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23 Jun 2006, 07:44 AM
Korly

I have the RAW magazine that that photo originally appeared in.

I firggin' loved Pillman. I hope they show the Austin stalking Pillman RAW complete and uncut on the DVD. (If not, I always have the VHS, but it does have USA censorship).
23 Jun 2006, 09:13 AM
avatar

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Originally Posted by Coast to Coast

Sandman is always the sandman - but Vince doesn't want Extreme....

It's just a fucking song. Their is no logical reason why Vince should pay 12-13 mil. for one fucking song.

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If that was the ECW Arena, with Hat Guy - and other loyal ECW fans there.... Cena would have been kicked out by the fans before he even stepped foot into the Arena. Real ECW fans are more than pissed at this point due to the shit Vince calls ECW.

I can't wait for ECW to return home and the crowd will make it ECW - ECW fans are the most vocal wrestling fans or fans of any sport in the world.

How many wrestlers alive would get that response. ECW fans are convincing Vince to connect Cena with ECW becuase those 2 together mean heat.

This is a prime example of hardcore fans shooting themselves in the foot.Woud Rey fighting ECW have gotten as big as a reaction. No. Vince smells the money and ECW smarks will pay to see Cena "humbled"
23 Jun 2006, 09:41 AM
Advocate

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Originally Posted by avatar

It's just a fucking song. Their is no logical reason why Vince should pay 12-13 mil. for one fucking song.

Agree there. It is a song, but it is nostalgia. If you wanna blame someone you should blame Metallica for charging that much. At least with that report you can see WWE trying to get the old school ECW vibe.

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Originally Posted by Avatar

How many wrestlers alive would get that response. ECW fans are convincing Vince to connect Cena with ECW because those 2 together mean heat.

This is a prime example of hardcore fans shooting themselves in the foot.Woud Rey fighting ECW have gotten as big as a reaction. No. Vince smells the money and ECW smarks will pay to see Cena "humbled"

I agree with that too. Yes. Alot of Hardcore Fans hate Cena, but when you boo and get louder at ECW. Your telling Vince and NBC that he should be the main heel guy in ECW. Thereby continuing this WWE/ECW fued. Which is being reported in Wrestleview.com.

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The feeling right now with those involved with the product is that they can't rely on the older ECW stars and instead need to blend the familiar stars with newer talent. It is no secret that one of the major things discussed when the brand was given the green light to return was that new talent not yet called up to RAW and SmackDown would be given a chance to get a push on TV with the new ECW brand. It should also be noted that NBC Universal would like to see angles on Monday Night RAW build for ECW on Tuesday on Sci Fi. So, for those expecting bigger WWE names to go away and no longer appear on ECW programming after the Vengeance PPV won't be seeing that happen as completely separate brands with no cross-promotion isn't in the plans.

See they want to build up the feud between the two. Since the hardcore fans are booing the WWE stars, your just telling them that its working and each week you'll tune in. When the Smarks stopped watching Raw for those few months, WWE programming took the hint, changed, and went in a differant direction. WWE took the hint when there was an enormous backlash at ECW programming when it debutted. That's what has to happen for this stupid WWE/ECW thing to stop.
23 Jun 2006, 10:31 AM
Dolemite

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Wow, John Cena's so bad ass. He stood up to the entire ECW locker room. And the crowd POPPED for him! Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by avatar

WHy wouldn't they. His extremely popular(positively or negatively) and he "invaded" ECW. If Cena got no response from that segment that would be a huge problem.

Okay...can anyone OTHER than avatar tell me what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Coast to Coast

If that was the ECW Arena, with Hat Guy - and other loyal ECW fans there.... Cena would have been kicked out by the fans before he even stepped foot into the Arena. Real ECW fans are more than pissed at this point due to the shit Vince calls ECW.

I can't wait for ECW to return home and the crowd will make it ECW - ECW fans are the most vocal wrestling fans or fans of any sport in the world.

Thank you.

As I've said, the overall noob quality here has improved as of late.
23 Jun 2006, 10:36 AM
Advocate

I said this back on page 374.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

And the crowd POPPED for him! Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that?

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Originally Posted by Advocate

Thats my problem with the audiance. I liked the dimming lights like everyone else, but the crowd is like 1/3 ECW ... the rest WWE fanboys/girls. If they restricted the audiance age to noone under 18. Put it on later so the PRO-Cena fans have to be in bed. THEN you would get a real ECW, in a big venue. Other than that we will have to deal with Pro-Cena cheers till (hopefully) after Vengance.
23 Jun 2006, 10:41 AM
Dolemite

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Originally Posted by Advocate

Agree there. It is a song, but it is nostalgia. If you wanna blame someone you should blame Metallica for charging that much. At least with that report you can see WWE trying to get the old school ECW vibe.

No, I want to thank Metallica for being greedy bitches and charging so much that WWE couldn't afford the song. The only reason Sandman ever got over was because of his entrance and the crowd totally getting into it and singing along. Take away Enter Sandman and you're left with one of the worst wrestlers on the planet who can't even do a decent Russian Leg Sweep, and the fucking thing is his finisher.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

I said this back on page 374.

Oh, right. Good man, Advocate.
23 Jun 2006, 10:49 AM
Advocate

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Other than that we will have to deal with Pro-Cena cheers till (hopefully) after Vengance.

Well after my recent report that won't be happening anytime soon. But Dole the reason is they are holding ECW in a WWE arena. If it was anywhere else it would have been heat. But then again thats what they want. They want to get Cena over whether its heat or pops.
23 Jun 2006, 10:52 AM
Dolemite

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Originally Posted by Advocate

But Dole the reason is they are holding ECW in a WWE arena. If it was anywhere else it would have been heat.

I understand that- that's been my point all along.

If it was a real ECW crowd Cena'd be booed out of the building.
23 Jun 2006, 10:53 AM
Advocate

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

No, I want to thank Metallica for being greedy bitches and charging so much that WWE couldn't afford the song. The only reason Sandman ever got over was because of his entrance and the crowd totally getting into it and singing along. Take away Enter Sandman and you're left with one of the worst wrestlers on the planet who can't even do a decent Russian Leg Sweep, and the fucking thing is his finisher.

But he is a cool guy; I know that doesn't excuse his lack of wrestling skill. I saw pics of him at Pitbull 1's wedding. Nice guy and a hot wife. BTW ... Wolfe is a funny guy. Ashame Pitbull 2 was a prick.
23 Jun 2006, 06:51 PM
Jeremy

WO site notes -

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--Dwayne Johnson got out of surgery a couple of hours ago, having his Achilles tendon reattached. He was told he can start training immediately (obviously limited to upper body).

--In this week's silly name change, the ECW wrestlers are no longer wrestlers, nor are they rebels. They are now Extremists. Are they right wing or left wing extremists. I mean, Paul Heyman is left wing, but not necessarily extremist. But Sandman, the only party affiliation he'd probably have is the next one thrown after the show.

Note from me on the F4W boards -

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Nash needs to come out on a Segway, with a sidecar for Shelley.

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