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The Euro mag Computers and Video Games announced this new Gothic Horror title for the Nintendo Revolution.
The game will be set before the First World War and displayed in black and white. One controller will be used to hold a candle, the other to use items like rope for grappling or as a weapon. One weapon example given was a piece of glass used to slash at a attackers neck. The game is in early stages with only concept art available.
*-neo
Fuck, the Revolution sounds hot.
Who maketh this?
Nibris, whom I'm never heard of. *-neoQuote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
man the rev is starting off violently, whats next, mario in the mob? sounds interesting though, and the black and white thing will certianly give it a unique look.
haha a gothic title called 'sadness', lol lol.
I think there's room for one more lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakidski
But it sounds cool (name aside).
I'd love to see more games try the black and white thing.
Man, I think the Revolution already has more announced and/or planned games than the GameCube had its entire life.
I don't want a black and white game on next-gen hardware and on my new HDTV.
Make it an option or something.
The Revolution is scared of your HDTV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
Mario running Walmart.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
Revolution's two announced game sound better than 80% of the concepts being thrown around for PS3 and 360.
I'd be surprised if Sadness ended up being the final product's name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
So how would navigating around work if both controllers are used for something?Quote:
Originally Posted by neoalphazero
Yeah, and while they're at it, when they put all of those movies on HD-DVD or Blu-ray, add some color to them damnit! I'm not going to buy an HDTV to watch some old movies in black and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
Sounds interesting.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Same here. A monochromatic game could be very nice if they focus on the textures and avoid only doing it to show age, like that stupid time-traveling bishonen whatsit game Konami released on PS2 a while back.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
If you want a black and white game so bad just tweak the color setting on your set all the way down.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Because as we all know, black and white isn't an individual style but rather a simple absence of color.
James
Well, it's almost got more new IP's than the Gamecube had its entire life. Almost.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
DUHQuote:
Originally Posted by Nash
thats what the third controller is used for
dummy
Gamecube had new IPs? :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I like gothic-type settings and such, so this game sounds interesting at least.
Wrong. You don't move, the entire game takes place in one room and the enemies come to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFer
All I can really think of is Pikmin and Eternal Darkness. So right now the Rev and GC are tied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
And here Odama just came out this week. Add in Chibi Robo (which deserves a sequel) and we're up to four. The system is a powerhouse, I tell you.
James
Baten Kaitos, Giftpia, Billy Hatcher, somre more I'm sure, I'm super-tired.
[edit]: ah, monkey ball.
[edit2]: lotsa Capcom games I don't need to name.
Hmm, I was actually thinking of exclusive franchises, so Pikmin and Baten are the only ones mentioned that I'd count, though I'd throw in Metroid Prime since it's so different from the previous games in the series. Even strictly IP, I wouldn't count anything that's shown up on the PS2, and even ED was meant for the N64 originally. Sadness is a pretty appropriate topic to talk about the Gamecube under it seems. :p
I'm guessing they're american?Quote:
Originally Posted by neoalphazero
Simple. It's on rails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Black and white is fine if they stylize it like in Sin City.
Well I doubt you are always throwing ropes the entire game. The controller has a D-Pad on it that you could move with, while aiming/swinging with your own arm movements (or the trigger for attacking). Plus the nunchuck that has its own stick and button I believe, which could be used for movent/attacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
World's first on-rails survival horror game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
You've never been to Disneyland, have you?Quote:
Originally Posted by kuro
Black and white emphasizes lighting far better than color does, assuming things are designed around it (watching a color movie in B&W won't look the same as a movie shot with B&W in mind, assuming the cinematography for the B&W movie is worth a damn). For a gothic horror game it's a perfect design choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revoltor
But yeah, fuck interesting and effective aesthetics, I want every single thing I buy to show off my hardware.
I don't think so -Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Sax
http://www.nibris.net/ ... I guess they'll have some content up soon or something.
So am I reading the info right in that this game doesn't have a publisher yet?
I tracerouted the IP of the site, and it ends in Poland, so either the developer is based in Poland, or that's just the location of the server hosting their site....the company is definately European, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by dog$
I hope they can do the sound to this game justice. Silent Hill-type sound would add a lot of atmosphere to the black-and-white graphics. I wonder if this will be a launch title.
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Originally Posted by Ammadeau
If this thing is on rails I automatically pass on it.
Too bad, its on rails. Its been confirmed by seven sources. Or not, considering every ounce of info on the game is in the very first post and does not contain the word "rail" anywhere in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Looks like I guessed right. Do I get a prize?
Yes, you get your sarcasm detector fixed.
Woops, took another look Clash!'s post and realized that I missed the last sentance.
Anyways, they never said it wasn't on rails. I could still be right even if I don't want to be. A gothic-horror title on rails ala The Haunted Mansion would be.... interesting to say the least.
Why would this game be on rails? Couldn't the candle just be a light source like the flashlight in doom 3.
Cowutopia -
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Originally Posted by shidoshi
Man, I think the Revolution already has more announced and/or planned games than the GameCube had its entire life.
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Well, it's almost got more new IP's than the Gamecube had its entire life. Almost.
Uh no, I don't think so :rolleyes:
Take a look: :D
New IPs on Gamecube: (I’ve listed them here. If a game is new to the USA, I listed that too, since it’s new to us ;) I also listed a game if it ORIGINATED on Gamecube, even if it was later ported to a different system, since it's quite possible that IP would have never have existed (at least in the exact form we know it) without the Gamecube :-)
Animal Crossing (First time released in the USA – so its NEW to us :-)
Baten Kaitos
Battalion Wars
Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
Chibi-Robo
Cubivore
Custom Robo (First time released in the USA )
Donkey Konga
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (yes its named Final Fantasy, but it plays differently from all the rest ;) thus it’s a new IP)
Fire Emblem (First time released in the USA on a Console :)
Geist
Giftpia
Homeland (Online rpg)
Lost Kingdoms
Luigi’s Mansion
Mario Power Tennis
Mario Superstar Baseball
Metroid Prime [yes its still Metroid, however the style of the gameplay (from 2D side scrolling to First person full 3D) changed so radically, it feels like a different game]
Odama
P.N. 03
Pikmin
Super Mario Strikers
Super Monkey Ball (first console release for this series :) See above note)
Viewtiful Joe (Originated on Gamecube :) See above note)
Viewtiful Joe: Red Hot Rumble (different style of game)
Wario World
..
On topic:
I hope Revolution doesn't get TOO carried away with "Mature" themed games :doubt:
Bet you thought no one would ever say that :D
I wouldn't count any game that has mario or related characters as a new IP. Same with Metroid. Not new.
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Originally Posted by dhowerter
DOn't bother. Every 3rd game on the GC could have been a new IP and people would have still said "same old shit"
Okay, so for the entire lifespan of the Gamecube you came up with 27 games, 16 of which aren't actually new IPs. Excellent use of the rolleyes emoticon.Quote:
Originally Posted by dhowerter
while I like the GameCube, to supplement Strider's post:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...leyesbarf2.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by dhowerter
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Originally Posted by dhowerter
HAY GUYS LOOK WHAT I READ.
Ya rly. And if you go by that rule you could say RE4 = new IP because it's so different lol! No. So most of that list is BS, and the ones that aren't BS almost all suck. I'll give you Super Mario Strikers though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
And how can you even call the sequel to Mario Tennis a new IP?
This shit makes me sad. Sadness makes me happy though. I like artistically-driven games, and I've never played one made in black and white. The concept seems to make good use of the controller, and I'm one of the many surprised by just how many new things we're seeing on the Rev.
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Originally Posted by Andy
Smartasses.
STFU Giltch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giltch
Well, thats the thing. For me, if a game happens to have Mario in it but its GAMEPLAY is significantly different from say, a Mario PLATFORMER, like for example, Super Mario Strikers, I count it as a new IP.Quote:
I wouldn't count any game that has mario or related characters as a new IP. Same with Metroid. Not new.
Why?
If Super Mario Strikers has starred a completely new character (or set of characters) but with the EXACT same gameplay and it originated on GC, even you WOULD count it as a new IP.
So if Mario Strikers has EXACTLY the same gameplay with a new set of characters, it gets dubbed a new IP, but with mario and co it's not? o_O
It's gameplay that matters. For example, it would be ridicoulous to say Paper Mario and Mario 64 are the same IP. One is a turn based RPG, one is a 3D platformer.
In short, different gameplay = different IP :)
Cowutopia -
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No. So most of that list is BS, and the ones that aren't BS almost all suck. I'll give you Super Mario Strikers though.
Firstly, I was not saying ANYTHING about whether the games I listed were good or not. Thats a matter of personal opinion. I'm sure I greatly dislike some games you love ;)
I was simply pointing out to those who thought Gamecube hasd very few new IPs, that it , in fact, does have several new IPs.
Well, then I guess we personally disagree on what is a new IP -_-
Ah well .. :)
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Originally Posted by dhowerter
You need to look up what an IP is.
What the hell is "IP"?
Intellectual property. In gaming, it usually refers to a setting and group of characters and imagery that constitute a franchise, but it can also be used in a more technical sense to refer to any copyrightable material that has no physical existence but is unique to its rights holder.
In this instance, if I make a game about soccer, Nintendo can't sue me. If I rip off their play mechanics, Nintendo can't sue me. If I make a game about Mario, Nintendo can sue the pants off me. Mario is really the IP here, unless you want to include the Mario Strikers logo and artwork, by which definition every game is a 'new' IP. Even Madden has a unique copyright every year.
Isn't Mario Strikers based off of Soccer Slam anyway? Wasn't that an IP that originated on GC?
ironplant, he posts here sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
This forum just isn't the same without the batshit insane Nintendo fanboys that'll argue anything completely trivial just because it's about Nintendo. It's going to be awesome here around Revolution launch time.
I do find it funny that talks of the game being on-rails has been derailed. Okay, bad joke.
If they patent an in-game mechanic you rip from their game they can still sue you.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I can't stand rail shooters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
Name a single instance where this has happened. They can only sue if they can prove you stole the actual code, not because you gave your guy the ability to pick up a flower and shoot fireballs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
No... game mechanics can be patented.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,935,954
Okay, and Call of Cthulu does almost the exact same thing without Bethesda getting sued. Unless that patent is ripped off note for note, I don't see how that patent ever holds up, given that the history of gaming is one of derivation and building on the backs of the mechanics of others. I can't think of a single succesful lawsuit ever launched over game mechanics.
Nintendo just recently patented something called the Insanity System, which is how the game changes based around a game players sanity (monsters getting scarier, effects changing, etc.) I can't remember any company openly suing someone for crossing these lines, but I don't doubt it's happened.
edit: diffusionx's link is to the exact patent I'm talking about.
Just because they don't doesn't mean they can't, and who knows if Betheseda didn't pay Nintendo some cash for the rights to use it. And if they didnt then Im sure they had their lawyers looking at it for weeks and telling the developers how they can design their insanity system without getting in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
I didnt even know that was possible. crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Nintendo must have been really proud of that Insanity thing.Maybe Bethesda payed some kind of royalty to Nintendo to use that similar feature in their game?
I think Nintendo owns a lot of the gameplay RPG elements found in Paper Mario 2 as well. They did a really good job with the battle system in that game (reminds me of Fight Night where they include a lot of mini-games to help keep a challenge to doing monotonous things) and nobody since has stolen the ideas and implemented them in to a more mature environment.
It sucks but that's the world of business I guess.
Sony patented Mark of Kri's battle system. Just saying.
The thing is that you can't patent insanity. You can't patent hallucinations. Like I said, I believe the only way they could succesfully launch a suit is if you could prove they stole the system condition for condition, and I believe (one of TNL's lawyers can feel free to correct me here) that precedent says that involves proving they've co-opted the actual code or logic tree involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
They also never said it wouldn't jump out of the console and sodomize you. Beware!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Saxophone
You clearly can.Quote:
The thing is that you can't patent insanity.
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...S=PN/6,935,954
And gameplay element "infringment" has never been successfully prosecuted in US courts AFAIK. So I wouldn't be too concerned.