Christians fight for their right to be intolerant of others

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

There is no conflict of interest, though.

You teach evolution as a science, clearly as a science, in a science classroom.

You teach whatever the fuck religious thing in survey of religion and sociology classes when necessary. Creationism, Xenu, whatever creation myths you like.

The two dont belong together, in any way, especially in this sort of context:

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But evolution belongs with them because it's about where we came from, and it's about exposing kids to each different belief (scientifically proven or belief). It's not getting in to the science of how a limb was a finn or whatnot, but exploring ideas of where we came from in general.

I've taken a class like it in high school and it was a very good class because people are so split down the middle on it most of the time.

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Again you misuse the word theory, btw.

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Belief then, whatever. You know what I'm talking about.

Was the class called "World Religions"?

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I understand your reluctance to understand a simple point like that.

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You're clearly backpedalling. You just made the blanket statement of 'taught alongside evolution' knowing what that clearly entails. However, once shown how ridiculous that was you backpedalled to say "No, no, not in science class in a 'social english class'" which is ridiculous.

Look, I realize that you're feeling foolish now that you've been shown how idiotic your original position was. It's okay, you can admit you're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Was the class called "World Religions"?

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If it's anything like World Heroes, then it probably sucked.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

But evolution belongs with them because it's about where we came from, and it's about exposing kids to each different belief (scientifically proven or belief). It's not getting in to the science of how a limb was a finn or whatnot, but exploring ideas of where we came from in general.

I've taken a class like it in high school and it was a very good class because people are so split down the middle on it most of the time.

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I took a class on history of religion in college.

Evolution was not taught there. Because evolution doesn't belong there. It is firm, good science. Its not a belief. I took an intro to biology class that was almost all about evolution. The book of Genesis was not taught there. Now, putting evolution next to Christian Creationism or Scientology Xenu just muddles the issue and makes people think everything is on equal footing. Its not. This may be a hard wake-up call for people who believed their whole life that Genesis was fact but tough shit.

There should be no "teach the controversey" because the controversey is bullshit perpetuated by idiotic Christians that dont know better or, more likely, dont WANT to know better (all the scientific evidence for evolution is out in the open). I see them call it "Darwinism"... pure madness.

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Originally Posted by Chaoofnee

Through questioning lies true faith.

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Yea, thats true.

Time paradox!

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

...Anyway if you want to teach your kids dumb shit send them to a private Christian school.

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Actually, I just remembered something about this.
I had 14 years of Catholic education.
14
Fucking
Years
Now, not only did this screw up certain academic development on my part that I won't get into, but I was not taught Creationism at any point in my education. In fact, the theology classes I had in high school taught me to question and interperet the Bible moreso than take it all as fact (fuck, ask TrialSword. he went through it all, too). Through questioning lies true faith.
Bitches.

But, yeah, not once. No debates or anything.
Fucking bible belt. Stop making me look crazy!

neat.....

Edit the lol to the Cowtopia post.

^ LOL!

Look I don't want to turn this into this versus that. I apologize. I stand by what I think and you do the same. Lets just get back on topic and realize that whatever the state laws are ... thats what they are. Since Georgia Tech is state run ... she can bark at the moon, she's not going to win.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Was the class called "World Religions"?

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No..

Ugh... I recall in my science class freshmen year they had a five minute section on creationism. I pretty much tuned it out, because at that point I'd already made my mind up about what I believe.

I think at that point, everyone already has their set beliefs, with a few individual exceptions. No one is going to just be like "oh man I was raised christian/buddist/pagan/atheist/scientology/whatever, but this evolution stuff.. holy crap!" *change mind* No, you have already decided, according to your chosen lifestyle etc, what you believe. Its part of becoming an individual.

So no, I dont think there's much point bring religion (and only one religion at that) into a science class. Two very unrelated topics. I mean lets bring in all creation myths. The vikings have a good one. Something about a slaughtered giant, and the first man and woman coming out of his left and right armpit. The maggots were trolls.. or dwarfs?