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14 Mar 2006, 04:56 AM
bVork

Beyond Good & Evil 2

News in French

For the monoglots, here's the gist: BG&E was originally planned to be a trilogy. BG&E2 has been in pre-production for a few months. The gameplay will be similar to the first one, but with the ability to travel to multiple planets. It will be a next-generation game (on Revolution). And it won't be ready until at least 2007.

Seems promising, but I hope there's either an official announcement or independent confirmation - a single news source on the Internet doesn't cut it in this day and age.
14 Mar 2006, 05:21 AM
Cowutopia

WHOA fucking awesome! I will finally know what happened to Pey'J and shit!

If it's all true that is.
14 Mar 2006, 05:26 AM
Tommy Tallarico

I can't believe anyone cares.
14 Mar 2006, 05:28 AM
Cowutopia

I believe you have a problem, omfg. You don't like good games.
14 Mar 2006, 06:35 AM
Finch

I still think omfg is annoying. The world is right on the 14th.

So anyway, i'm happy too.
14 Mar 2006, 06:41 AM
Fe 26

omfg really should start posting more again. Popping in every now and then to disagree with someone or to be smarmy is starting to make him look like a butthead.
14 Mar 2006, 07:11 AM
magnifiedplaid

This is awesome news. Its good to hear that BGE is finally getting the sequel that it deserves, because I thought the first Beyond Good and Evil was a very solid game that just lacked a little bit of polish. If I remember correctly it was unfortunately released around the same time as Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and most of the public seemed to skip BGE in favor of PoP.
14 Mar 2006, 07:33 AM
dog$

Quote:

Originally Posted by bVork

It will be a next-generation game (on Revolution).

I like how the "on Revolution" part needed specific mention.

By the way, this news is still unsubstantiated at this point.
14 Mar 2006, 08:36 AM
Revoltor

I can't wait till it's 10 dollars.

No wait, I can.
14 Mar 2006, 09:16 AM
Bacon McShig

This is about the fifth time someone's claimed this news.

I won't believe it until I see a screenshot.
14 Mar 2006, 10:08 AM
Diff-chan

Whats the big deal about the original BG&E? 6/10 at most. I cant even force myself to finish it.

Probably would be an 8/10 without the stealth.
14 Mar 2006, 10:28 AM
ChaoofNee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revoltor

I can't wait till it's 10 dollars.

No wait, I can.

Yeah, worked for Rise of the Kasai. Good job, fanbase! Rant and rave for a sequel, and then ignore it! Same thing'll undoubtedly happen here.

...except this one's worth a damn.
14 Mar 2006, 11:02 AM
Dolemite

Quote:

Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq

I can't believe anyone cares.

Opaque will be overjoyed. He loved that fucking game.
14 Mar 2006, 11:03 AM
Glitch

Is Michael Ancel working on this?
14 Mar 2006, 11:19 AM
Zerodash

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

Whats the big deal about the original BG&E? 6/10 at most. I cant even force myself to finish it.

Probably would be an 8/10 without the stealth.

Agreed. The only thing that really makes the game unique is the art design. Its not a bad game, but just an average, solid game with excellent style.
14 Mar 2006, 11:22 AM
animegirl

I also didn't finish BG&E. I don't know why, it never really grabbed me. The sequel might be better though, who knows.
14 Mar 2006, 11:27 AM
Bacon McShig

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

Yeah, worked for Rise of the Kasai. Good job, fanbase! Rant and rave for a sequel, and then ignore it! Same thing'll undoubtedly happen here.

I always thought that was hilarious. So much hype and wishing for a Mark of Kri sequel, then it happens and absolutely no one cared. That'll show the gaming industry to listen to the fans.
14 Mar 2006, 11:31 AM
Diff-chan

Well Rise of the Kasai sucked.

Of course, Mark of Kri sucked too IMO.
14 Mar 2006, 11:38 AM
Bacon McShig

IAWTP
14 Mar 2006, 11:46 AM
Korly

I thought BG&E was the game that the 3D Zeldas shoulda been (I haven't liked any of the 3D Zeldas yet).

It seemlessly went from story to gameplay, graphics were beautiful, and the game was streamlined. No part of the game ever felt like it was dragging (unlike sailing around for the triforce in Wind Waker).

I'd love to see a sequel.
14 Mar 2006, 12:21 PM
RedCoKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giltch

Is Michael Ancel working on this?

BG&E2 is a lie and/or he isn't working on Rayman 4. He can't be working on both.
14 Mar 2006, 12:24 PM
ChaoofNee

Maybe he's Superman.
...or, the French Superbeman.
14 Mar 2006, 12:41 PM
Bacon McShig

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCoKid

BG&E2 is a lie and/or he isn't working on Rayman 4. He can't be working on both.

He didn't work on Rayman 3, so I would assume he's not working on 4.
14 Mar 2006, 01:27 PM
Compass

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revoltor

I can't wait till it's 10 dollars.

No wait, I can.

:lol:
14 Mar 2006, 01:32 PM
RedCoKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

He didn't work on Rayman 3, so I would assume he's not working on 4.

I'm assuming he sold out again and is working on another movie-licensed game instead of BG&E2.
14 Mar 2006, 01:45 PM
Frogacuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korly

I thought BG&E was the game that the 3D Zeldas shoulda been (I haven't liked any of the 3D Zeldas yet).

It seemlessly went from story to gameplay, graphics were beautiful, and the game was streamlined. No part of the game ever felt like it was dragging (unlike sailing around for the triforce in Wind Waker).

I'd love to see a sequel.

My sentiments exactly.

But fuck the Revolution. Multiplatform, please.
14 Mar 2006, 01:49 PM
Bacon McShig

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCoKid

I'm assuming he sold out again and is working on another movie-licensed game instead of BG&E2.

I dunno, I'd tend to believe that in most cases, but wasn't he hand-selected by Peter Jackson for the King Kong game? It's not like he went after the liscence on his own chanting "moneymoneymoney".
14 Mar 2006, 01:59 PM
TobalRox

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid

This is awesome news. Its good to hear that BGE is finally getting the sequel that it deserves, because I thought the first Beyond Good and Evil was a very solid game that just lacked a little bit of polish. If I remember correctly it was unfortunately released around the same time as Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time, and most of the public seemed to skip BGE in favor of PoP.

Most of the public skipped on PoP too.
14 Mar 2006, 02:34 PM
RedCoKid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

I dunno, I'd tend to believe that in most cases, but wasn't he hand-selected by Peter Jackson for the King Kong game? It's not like he went after the liscence on his own chanting "moneymoneymoney".

Yeah, Peter Jackson is a bastard for luring him away from better projects. Come on, King Kong!? :rolleyes: (Yes, I played it. Yes, it sucked.) Jackson must've bribed A LOT of money for Ancel to suddenly lose his pride in creativity.
14 Mar 2006, 02:43 PM
Master

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

Well Rise of the Kasai sucked.

Of course, Mark of Kri sucked too IMO.

I wasn't a fan of either, but I loved Beyond Good & Evil.

Also, the soundtrack rules.
14 Mar 2006, 03:02 PM
Bacon McShig

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCoKid

Yeah, Peter Jackson is a bastard for luring him away from better projects. Come on, King Kong!? :rolleyes: (Yes, I played it. Yes, it sucked.) Jackson must've bribed A LOT of money for Ancel to suddenly lose his pride in creativity.

Well to be fair, when a director hand-picks you for a project coming right off of making a movie (trilogy) that won a ton of Oscars, I'd imagine it's pretty hard to turn him down.
14 Mar 2006, 03:05 PM
MechDeus

This is excellent news.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

This is about the fifth time someone's claimed this news.

I won't believe it until I see a screenshot.

This is unfortunately true.
14 Mar 2006, 03:09 PM
marwan

ok is BG&E really that good? i have ot ony my PS2 HDD and havent played it. heck i got Onimusha 4 today, plus i got a buncha 360 shit i need to play. Is BG&E worth it? ...i have to admit there is something about euro developed games that i don't like....not sure if it's the art or atmosphere...
14 Mar 2006, 03:24 PM
Zerodash

Don't play the PS2 version of BG&E- its fugly. Go with the XBox version.
14 Mar 2006, 04:47 PM
marwan

I borrowed the PS2 from a friend and dumped it on my PS2 HDD. i'd love to play the game on xbox, but there are so many new games out there i want before owning this game again in a prettier format.
14 Mar 2006, 04:51 PM
Compass

It's a 6 or 7. Don't kill yourself to play it. Framerate's still crappy on the Xbox.
14 Mar 2006, 04:58 PM
marwan

screw it then. my copy of Onimusha 4 is here, so i'll play that instead. I hope Oni is compatible with the HD Loader.
14 Mar 2006, 04:58 PM
frostwolf ex

if this gets verified, ill be very happy. bg&e was not for everyone, but it was for me, loved the game, loved the ending(till the cliffhanger). i really hope this gets officially confirmed.
14 Mar 2006, 06:27 PM
Cowutopia

The only thing that anyone could dislike about this game is the combat. And the combat isn't terrible.
14 Mar 2006, 08:16 PM
James

I found the combat pretty fun, actually, and the only real problem with it was that there wasn't enough. Jade did what I wanted, in the direction that I wanted it done, exactly when I told her.

Screw waiting for cheap, I'll buy it if/when it hits. Generally, if a game isn't worth full price then I just don't have time for it. There are exceptions, of course, but not many.

James
15 Mar 2006, 12:43 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

The only thing that anyone could dislike about this game is the combat. And the combat isn't terrible.

So you enjoyed the cookie-cutter storyline that was the antithesis of the actual title and the bland stereotyped characters? Or was it the stealth sections where people moved in a ridiculous, robotic fashion with thier periferal vision surgically removed?

Great setting though.
15 Mar 2006, 12:49 AM
Kbu Chan

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

ok is BG&E really that good? i have ot ony my PS2 HDD and havent played it. heck i got Onimusha 4 today, plus i got a buncha 360 shit i need to play. Is BG&E worth it? ...i have to admit there is something about euro developed games that i don't like....not sure if it's the art or atmosphere...

Yeah, you need to get it, but on GC. The other two versions have a chugaliscious framerate and the GC version runs at 60 fps with added effects not in the other versions. Ancel favored the GC hardware over the XBox and PS2 and the GC rev is stunning, one of the best games of this gen.
15 Mar 2006, 01:00 AM
Frogacuda

The GC version is indeed, probably the best, but to say it has a solid 60fps is a lie. The framerate is good though.
15 Mar 2006, 01:05 AM
Kbu Chan

It does chug a little in some areas, but mostly it's damn good. It's a lot better than the other two versions.
15 Mar 2006, 01:47 AM
Korly

I played the Gamecube version and found it to be technically sound.
15 Mar 2006, 02:14 AM
Cowutopia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammadeau

So you enjoyed the cookie-cutter storyline that was the antithesis of the actual title and the bland stereotyped characters?

Great setting though.

What's cookie-cutter about the storyline? Maybe it's a BIT bland, but it beats the fuck out of this other shit I've been playing, and the presentation/perspective of the main character, the journalist, makes it all that much better. What's bland about the main characters? Did you want MGS style stealth sections? Shit, it's almost exactly like sneaking around MGS guards. They're just as daft as the ones in 1. Jeez. I don't understand you gamers sometimes.
15 Mar 2006, 02:32 AM
James

The name of the game is Beyond Good & Evil. Much as I enjoyed it, I've no idea what the title has to do with anything.

James
15 Mar 2006, 03:18 AM
Eightbitbreaks

It's better than "The Gay Science"
15 Mar 2006, 03:55 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

What's cookie-cutter about the storyline? Maybe it's a BIT bland, but it beats the fuck out of this other shit I've been playing, and the presentation/perspective of the main character, the journalist, makes it all that much better. What's bland about the main characters? Did you want MGS style stealth sections? Shit, it's almost exactly like sneaking around MGS guards. They're just as daft as the ones in 1. Jeez. I don't understand you gamers sometimes.

Guards in MGS didn't stand in place and make 45 degree turns at set intervals, not looking down to see someone right at their feet. It was absurd and deconstructed all the work put into making this world believable.

A tough-minded chick journalist uncovers an evil plot behind the facade of a supposedly benign organization... what part of this isn't sounding painfully familiar? Do you think Highlander 2 was a masterpiece of cinema or something? Only to end by ripping off the Silver Surfer... gah. DMC3 had better plot than that, and it was shit.

Characters? We have Jade, the tough girl journo whose an orphan like 90% of videogame characters, and we have a pig man that acts like every other pig man I've ever seen in games or animation. The rest of the characters had so much depth I can't remember them... well, except for the stereotypical Jamaicans, but Cool Runnings had more developed characters so I doubt you're hanging your argument on them.

I still think the world was lovely though. Most games only wished they looked that good.
15 Mar 2006, 05:31 AM
Opaque

I've got my hopes up too many times over this crap; I've learned my lesson.

When we see screenshot I'll believe it's being made.
15 Mar 2006, 10:16 AM
Kbu Chan

Day 1 purchase, I might even tip the cashier.
15 Mar 2006, 10:22 AM
Diff-chan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Guards in MGS didn't stand in place and make 45 degree turns at set intervals, not looking down to see someone right at their feet. It was absurd and deconstructed all the work put into making this world believable.

A tough-minded chick journalist uncovers an evil plot behind the facade of a supposedly benign organization... what part of this isn't sounding painfully familiar? Do you think Highlander 2 was a masterpiece of cinema or something? Only to end by ripping off the Silver Surfer... gah. DMC3 had better plot than that, and it was shit.

Characters? We have Jade, the tough girl journo whose an orphan like 90% of videogame characters, and we have a pig man that acts like every other pig man I've ever seen in games or animation. The rest of the characters had so much depth I can't remember them... well, except for the stereotypical Jamaicans, but Cool Runnings had more developed characters so I doubt you're hanging your argument on them.

I still think the world was lovely though. Most games only wished they looked that good.

I have never played a game which had a similar type of story presented the way it was. I really liked how you took pictures and it ended up in the newspapers and so forth. Taking pictures of animals was a lot of fun. It was slick, it was fresh. Its been in movies before but I dont play movies. Pey'j was IMO a horrible character (probably what the French think all Americans are like) and I was a little bit glad when he got captured but the other guy, QQ or whatever, I liked him a lot.

The stealth sequences were awful but I went over that. Stealth in games is to me like one of those things that always sounds good but never is. The way it mixed up different genres was flawless, I loved that driving sequence before the slaughterhouse. And fighting those soldiers was a lot of fun, I think if they ditched the stealth and worked on the combat a bit so you could fight 2 or more at once would've made the game a million times better.

Like I said a good game but imperfect. Ancel is a smart guy so if hes working on BG&E2 I trust that he knows what works and what didnt in the first one.
15 Mar 2006, 01:17 PM
Dolemite

I picked up BG&E a while back for $10, played a little into it, enjoyed it, but then it went on my pile and hasn't been touched since. I think it eventually deserves another chance, however.
15 Mar 2006, 01:44 PM
Daitokuji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite

I picked up BG&E a while back for $10, played a little into it, enjoyed it, but then it went on my pile and hasn't been touched since. I think it eventually deserves another chance, however.

I did the same thing. When I sat it down after playing it for a while i didn't think much of playing again till i started hearing good things from it. Then I picked it back up and wouldn't stop playing it till i beat it. And I felt it was worth the purchase and with the ending left the way it was, I wanted another badly. I'm not going to get hopes up till i see screen shots tho.
05 Apr 2006, 05:15 PM
RedCoKid

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/700/700254p1.html

Quote:

Today, Ubisoft announced that a new Rayman title is indeed in development at Ubisoft's Montpellier studio, lead by Ancel. Though the company is holding back on details, it did confirm that the new game will arrive for both current- and next-generation systems.

Ancel is back! :)
05 Apr 2006, 08:32 PM
Bacon McShig

Cool. But that probably means that this BG&E2 news is bunk.
06 Apr 2006, 12:57 AM
Frogacuda

New Ancel-directed Rayman is just as good in my book.
15 May 2008, 10:49 AM
frostwolf ex

well, it only took 2 years but finally a bit more concrete info is up. apparently bg&e 2 is in pre production, and has been for some time, and ancil is on it, but ubisoft is dragging their feet greenlighting it. http://kotaku.com/390720/there-is-a-...evil-2-sort-of
15 May 2008, 11:01 AM
ChaoofNee

Peyj. :(
15 May 2008, 11:39 AM
YellerDog

The first one wasn't that great honestly!
15 May 2008, 11:53 AM
Frogacuda

You're not that great :cry:
15 May 2008, 12:09 PM
YellerDog

I'm with Aaron on this one. Pretty world, otherwise kind of worthless.
15 May 2008, 12:09 PM
Andrew

This news causes a pleasant stirring in my loins.
15 May 2008, 12:13 PM
Frogacuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

I'm with Aaron on this one. Pretty world, otherwise kind of worthless.

It does everything that Wind Waker tried to do better than Wind Waker (except maybe combat).
15 May 2008, 12:17 PM
epmode

Oh oh and the photography! <3 <3 <3

I hate that the Steam release still didn't add gamepad controls or I'd have bought it a second time.

edit: I MEAN THAT I <3 THE PHOTOGRAPHY, NOT THAT THE SHITTY WIND WAKER PHOTO QUEST WAS BETTER
15 May 2008, 12:21 PM
YellerDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It does everything that Wind Waker tried to do better than Wind Waker (except maybe combat).

This is such a lie. :lol:

Wind Waker looks better, has MUCH better combat, a less intrusive storyline, and is at least equally annoying in its boat sequences.

Wind Waker is also distinctively not French.

The photography sequences were a nice gimmick, but come on. Pokemon's nap.
15 May 2008, 12:22 PM
A Robot Bit Me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

This is about the fifth time someone's claimed this news.

I won't believe it until I see a screenshot.

Posted back in 2006 and still applicable today.
15 May 2008, 12:29 PM
NeoZeedeater

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

and is at least equally annoying in its boat sequences.

Now I know you're just joking around. There's nothing wrong with BG&E's boating whereas Wind Waker's ruins the game.
15 May 2008, 12:30 PM
YellerDog

I was really bugged by the boating in BG&E.

Then again, I don't think I ever like boating sequences in games. Hello Half Life 2!

They always feel very busted to me.
15 May 2008, 12:34 PM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

This is such a lie. :lol:

Wind Waker looks better, has MUCH better combat, a less intrusive storyline, and is at least equally annoying in its boat sequences.

I'll give you the better combat because it's true. But it's hard to love a combat system when I don't think I ever went below two thirds of my available hearts.

And Wind Waker is one of the best looking games ever so I guess I'll give you that too (even though BG&E stands up very well there).

But storyline? Wind Waker is typical Zeldatrash. Nothing particularly interesting there.

And that boat comment proves that you're out of your goddamn mind.
15 May 2008, 12:36 PM
YellerDog

Gameplay > Story, always. BG&E was some half-baked conspiracy shit, Zelda you could just ignore, because it didn't matter. You were playing the game more than you were talking to assholes, which was 90% of BG&E.
15 May 2008, 12:40 PM
Frogacuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

This is such a lie. :lol:

Wind Waker looks better, has MUCH better combat, a less intrusive storyline, and is at least equally annoying in its boat sequences.

Wind Waker is also distinctively not French.

The photography sequences were a nice gimmick, but come on. Pokemon's nap.

I think you're misremembering the amount of story in BG&E. It wasn't that much at all, and it was a good story for what they were trying to do (as opposed to just making up more bullshit excuses for fetch quests without advancing the story at all).

As others have said the boating was much better, the world was much better (for being a lot smaller but still having just as much shit to do in it), and it was paced a million times better.

And French games rule.
15 May 2008, 12:42 PM
YellerDog

Regardless, I didn't like it, I'm happy for you if you did.
15 May 2008, 12:43 PM
Andrew

I don't know which one can beat up the other. Nonetheless, I thought they were both pretty damn fun.
15 May 2008, 12:46 PM
Frogacuda

If fun and Wind Waker were in the same room, the universe would cease to exist.
15 May 2008, 12:47 PM
Anal Kaboom

Why are we compare BG&E to WW? It BG&E doesn't even come close.
15 May 2008, 12:47 PM
YellerDog

Frog: You're the one bringing up Wind Waker, man.

(I really liked Wind Waker. I think I was drawing things while the sailing was going on, though)
15 May 2008, 12:48 PM
ChaoofNee

You know what Wind Waker is missing, though?

HOLAY HOLAY
(holay holay)
BABA WHO ARE EN DA SUN
HOLAY HOLAY
(holay holay)
BABA WHO ARE EN DA SUN
15 May 2008, 12:50 PM
Frogacuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by not Anal Kaboom

Why are we compare BG&E to WW? It BG&E doesn't even come close.

Are you letting your cleaning lady post with your account?
15 May 2008, 12:53 PM
YellerDog

Even cleaning ladies know that game was rubbish. ;)
15 May 2008, 12:55 PM
Andrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

If fun and Wind Waker were in the same room, the universe would cease to exist.

Wind Waker was good. Granted, the sailing was a pain in the ass, and it was easily the least challenging game in the series.

But when you're at underwater Hyrule Castle, and you pull the Master Sword, and everything comes to live... beauty. Also, it had the best final boss fight of the series. This is the truth.

:link:
15 May 2008, 12:58 PM
Frogacuda

I liked everything that was a dungeon. But everything that wasn't a dungeon is SwordQuest for Atari bad.
15 May 2008, 01:01 PM
YellerDog

You also think Iron Man wasn't that great of a movie and most Master System games had wonderful music.
15 May 2008, 01:02 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

If fun and Wind Waker were in the same room, the universe would cease to exist.

You've been over using the hyperbole quite a bit lately. WW had a lot of fun shit going on in it.
15 May 2008, 01:04 PM
AaronChance

BG&E was barely a game. I think I did more photography than I did fighting or skimming the seas. The stealth wasn't bad. The final battle was a bad joke. Would have made a better movie.
15 May 2008, 01:04 PM
YellerDog

Fuckin' A.
15 May 2008, 01:04 PM
Andrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I liked everything that was a dungeon. But everything that wasn't a dungeon is SwordQuest for Atari bad.

The town was good, too. And some of the islands had very intriguing designs. The overall animation was top-notch. The story did an efficient job of mixing things up a bit. Overall, the game had a lot of strong points. And Tingle was actually funny. ("What's that? Are you... *sniff, sniff*... poor?")

You're letting your red-hot rage for the sailing spill over into other aspects.
15 May 2008, 01:16 PM
NeoZeedeater

True, Wind Waker has plenty of good points (I did keep my copy) but for a game in one of the most loved franchises ever, it's easy to be disappointed by its flaws and exaggerate. I was enjoying the game but by the time I got far into it, I was getting sick of that ocean. It's such an integral part of the design that the player can't ignore it, unfortunately.
15 May 2008, 01:33 PM
ChaoofNee

HOLAY HOOOOOLAY
15 May 2008, 01:48 PM
Nash

Was there an option to invert the X-axis in Beyond Good & Evil (Xbox version)? I don't remember there was such an option, and it pissed me off throughout the game. That alone kept me from enjoying it as much as any of the Zelda games. Hopefully the sequel will have it.
15 May 2008, 02:00 PM
GohanX

Quote:

Originally Posted by squall_vb

This news causes a pleasant stirring in my loins.

You know, that's kind of creepy seeing that type next to your smiling slime avatar. I'd rep you if I could
15 May 2008, 02:12 PM
Anal Kaboom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It does everything that Wind Waker tried to do better than Wind Waker (except maybe combat).

:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

Now I know you're just joking around. There's nothing wrong with BG&E's boating whereas Wind Waker's ruins the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

True, Wind Waker has plenty of good points (I did keep my copy) but for a game in one of the most loved franchises ever, it's easy to be disappointed by its flaws and exaggerate. I was enjoying the game but by the time I got far into it, I was getting sick of that ocean. It's such an integral part of the design that the player can't ignore it, unfortunately.

The rest of the game is so good I don't see how you could get hung up on the boating. Next to OoT, WW is the best in the series. Suck on that TNL.
15 May 2008, 02:17 PM
A Robot Bit Me

"The rest of the game" is but a cherry on the pie plate full of poop that is the sailing.
15 May 2008, 04:00 PM
ChaoofNee

HOLAY HOOOOOOLAY
15 May 2008, 04:15 PM
bVork

Quote:

Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

well, it only took 2 years but finally a bit more concrete info is up. apparently bg&e 2 is in pre production, and has been for some time, and ancil is on it, but ubisoft is dragging their feet greenlighting it. http://kotaku.com/390720/there-is-a-...evil-2-sort-of

HOMG FANTASTIC NEWS. I don't think Ubisoft would be stupid enough to can this, as they'd probably lose Ancel.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

Wind Waker looks better, has MUCH better combat, a less intrusive storyline, and is at least equally annoying in its boat sequences.

Oh come on. I think the combat is pretty much equal. I liked BG&E's simplified system that autotargeted multiple enemies. It's about as challenging as Wind Waker's combat, though, which is a bad thing. The story was a little heavy-handed but it had far more interesting characters than any Zelda game. And at least BG&E's boat can go fast. Plus there's far less ocean to traverse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I think you're misremembering the amount of story in BG&E. It wasn't that much at all, and it was a good story for what they were trying to do (as opposed to just making up more bullshit excuses for fetch quests without advancing the story at all).

I adore BG&E but I thought the story was a little heavy-handed about the way it approached making a statement about the role of new media. What the story did well, however, was create interesting and unique characters with distinct personalities.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronChance

BG&E was barely a game. I think I did more photography than I did fighting or skimming the seas. The stealth wasn't bad. The final battle was a bad joke. Would have made a better movie.

You do realize that much of the photography is optional, right? There are far more pearls in the world than you need to purchase everything, so you can easily ignore quests that you don't find interesting - including many of the later film rolls.
15 May 2008, 04:21 PM
YellerDog

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Originally Posted by bVork

Oh come on. I think the combat is pretty much equal. I liked BG&E's simplified system that autotargeted multiple enemies. It's about as challenging as Wind Waker's combat, though, which is a bad thing. The story was a little heavy-handed but it had far more interesting characters than any Zelda game. And at least BG&E's boat can go fast. Plus there's far less ocean to traverse.

Lies. There is NOTHING in BG&E that comes near fighting the knights/Gannon.
15 May 2008, 05:18 PM
Andy

Please be true. I'd buy it at a high price, Ubisoft. Many dollars.
15 May 2008, 05:22 PM
Cowdisease

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Originally Posted by Andy

Please be true. I'd buy it at a high price, Ubisoft. Many dollars.

Rape dollars?

And why isn't BG&E1 still not BC with my 360?!!
15 May 2008, 05:32 PM
Opaque

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Originally Posted by Opaque in 2006

I've got my hopes up too many times over this crap; I've learned my lesson.

When we see screenshot I'll believe it's being made.

I would also like to add that at this point it's been so long I have no hopes of any sequel actually feeling like the original.

I'm thinking that if this ever happens it will be the new Musashi Samurai Legend.
15 May 2008, 05:35 PM
Nash

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Originally Posted by Cowdisease

And why isn't BG&E1 still not BC with my 360?!!

Be careful what you wish for, because Beyond Good & Evil is still not backwards compatible with the 360!

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