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Id like to get a statement from Yoshi.
I know I'm not Yoshi, but I am a life long Eagles fan and out here in Phillyville. The fans have turned against FO and McNabb. The things they both have said lately out here is not good. Trust me the stuff he has said and what has been reported is not good. I hope TO beats my team just to shove it in the FO's face.
FO= Front Office
A cocky asshole on the Cowboys? Say it isn't so.
i can't wait to see parcells explode on TO
This is nothing new. Philly fans turn on their team at least twelve times a season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
If Parcells can handle Keyshawn & Terry Glenn, he's man enough to put the clamps on a TO beginning the downside of his career. Feel bad for whoever's stuck coaching him next year, though.
Still, pretty shameless to sign a man who once stomped on their symbol.
As a Giants fan, I support these endless Cowboy signings of over the hill big name veterans. Mediocrity forever! :tu:
i predict he'll play 3 games tops next season.
Don't worry. Brian Dawkins will shatter his collarbone again.
I can't decide whether I want Philly or Dallas to get more fucked over by this.
It's hurting my head.
Philly fans are assholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
Maybe not you, but maybe so.
What is cocky about T.O. He says it like it is. He did it in San Francisco and he did it in Philly.
Like it is in T.O's world. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar
Disclaimer: I <3 the Cowboys.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
TO is the best WR in the NFL at this time. This man plays hurt to try to win a Superbowl, will take hard hits over the middle and makes plays that win games. He's a cocky sunofabitch for a damn good reason.
I hope the Tuna can shut him up long enough to win some games. The thing is now TO has something to prove to San Fran AND Philly by showing that he can be a decent teammate.
Or he'll just do the same shit he always has and move somewhere else in a year or two.
All I care about are the Ws. And winning the East. :D
Even after his last crummy season, I still say Moss is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six
I don't know if Bledsoe to Owens is enough to put the Cowboys over the top. As a whole team, I'd still put the Giants and Redskins ahead of them right now. But we'll see.Quote:
All I care about are the Ws. And winning the East. :D
Jerry Jones should've spent the 2nd rounder to get Culpepper.
funny that one of the reasons Brad Childress wanted to trade Culpepper was he resembled too much like T.O
Terry Glenn would disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3515/
He was the fastest player on the Cowboys and often was double teamed to keep him at bay. He still put up impressive numbers and with TO he won't be double teamed anymore.
I'll give credit to Culpepper for having a great long ball, but his accuracy really showed without Moss in the lineup. Bledsoe is a much better quarterback.
Hmmm....I don't know that I agree. Everyone's down on Culpepper after a bad season without Moss, but I still don't see anyone else who compares to his skillset. Yeah, he has alot of turnovers, but I like to think that he makes up for it by being a one-man scoring machine. No QB's better on the goal line. And he's gotta be one of the top 5 deep ball guys in the league, and is the 2nd best rusher at QB (imo).
The thing that always gets me about Bledsoe is that he's so leadfooted and such a slow decision maker that any team with him is pretty much forced to go max-protect all the time, and you can stop the Cowboy offence in the crunch by blitzing off the edges. I don't get why the Cowboys haven't splurged to get a QB of the future - a legit one, not any converted baseball players or NCAA nobodies with potential - to bring along behind him. Okay, I do, Parcells. But still.
I'm surprised Parcells didn't try to get Edge. Parcells likes the running game, far more than passing the ball.
I'd compare Culpepper to McNair. They both have great movement in the pocket and the ability to get the ball down the field, but both are showing thier age now. With Culpepper's knee being questionable, he may become just as lead footed as Bledsoe.
It's worse than signing Deion back in 1995, but I am hoping for a similar result. I figure they have one year before he implodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
If we could get a damn QB that wasn't a crackhead or 40 years old our RBs would put up much better numbers. The Edge would only improve things a little - we still need some kind of passing threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Draft a QB, Dallas. Please.
They need offensive lineman. That's been the real cancer of the offense.
I agree with that. People are saying James is on the downside, but I think he'll still be more effective for the next three years than Julius Jones will ever be. The lack of a running game has really been glaring the last couple of seasons in Dallas, and I'm surprised they didn't try harder to address that while they've got Parcells.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Edge is going to find it a hell of a lot harder to do what he does in Arizona without the threat of Peyton and Harrison hanging over the defense.
TO in Dallas = Dallas NFC Champions.
Last season he had 47 catches 763 yards and 6 TDs in 7 games. Which would be be 107 catches for 1744 yards and 14 TDs over 16 games. That's "over the hill" and "downside of his career"? Keep telling yourself that.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
It's always funny when people let their personal opinions affect their judgements of a player's talent. You get wonderfully insane quotes like these.
I'd rather have Bledsoe and a second rounder at this point.Quote:
Jerry Jones should've spent the 2nd rounder to get Culpepper.
The criticisms of TO are a lot more valid then "I just don't like him." Anyone with a clue will admit that he's far and away the most talented WR in football, but that hasn't produced a championship. And one big reason is that HE'S INSANE.
He busted his ass harder than anyone in Superbowl XXIX. "Hasn't produced a championship" is a horseshit critique in football, a team sport where every team has 53 players. Doubly so of a WR. They see that ball maybe 10 times a game at most.
Dude is nuts, and a locker room cancer, but he plays his fucking ass off.
This has nothing to do with personal opinion. He's going to be 33 this coming season. He's not over the hill, but he's not that far from not being a #1 option anymore. If his stats don't start to drop from here, then he is some kind of robot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
He keeps himself in ridiculous shape. People were saying he was over the hill when he left the 9ers but then he had one of the best seasons of his career before Roy Williams exploded his ankle (and still came back and had one of the greatest WR performances in a Superbowl ever). It's possible he'll start to fall off but if you look at his numbers from last year, saying, "he's not that far from not being a number 1 option anymore" is pure crazy.
LOL, how does he make the Cowboys a SB contender? They have so many other holes that it doesn't compute. Plus, they released Keyshawn for him, and while he isn't exactly TO, he's still a great player that does a lot of the things that TO does that few receivers will.
I will never say that about TO. He is the most talented WR and one that can give any "O" an instant jump.
And to respond to Saint of Killers. Most of the fans did not turn on McNabb, its the actual comments he said recently that got alot of fans in an uproar.
"What TO said was Black on Black crime." The same day he said that the news reported a black child being shot by a drive by, a family dumping their child in a dumpster for death, and a 5 yr old child eating crack in a crib because his father had to dump it somewhere.
That's why the fans turned on McNabb. Then about two weeks later a reporter asked him to clarify his remarks and he said ...
"If you don't understand what I said then it wasn't meant for you. I stand by my comment."
And the FO of the Eagles is not helping the situatrion comparing themselves to the Steelers and Patriots. Last I checked they had SB rings and Eagles have squat.
Quoting a 610 WIP host: Yeah they're the GOLD standard, while the rest of the NFL is platinum.
And the Cowboys do have holes, BUT they may resign Keyshawn.
Agreed. Except that "locker room cancer" has outweighed "played his ass off" for his whole career so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
If Keyshawn was ever really great, he sure hasn't been lately. He's basically just a small tight end. Yeah, he makes tough catches over the middle. He still hasn't broken 1000 yards or 6 TDs in the last three seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
WR is not a problem for the Cowboys, though. They need to fix that O-line.
Bullshit. Philly fans turn on McNabb every time he throws a pick or the Eagles lose a game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
See, you just hit it though. They don't have a good line or QB, so expecting some huge statline is a little much.
No whats Bullshit is saying
He was supported the entire time TO was ripping him. The fans were on HIS side, even more they were wanting TO to go. But when McNabb brought the TO thing back up during the SB on ESPN. Thats when the fans started to question him.Quote:
Philly fans turn on McNabb every time he throws a pick or the Eagles lose a game.
So did Jerry Rice, and by the time he was 34/35 people were saying he should step back and let TO be the man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Philly fans boo their team every single time something bad happens. They booed Santa Claus. They throw batteries. They are the worst fans in the nation by far. Everyone hates them.
Terry Glenn, who I don't think anyone would argue is a great receiver, had 1100 yards and 7 TDs in Dallas last season. Keyshawn is a good possesion receiver, but that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
I don't think that really started until he was in his late 30s. He also had one of the greatest seasons for a WR ever at age 33.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Philly spat on I think it was against pittsburgh some fan spat on one of the opposing players mother's, their teams can go fuck themselves with fans like that.
I know Clinton Portis's mom punched some Philly fan in the face after she had a beer thrown at her by said fan. Clinton Portis's mom is awesome.
Oh and I guess Denver didn't throw battery laced snowballs either right? Or how about Cleveland throwing beer bottles on the field hitting refs and players thereby causing the game to end, or Detroit throwing liquid on players and causing a major brawl?Quote:
Philly fans boo their team every single time something bad happens. They booed Santa Claus. They throw batteries. They are the worst fans in the nation by far. Everyone hates them
Right. Philly is bad. NO. Philly takes the blame for alot of crap.
And lets me tell you about that Santa Claus story. The Santa was drunk flipped the fans the bird, threw up on a 10 yr old, and cussed at kids. When the children sat on his lap he told them all to f' off. So, yeah people threw snow balls at him. The Pennsylvania Gov. even threw one at him.
And lets date this Santa story ... Dec.14th, 1946!
If Parcells publicly embarrases TO, then this is a good thing. But TO and his annoying agent dissapearing forever would have been better.
He wasn't drunk. And you're way off on the date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0105/203568.html
The Eagles will never win a Super Bowl with McNabb at QB.
I hope I'm wrong.
I'm wondering what strange illness/injury he's going to get this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klonoa
I think he'll revert to throwing those awesome ankle balls again.
Reggie Brown could become the next great young WR in the game, but McNabb will have to do his part and throw the football accurately for once.
I aint holding my breath
McNabb after loss #5 "I wasn't going to say anything but... It's hard to win cus i'm... playing with typhoid. I have typhoid. I'm a gamer, i play to win, it's just this typhoid man."
We released Larry Allen.
WTF.
We need to draft all OL this year.
Seriously.
WTF.
It's not like he was sucking ass last year. He was STILL dominant.
I was actually at that game, and it did NOT cause the game to end, considering we started throwing the bottles when we lost at the END of the game :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
Now have lame ass cups for our beer. :cry:
We also boo'ed our QB when he got injured. Tim Couch fucking deserved it though, what a bum.
Um...no
You guys had glass bottles of beer? I don't think I can ever remember any sporting event I have ever been to anywhere where they had glass bottles of anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
My local minor league team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
sounds like a town full of douchebagsQuote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
What did TO say that was Black on black crime? I didn't hear that.
I have to start watching ESPN more. Hopefully my ears can stand the terrible hosts of a lot of their shows a bit more.
They were plastic bottles. And the reason people were throwing them was because of a horrible call by the ref's which caused us to lose the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
You'd boo your QB if he was Tim Couch also. Any QB who is a first round pick and does as horribly as he did deserves what they got, no doubt about it (not only a first round pick, but the top QB pick of the draft that year).Quote:
Originally Posted by station82o
No, you're just as bad as Philly fans
I'm not a fan of booing any of your own players (unless they act like douchebags, I guess)...booing an injured player? That's ridiculous
Not only did we boo him when he was injured, I sure did get pleasure out of seeing the guy cry like a little girl at a press conference. Fuck Tim Couch, I'm sure he makes a great used car salesman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
There's probably nothing that you're better at than him...other than being a douchebag
OH SHIT I'M HURT! DON'T INSULT ME!Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
You calling me a douchbag doesn't change the fact that when you're getting payed $12 million a year, you better fucking perform. And when you don't perform all year, get replaced by Kelly Holcomb (who mind you was playing way better than Couch at the time), and whine about it on national tv so the coach puts you back in, YOU BETTER FUCKING PERFORM. So when Couch causes us to lose a game because he was a bitch and didn't want to be benched, and then gets injured, the guy deserves to be boo'ed.
If he wasn't a prissy asshole about being benched, saying "oooooh, i was the number one draft pick, i'm the real QB for this team", I don't think he would have ever gotten boo'ed.
T.O. is the best WR in the game. The complete package. In all fairness to T.O., he was screwed over by his old agent (prior to Rosenhaus). The jackass agent forgot to list T.O. as a free agent in time, forcing T.O. to fight his way off the 49ers and Ravens onto the Eagles and sign a below market value contract (even Gene Upshaw advised him as such at the time). I'm not justifying what he did thorugh the media last year, but when you're 32 and you just got robbed out of your free agency and last shot at a mega deal, you go out and risk your career and put on that magnificent Super Bowl performance, and you don't get a new contract from a team over $10m under the cap, shit is gonna hit the fan. These Philly fuckers tried to hold out on Westbrook and let Corey Simon walk away with all that cash available.
Let's face it: every contract in the NFL, no matter for how long, is in essence a series of one-year deals. The only guaranteed money is the signing bonus and the team can cut you at any time, for any reason. If teams can back out of long-term negotiated deals after one season, players should not be crucified when they attempt to do the same, especially considering the uncertainty of a player's career length and health. See Javon Walker. You have millionaires arguing with billionaires and why everyone seems to always side with the billionaires is beyond me.
T.O. says Jeff Garcia is gay.
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooch
Except this is his girlfriend:
http://www.playboy.com/playmates/dir...a-decesare.jpg
Yeah, and Michael Jackson had Lisa Marie, but that don't mean he ain't queerer than a $3 bill.
Lisa Marie Presley is not enitrely sane though. What's in it for the Playboy Playmate of the Year to date a gay guy? If it's the money, I'm sure she could find a straight rich guy to bang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooch
McNabb said it was Black on Black crime.
I stand corrected on the date, but I have heard from the people in the stands and his suit was tatered. He was drunk he denies it to this day. Okay maybe not tipsy drunk, but definitly buzzed.
I'm like to jump in on the fuck Tim Couch bandwagon. He was the worst thing to happen to Cleveland since they got the Browns back. I agree with everything BrAnDX105 said. And I hope he's having a great time not playing football right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
It goes beyond just him sucking, though, it is about not being a piece of shit human being. And booing a guy that just got hurt is being a piece of shit human being. Not even NY fans would do such a thing.
And to make it known I am not your typical Philly Fan.
But I think they are misunderstood and the bad drunk bastard Eagles fans are then assumed that ALL EAGLES FANS are that way.
Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
That's the reason he was booed. Not because he was hurt, he lost that game well before he was hurt. If he hadn't been such a crybaby about not getting the start it wouldn't have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
He got hurt, the fans booed.
Cleveland fans = piece of shit fans in a piece of shit city.
Sorry to break it to you, but unfortunately just because interweb diffusionx thinks so, doesn't mean it's true. There's a reason the Cleveland Browns have the largest fan base of any NFL team, and it's not because we're piece of shit fans in a piece of shit city.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
If I squandered $36 million and played the 3 most god awful seasons of football from an overall top 3 pick in the draft, and then almost lose my team a playoff spot because I'm a whiney bitch, I would want myself to get boo'ed. You may be playing this holier than thou, I would never boo someone on my own team, but really, your full of shit, and so is everyone else who says they wouldn't. Because if Tim Couch was on your team, you would have done the same exact thing. :noob:
Jeff Garcia is totally gay. I mean, TO calls him out on it publicly, and then the same week two Playboy bunnies get into a public fight at a club over him? And every news organization hears about it? Come on, they totally got paid to do that. It's not like their careers are that lucrative, or have a long shelf life (unless they can use it as a springboard to other things).
I completely forgot those 2 playmates got in a fight over him. I mean seriously, we're talking about this guy:Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
http://www.nndb.com/people/032/00002...ia-mugshot.jpg
Being fought over by these 2 women:
http://img136.exs.cx/img136/9725/carmella69lk.jpg
http://www.mallcom.com/store/fr/DVDPLAYBOY14.jpg
TOTALLY GAY!!!!!!
Is that true? That can't possibly be true. IDBTNQuote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
I have booed players on my team. Ive booed Steve Lavin when he was finishing up destroying my Bruins during his 11-18 final season.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
But I have never booed someone after they got injured and never ever will. Its a douchebag move and uncalled for. But then again I would probably be fairly bitter if I lived in a worthless shithole like Cleveland.
Yep, it is. Look up the Brown's Backers. They are the largest fan run NFL team fan club in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
I love how you resort to petty insults about my city, it's cute :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I thought it was Pittsburg honestly, wherever pittsburg is playing, there is always a good turn out of their fans.
I like how you mention that because you know Im right on the main substance of what I was saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
Cleveland does suck and the Browns are gonna suck forever. You should probably get used to it now.
Thats more of a result of the ex-Pittsburghian diaspora in this country as people have left the city over the past two decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief~Silver
The main substance of your argument I do agree with, that boo'ing an injured player is a douchbag thing to do. But what I don't agree with is your argument in this isolated situation where Tim Couch was one of the highest payed QB's in the league, sucked for 3 seasons because he was a bitch, whined about it when he got benched because he was a bitch, and then almost cost us our season because he was a bitch. Any player that acts like a bitch in the NFL, injured or not, deserves to get his ass boo'ed.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
You don't know shit fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
That was a clever comeback. Is Cleveland known for its clever comebacks?
Let's call it Cleverland.
It rhymes with Neverland, which is fitting.
You're going by a fan club membership? lol. I guess there were so many loyal fans they didn't need a team to watch in the 90s. I tried looking up merch sales to get an idea but all i could find was overall revenue. Going by that the Redskins are first, and the article also cited the Cowboys and Pats as very rich. The Pats are just a cyclical thing because they've been winning. If i had to guess i'd say the Cowboys have the most fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
Take care of Willie for me. Pats fans are missing him already.
The team moving was because Art Modell is an asshole, not because of the fans. It's funny, one of my friends at school is from Baltimore, and apparently they have just as much Art Modell hate as we do in Cleveland, and he brought a team to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
True, I've always loved Willie, I was glad to see us pick him up. We also got Ted Washington whom I believe was a former Patriot.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Burgandy ~ LOLZ!
You forgot this one too.
http://www.bluejackets.com/images/200310/2170.f.jpg
http://www.bluejackets.com/images/200310/2169.f.jpg
What kind of backwards ass logic is this? There is no way in hell that the Browns have the largest fanbase of any NFL team.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
The Cowboys definitely have the most fans. The Redskins revenue comes from their new stadium, not from a bigger fan base. It's some crazy number like 25% of all NFL fans are Cowboys fans according to the last poll I saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Yeah, it is some ass backwards logic. I was way off! :sweat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
We do have the largest organized fan club of any sport, but yeah, that isn't anywhere near having the largest fan base of any NFL team.
The more I think about it, wouldn't the Patriots have the largest fan base? Considering that they cover a region of the country, as opposed to a single city.
Well every team covers a region. New Jersey is covered by New York teams (north) and Philly teams (south) for example. No team's fanbase is covered by solely the city in their name (or, in the Jets and Giants case, they dont even play there).Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
Dallas basically has everything between Florida and California. There are about 10 Saints fans that didn't wash away in Katrina, and the Cardinals are all the way up to 23 with the James signing. Obviously Houston has some fans in there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAnDX105
that is nice. i congratulation gaycia for hitting that.
I think I also forgot how huge Texas is, and that Dallas is really the only team in that area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
And a lot of people like Dallas, I've met hardcore browns fans who hate every other team but the browns who say the Cowboy's are alright, they play a good game of football.
Everyone loves the cowboys, except homosexuals. Actually, recent movies have changed that, homosexuals do in fact, like cowboys.
When I was working in the NY/NJ area, the electricians at one worksite were telling me they were Cowboys fans. I asked why and the one guy said that you couldn't get tickets to a Giants game. Everybody that has a ticket is a season ticket owner and those season ticket holders have had the majority share for many generations.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It's all about the salary cap. I feared this would happen, but it's not really a suprise to anyone that has been listening to the sports writers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Six
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Originally Posted by ESPN
Actually, the fans cheered when he got hurt, but I know what you mean. It's completely classless. Here in Chicago, whenever we have a problem with someone on the field of play, we just mosey our drunk, no-shirt wearing asses on down onto the field and cheap shot that motherfucker. That's how civilized fans roll.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Garcia looks like a ballerina when he scrambles. He really wants to be caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Mike Vanderjagt is going to sign with the Cowboys.
lols.
Damn it. I hate it when the most accurate kicker in the history of the league joins my team.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Yeah, but Cortez missed like a 10 yard FG that would have beaten Seattle and that might have put Dallas in the playoffs
only to be killed by Seattle at a later date
edit: Upon further review, it wouldn't have. Their whole team cost them the playoffs
I generally question the whole concept of labelling a player as "clutch" or "a choker," but if anyone is a choker, it's Vandershank.
What a bunch of psychos on that team. If I had a dead pool, I'd take Parcells.
The funny part is that Cortez is Vanderjagt's replacement in Indy. If they think Vandy was bad, well, they ain't seen nothing yet. Screw clutch kicks, the guy has problems with every kick. Somehow that's better than blowing the game winner every once in awhile? I can't believe Cortez still manages to have a job in the NFL. Don't GMs watch film anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Nope, they got Vinatieri.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Yeah, don't know where you got that idea. Maybe the Colts signed Cortez as a backup.
Ah, I guess they're just going to use Cortez for kickoffs. Unless they plan on releasing him now that they got Vinateiri.
Also, it appears that the Patriots dynasty may be finally over. They've lost a ton of free agents. And have signed ... Reche Caldwell.