
I still need to play 5, but I loved every previous Tekken game. Even 4, which was hated by many, was enjoyable to me. I loved that they actually made some drastic changes to the gameplay. Did they all work? Nah, but they didn't prevent me from enjoying it.
I really can't see why people play Tekken whenever Virtua Fighter EVO is out there. I don't mean casuals, either. I mean people that are really into fighters. VF4 is so much better than Tekken 5 on so many levels. I bought Tekken 5 when it first came out and devoted some time to it, but got pissed because the engine STILL isn't as tight as it should be. It still feels like the fights are under the sea. Don't get me started on Steve Fox, either.
VF 4 Evo and the Tekkens co-exist to me. They each provide a different kind of fighting game experience. If I'm in the mood for VF's style, I'll play a VF. Likewise, if I feel like a Tekken-style fight, I'll go with that. They're both on nearly even footing for me, although I'd put VF above Tekken since it was the first, and evolved faster. I feel that each series compliments the other.
I am not a fan of the Tekken series, but the short time I played 5, it was pretty nice. I am not sure if the PSP controls are up to the challenge of a 3D fighter though.
I don't know why everyone hates the PSP's controls so much. Are you talking about the d-pad or the buttons? If it's the d-pad you mean, is it because of Darkstalkers? I own 3 PSP games where responsive control is important, those being Wipeout, MMX, and GGXX#R. Never had an input problem with any of them. I think Tekken would be fine in that regard, but considering it'd be much harder to use all of your fingers on the buttons, at least much harder than it would be on a PS2 pad, it'd be a bit more difficult to do a lot of moves.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Tekken 5 was the best Tekken, and I like Tekken Tag, so I'd be happy with either a port of Dark Resurrection or a new entry to Tekken Tag. I think Tekken is a kind of game that would actually work very well on the PSP, too.
If it's another Ridge Racers-like compilation or a port of the original TTT, however, that would suck.
Finding people to play Tekken 5 is infinitely easier than finding people to play VF4. That's what it really comes down to. Even if I wanted to play VF, the playerbase for that game makes it nearly impossible (that and they're all nuts... but that's another subject :x ).Quote:
Originally Posted by Changeling
If the only consumer version of T5:DR is on the goddamn PSP, that would make me the sad panda. Really -- 5.0 is stupid once people start picking Steve and Nina (unless you too pick one of those two characters), and no one plays 5.1 because there is nowhere to play it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
-Dippy
It's about damn time this got announced. The main reason I got a psp over a ds was because I knew if they were going to port over a true portable 3d tekken it would be for the psp.
I haven't been in the states in a while and this is like the only website having anything to do with videogames I can go to, so could someone give me a little update on DR, the last thing I heard was that Armor King was in, and Kuni was a rumor.
Dark Resurrection + Kuni FTW! Lately it's just been TTT and the offshoot I created in soulcalibur III, but to have her back and completely seperate from Yoshi would be the best I could ask for.
Btw, it seems pretty stupid to say dial-a-combo and leave no mention of "Mortal Kombat" anyplace. What's with you guys? :wtf:
Because for those of us with evolved frontal lobes, it's not a question of either/or. Many of us play both. The fact is, Tekken is just far more accessible, and more enjoyable at *all* levels. VF4 Evo really opens up the most at its deepest, where many people aren't willing to do that much homework to gain that reward, and even then, most of us prefer games over simulations. Virtua Fighter could benefit a great deal from having more charismatic characters, more variety of characters, and a more reward, aesthetically appealing combo system/movesets. To me, VF didn't show its true promise in that arena, until Goh, the Shaolin Monk, and Vanessa came around, who were just so greatly stand-out from the rest of the crowd. Not to take anything away from the staples, as many of them, like Wolf and Sarah really opened up in 4 and Evo too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Changeling
The fighting in the game is solid, but the fighting in Tekken is solid as well. The gravity is also fine in both games. Tekken has things it needs to work on too, as it borrows liberally from VF every year, but it doesn't have the majority vote because 'people are stupid' or 'it's overrated.' I've always found that people who say overrated, or imply it, generally just mean, 'People like this and I don't and my opinion should be more valid to everyone than theirs.'
Pretty much, if you want to make it a VS thing, which it isn't, since in the fighting community, both games can easily coexist, then Tekken must have won, since nobody touches VF in large numbers.
But I'd like you to see what I'm doing here, I'm giving both games credit, as they both deserve them, but I'm also saying that Tekken is my preference in the end. I don't have to disrespect VF Evo to get my point across. It's not a worse game, just for me, and the majority of people, when it comes to pros and cons, it seems that Tekken has quite a bit more to offer to the average gamer than VFEvo does.
It's Dark Resurrection.
http://inslag.com/~files/tekkenlogo.jpg
Excellent.
Any possiblity of this game being playable online? That might be what breaks me down to get a PSP.
Otherwise, meh.
99% of people that I've talked to who say that Tekken sucks have no idea how to play the game, even though they assure me "I've played tons of Tekken, been playing since the first game, and nobody can beat me!".
Which pretty much translates to them flailing on the buttons wildly, or maybe knowing a couple of 10 hit combos (lols unbeatable!).
I used to be quite a bit of a fighting game snob, but always loved playing the Tekken games in the arcade at a high competitive level.
VF seems like a great series, but I've ran into one arcade in my entire life that actually had a decent community of players... and that was back around VF2, and the arcade was over an hour from my house. :/
Thanks. I'll update the thread title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Partialartist
As a PS2 owner, I feel pretty much kicked in the teeth.
I don't know if anyone wants to confirm or deny, but from what I've heard from people who play/own SFZ3:DU and Darkstalkers for PSP, the system is terrible for fighters, and inputs are a gamble. I don't see how it will be any different here.
Also, I was really just looking forward to seeing DR on PS2, and I still am, but after this news, even if they do plan to do DR on PS2, it's not going to be for a while now, because this is just the kind of game that PSP needs to revitalize its unit sales.
... Fuck man.
I can't see how wouldn't see a PS2 release- the install base is too big to pass up for Namco. Would be nice to see a tricked-out edition for the PS3 launch, though...
If this comes on PS2 also, and at the same time, cool. Otherwise, gay.
I've got Darkstalkers Chronicle and Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max, and the controls are great on both games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Do You Like Erotic?
I could see them making this the GH version of Tekken 5, like what Sega did with VF 4 Evo (which replaced the existing GH version of VF 4). If not, well, at least Tekken 5 on the PS2 has the arcade Tekken 1-3 on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
I never liked the movement in VF4, I felt like i was never where I wanted to be. On the other hand, I hate the ground system of tekken, the ground game does not make the game more enjoyable for me at all. Currently I am playing DR quite a bit in the arcades, um, if maryland doesn`t have it, paul got a few new hits that seem to make for new combos. DJ seems prettyyyy good as well.
Looks pretty amazing. Thanks to duckroll on GAF.
Anyway, I find it funny that everyone seems to suddenly agree with Dog$'s old argument on handheld titles, but only in respect to and because of the PSP. :p Bleh.
not bad looking at all. I still think I'd rather have a PS2/PS3 version but whatever, I'm sure it will hit a main console in time (if not the same time).
I doubt DR is going to get a console release, unless Namco plans to pull a GTA:LCS. I think the next console release will be Tekken Tag 2 or Tekken 6 for PS3.
You must be shitting me. DR for PSP, this is the best news. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a PS2 version, but this looks absolutely amazing.
Everyone's "bitch bitch bitch" about the control in PSP fighters, but they seem to have played nothing but the Capcom ones. I repeat, and I have said this way too many times and nobody fucking listens: GGXX#R plays wonderfully on PSP. No problem with input, for ANYTHING. Just because Darkstalkers is a lazily programmed piece of shit doesn't mean the system is broken. I am confident that Tekken will be awesome.
Man I didn't even know DR was out in the arcades yet. This shit happens everytime, I was gone when 5.1 came out and I get back and I get my ass annihalated for like the first week, oh well. Any impressions on Dragonuv or Armor King?
This is definantly a day one purchase, and those screens look beautiful but doesn't it kind of look like the characters are too big for the screen.
Hey, cool - they copied the blur effect from DoA4! lol, nice scan job.
For the past year I've played portables far more than home consoles. I don't see what difference it makes really, the screen on the PSP's big enough to suck you in and take up your field of vision. It's not like you're all that aware of screen size when playing anyway unless you have a massive tv you have to turn your head to take in the edges of. But the "this is a waste on a portable" argument is pretty silly to me. I don't enjoy a game any less because it's on a portable, and I like the "I can kick back in bed and play" angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Waht about the "I like playing Tekken with a group of people at my house" angle?Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Tell the people to go buy PSPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Yeah? Well what about...yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Is that in the Kama Sutra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
The "Versus Books" version of the Kama Sutra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
You hit it right on the head, man -- inputs are a gamble -- just as they are for SFA3 Max (Capcom should've offered that d-pad offer as a free pack-in).Quote:
Originally Posted by Do You Like Erotic?
Plus, the fact PSP continues to dismiss Infrastructure support for games like this is quite depressing. I am sure DR will be a great game, but it (like any other classic fighting franchise) would drive even greater numbers with true online play.
Sure -- after one grows accustomed to inputting moves on the d-pad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent X
You're a diamond in the rough.
Sure we've been listening -- we just like to see you get riled up, heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Hearing this makes me happy -- maybe I'll import or just wait on the domestic release.
I found these in a post by neo2046 on Gaming Age Forums:
http://www.gpara.com/comingsoon/tekk...7/img/0001.jpg
http://www.gpara.com/comingsoon/tekk...7/img/0002.jpg
http://www.gpara.com/comingsoon/tekk...7/img/0003.jpg
http://www.gpara.com/comingsoon/tekk...0217/index.htm
God bless the PSP for raising the bar in portable graphics. I never thought I'd see portable games look that good; and that would look impressive on a console. The glass in the next to last shot is the most impressive shot to me, with the lava in the final one being next.
No fucking way. That's gotta be renders from the intro or something, right?
Since this game obviously unlocks the power of 333, I expect the batteries to last 2 hours on full charge.
OMFG. If this isn't 333mhz, then I'm stunned.
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...60217/dr07.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...60217/dr06.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...60217/dr16.jpg
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...60217/dr10.jpg
more clean screens here:
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...0060217/dr.htm
Wow, that's impressive. Very impressive.
Going to get this day one...even though you can count me in the 'would rather it be on PS2' crowd.
I hate that PSP games cost 50 bucks. Have I ever mentioned that?
I will never buy a non-Castlevania PSP game for $50. Never. I got GTA for $38, which is the only $50 MSRP game I own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
This might just be the game that makes me break down and get the PSP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giga Power
Do you have a job?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
The official site has a lot more screens..
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tkdrps...enshots01.html
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tkdrps...pture_0112.jpg
~ OMG, hearts everywhere! ~
Not a well-paying one, but ebay selling takes care of many gaming expenses. I fail to see what this has to do with Dark ResurrectiOn being the game that might get me to finally buy the PSP. It's just continuing something that started when I bought the PS2 to play Tekken Tag Tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I imagine Yoshi is going to go on to say that anyone who has a job doesn't have an excuse to pass up the PSP because it is sexy and wonderful and bla blah etc.
Which is a bunch of crap, because I have two jobs and I still can't find a good reason to drop $200-250 on a handheld system, let alone one that has a flawed d-pad, short battery life, and an extremely small library of quality games.
Regarding the issue at hand, I'm disappointed that Namco hasn't announced a PS2 version of T5DR, but I'm not going to get a PSP just so I can play this. Or at least not until I've had the chance to play through Super Princess Peach and I inevitably end up trading in my DS. :s
Not to mention that if Namco doesn't include a credible online option for this game, then it'll make the PSP version of T5DR useless. At least with a PS2 version, you can invite friends to play on the console Kama Sutra-style, as Korly previously mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
Actually, no. I was heading in the opposite direction actually. The "how do people without jobs buy a $250 toy" direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
So you're 22 years-old, mooching off your parents, and whoring review copies of games on ebay to buy more games. My suspicions have been confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Nice assumptions, there.
That's nice grammar. You should write for a living.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
It's a shame you don't get paid to troll.
The fact that you respond is enough payment for him.
Indirectly I do. And you'd shit if you knew how much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
It's the gift that keeps on giving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
lol, oh. Carry on, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I just got a 360, therefore money is tight for a bit... so even though I have 3 jobs, the thought of dropping of another $250 before even having a game to play on it is NOT appealing.
The Prince of all cosmos is in T5: DR for the arcade (and by extension, PSP). Well, sort of anyway:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...iroth/lili.jpg
Heres some gameplay footage. No music in the background, although I'm sure the final wont end up that way.
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tkdrpsp/movie/index.html
I like Devil Jin's flying grab move in that last one. Straight out of Jin's Tekken 3 ending.
Prince being in = purchase +1
PS2 plz... I need to put my stick to use.
Good luck. Sony won't want it to steal thunder from Tekken 6 on PS3.
Probably not, but then again I need to save for that system anyway.
Sorry psp.
Where's this gonna be cheapest? Any CAG-style deals?
I haven't seen any. PSP games either sell well at full price, or the retail mark-up is tiny, because they seem to rarely go on sale.
I'm probably going to give this a shot. I hear it borrows alot from VF4, and since there's no Evo port coming this sounds like the next best thing. Plus, those visuals are freaking hot.
The game's only $40, too - which means some places will have it at $35 if you dig around a bit.
Not that it matters now, but I'm pretty sure Outpost had it availiable for preorder at like $30 w/free shipping. Outpost takes 2-3weeks to get their shit to your house anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
I still believe. Perhaps released as a special edition on PS3 or a budget-priced PS2 game a 'la GTA Liberty City Stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I figured that if it was ever going to hit the PS2, it would have been used to replace the GH version of Tekken 5. I hope they end up releasing the upgrade on the PS2, too, but I don't see it happening while this is fresh on the PSP.
We'll probably be seeing it go to PS2 near the end of January 2007 or later, if it shows up. Namco probably doesn't want a $20 T5DR out for PS2 to interfere with the $40 PSP one's potential Christmas sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
For me, playing T5DR without an arcade stick would be like trying Time Crisis without a gun. This is one of those times I wish the PSP had a Neo-Geo Pocket type D-Pad.
That's what I think, too. We might eventually see it on PS2 early next year, priced at the $20 level like the PS2 version of Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories. They could even release it as a Greatest Hit, treating it as an enhanced version of an already existing Greatest Hits game, like Sega did with Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Meanwhile, this looks really good on PSP. I don't really follow the Tekken series all that closely, and don't own any Tekken games for myself, but I'm thinking of at least giving this PSP game a rental, just to see for myself how good it is.
Very pretty, but sadly it looks like the same game I never really liked. I have always liked the tekken roster though despite not finding the game play all that enthrawling. But the new characrters looked pretty shitty too. Though it's cool law is back for this one, did anyone want gunjack again though?
Yes, because he does the little Russian dance as an attack.
Ok, you got me there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
He gets a killer phone operator headset thing too.
This might be helpful for those purchasing Tekken.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4...bestbuy2nu.gif
Also, Tekken Bowl FOR LIFE!!!!!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Is that coupon for real?? I would go to BB tomorrow if it is!!
Of course it isn't. It's photoshopped form an older $10 off coupon. The 2 in $20 off and the 2 in 8/20/06 look suspect, as if they've been edited. The original also said "No copies." before the cash value stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Gay. :(
Has anyone picked this up yet? It's got nothing but good press so far.
Chux and I got it.
The controls are astoundingly good, as are the load times. Seeing as those are the 2 main problems with just about every PSP game, I am very pleased.
Also, TEKKEN BOWL.
Dammit! I was hoping to pick up DOA4 for $40.Quote:
Originally Posted by dementia_
QFT. I literally played this for 6 hours yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
That's funny because the only problem I have with this game is the controls, but my friend is hooking my up with one of those dpad mods today. He said it improved his gameplay by 100%. And I'm kind of mad they left out the Tekken 5 stages and music, but that is a very small gripe.
Are any of you guys going to try and play this over xlink kai, or have played any games over it?
Holy crap, I never thought of that.
I've never had any luck with that shit before, that's why I didn't do it.