US Military Force Field - "Trophy"

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09 Apr 2006, 04:33 AM
D_N_G

US Military Force Field - "Trophy"

http://media2.foxnews.com/040606/040..._tobin_300.swf
09 Apr 2006, 11:36 AM
Cowutopia

Cool.
09 Apr 2006, 11:45 AM
Rumpy

That's really cool.
09 Apr 2006, 12:34 PM
Josh

Fucking Star Trek and shit.
09 Apr 2006, 12:40 PM
FX

Nice. What's next, I wonder.
09 Apr 2006, 12:46 PM
Brisco Bold

That actually put a smile on my face.
09 Apr 2006, 12:49 PM
ChaoofNee

It's okay to show this on TV 'cause Middle Eastern people don't watch TV.
09 Apr 2006, 12:56 PM
g0zen

They want them to know. Otherwise this 'top secret' technology wouldn't have been shown on television.
09 Apr 2006, 12:59 PM
Chux

Hot shit. Even if they did watch tv, do you think they're going to just think up how to do it?
09 Apr 2006, 01:12 PM
g0zen

From the sound of things it's basically the same technology as missile defense systems on modern warships; a gun or projectile of some sort that tracks the incoming and then shoots the explosive to detonate it before impact. It's not like an Overshield for tanks, yet.
09 Apr 2006, 01:24 PM
YellerDog

Reagan Star Wars!
10 Apr 2006, 04:31 PM
voltz

If the tests were a success, they need to get these system over in iraq right now.
10 Apr 2006, 05:33 PM
Critical Overdrive

RE: Video
THAT is fucking crazy.
10 Apr 2006, 06:42 PM
YellerDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

From the sound of things it's basically the same technology as missile defense systems on modern warships; a gun or projectile of some sort that tracks the incoming and then shoots the explosive to detonate it before impact. It's not like an Overshield for tanks, yet.

Circle this post with a marker. Spot on. Imaginative pre-vis stuff, that video though.
10 Apr 2006, 07:00 PM
StriderKyo

Let's see...two radars tracking high velocity projectiles fired at close range and a "top secret countermeasure" firing device. I don't see how this could possibly not work perfectly all the time under field conditions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

From the sound of things it's basically the same technology as missile defense systems on modern warships; a gun or projectile of some sort that tracks the incoming and then shoots the explosive to detonate it before impact. It's not like an Overshield for tanks, yet.

^^ yep. Don't get fooled by the silly force bubble graphic, this has nothing to do with Star Trek - it's all ballistic. This isn't really new technology. These systems are known to be absurdly ineffective in real situations.
10 Apr 2006, 07:02 PM
Cowutopia

I thought the ballistic nature of this thing was readily apparent from the video...was anyone fooled?
10 Apr 2006, 07:04 PM
YellerDog

I just don't see the effectiveness, maybe? You've still got a big chunk of missile going somewhere. Lucky days for ground support. Nice propaganda bit, thx fox!
10 Apr 2006, 07:36 PM
mollipen

Being that I know almost nothing about explosives, this could be a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyhow. Could you use a non-projectile means to do the same thing, such as, say, a high frequency radio wave, an EMP weapon, or something else along those lines? Is there anything about explosives that they could be detonated at a decent range away from the vehicle through such means? Ever with computer targeting and whatnot, you still have to hit one moving object with another.
10 Apr 2006, 07:54 PM
Rumpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

I just don't see the effectiveness, maybe? You've still got a big chunk of missile going somewhere. Lucky days for ground support. Nice propaganda bit, thx fox!

What? It detonates the explosive end (THE BAD PART) of the RPG. What hits the tank would just be the end piece of the projectile (THE NOT SO BAD PART). It would then have all the destructive capicity of throwing a metal pipe against a tank (THAT WOULD BE NO DAMAGE).
10 Apr 2006, 08:20 PM
Mr-K

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

From the sound of things it's basically the same technology as missile defense systems on modern warships; a gun or projectile of some sort that tracks the incoming and then shoots the explosive to detonate it before impact. It's not like an Overshield for tanks, yet.

Those things are goddamn rad. I worked on a tour boat that drove pretty close to the naval yard and you can see them on the ship. Basically they are like super powerful chain guns, and they look like R2D2.
10 Apr 2006, 08:28 PM
maruchan

lol fox news uses this shit as propagand..lol
10 Apr 2006, 11:34 PM
Jetman

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

Let's see...two radars tracking high velocity projectiles fired at close range and a "top secret countermeasure" firing device. I don't see how this could possibly not work perfectly all the time under field conditions.

Because radar systems are a pain in the ass when it comes to upkeep and maintenance. Parts for it,especially "top secret force fields" would likely be hard to come by out in the 'field'.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shidoshi

Being that I know almost nothing about explosives, this could be a dumb question, but I'm going to ask anyhow. Could you use a non-projectile means to do the same thing, such as, say, a high frequency radio wave, an EMP weapon, or something else along those lines? Is there anything about explosives that they could be detonated at a decent range away from the vehicle through such means? Ever with computer targeting and whatnot, you still have to hit one moving object with another.

I dont think its too much past sci-fi to see this happening someday. Put it this way. A transmitting radar on the ground is like a super high powered microwave and can roast a living thing from the inside out. The radar on F111's was well know to be able to send backpulses/(OMG EMP) to effectively fry all electronics in an area (especially those trying to track it). I dont see it being impossible for a radio "freek" to set off explosive's at the right setting sometime in the future.

Radio frequencies aint no joke.
10 Apr 2006, 11:57 PM
YellerDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpy

What? It detonates the explosive end (THE BAD PART) of the RPG. What hits the tank would just be the end piece of the projectile (THE NOT SO BAD PART). It would then have all the destructive capicity of throwing a metal pipe against a tank (THAT WOULD BE NO DAMAGE).

In practical use, you'd be in an urban warfare scenario covered with 'soft targets', eh eh? You understand shrapnel, right? It didn't just whip out there and circumcize the damn thing, it blew it up.

It'd would stop the big boom, but between the fuel and the little jaggy metal death bits, you've still got some stuff to deal with.
11 Apr 2006, 12:00 AM
Revoltor

Getting whacked by an spent RPG shell would probably still hurt like a motherfucker.
11 Apr 2006, 12:09 AM
jonas

That's really great. Technology that makes killing people insanely harder is wonderful and welcome.

Personal force fields FTW! Stops bullets on contact.
11 Apr 2006, 12:32 AM
Fe 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetman

I dont think its too much past sci-fi to see this happening someday. Put it this way. A transmitting radar on the ground is like a super high powered microwave and can roast a living thing from the inside out. The radar on F111's was well know to be able to send backpulses/(OMG EMP) to effectively fry all electronics in an area (especially those trying to track it). I dont see it being impossible for a radio "freek" to set off explosive's at the right setting sometime in the future.

Radio frequencies aint no joke.

are you super shure about this? Modern U.S. military machines usely have shielding built into them to protect against EMPs. Or at least that is what they currently claim.
11 Apr 2006, 12:34 AM
YellerDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonas

That's really great. Technology that makes killing people insanely harder is wonderful and welcome.

Personal force fields FTW! Stops bullets on contact.

This is so utterly a Canadian posting this. :D
11 Apr 2006, 12:52 AM
Jetman

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronPlant

are you super shure about this? Modern U.S. military machines usely have shielding built into them to protect against EMPs. Or at least that is what they currently claim.

This is one of those things that I would love to go into detail but cant.Take my word for it. Counter measures is one of those things that guys who've had jobs like me can get fucked for talking about.
11 Apr 2006, 01:38 AM
Vasteel

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonas

Personal force fields FTW! Stops bullets on contact.

But you can't use those out in the desert, though, because that shit will attract a sandworm.
11 Apr 2006, 12:18 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetman

This is one of those things that I would love to go into detail but cant.Take my word for it. Counter measures is one of those things that guys who've had jobs like me can get fucked for talking about.

http://i8.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/17/2d/42_1_b.JPG

Seriously though, I doubt you've got anything that isn't out there for research.
11 Apr 2006, 02:21 PM
Drewbacca

None of this will matter when we're all assimilated.
11 Apr 2006, 03:20 PM
Cowdisease

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

None of this will matter when we're all assimilated.

. . . into mutated goo from all the nukes blowing up.
11 Apr 2006, 03:36 PM
Jetman

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

http://i8.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/17/2d/42_1_b.JPG

Seriously though, I doubt you've got anything that isn't out there for research.

you may be right ,man. I havent done any digging around to see what's out there. The fact of countermeasures themselves isnt unknown to the public just what the equipment is and how it works (which is pretty damn cool in its own right if you understand what you are reading).

that and OPSEC! I'm sure animegirl and Fighter-X have heard this term before.
11 Apr 2006, 05:45 PM
Rumpy

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

In practical use, you'd be in an urban warfare scenario covered with 'soft targets', eh eh? You understand shrapnel, right? It didn't just whip out there and circumcize the damn thing, it blew it up.

It'd would stop the big boom, but between the fuel and the little jaggy metal death bits, you've still got some stuff to deal with.

The idea is to protect the tank. It goes off a few yards from the tank, everyone is a-okay inside and roll on. People outside the tank: get the fuck out of the way, there is shit blowing up! It's worse if it's detonating on the tank.
11 Apr 2006, 06:37 PM
g0zen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetman

you may be right ,man. I havent done any digging around to see what's out there. The fact of countermeasures themselves isnt unknown to the public just what the equipment is and how it works (which is pretty damn cool in its own right if you understand what you are reading).

Well, the way it works is that the scientific community probably already has the theory and the operational schematic. However, the military has the full working mechanism and how it operates. So, while the tech itself is far from secret, how it's applied is.